She probably had it coming. For one, why the hell would you spend $25,000 on an engagement ring? I mean, yeah, that is the couple's prerogative; if it makes them feel more special, then sure, why not. But in addition, I bet those diamonds were blood diamonds, i.e from Africa or some other third world country in which the people mining these diamonds are subjected to harsh treatment....so I have not one ounce of sympathy for her.
I bet if it was your sister, mother, daughter who was robbed at knife point you would be out for blood. But because you are jealous of the cost of her ring you think she "had it coming." How pathetic are you?
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A.V.J.S. --"Don't confuse kindness with weakness."
It is interesting that you have such a political perspective on the armed robbery committed against this young woman. I wonder what your feelings would be if you were deprived of your property in a similar fashion. Without knowing anything about your circumstances I suspect an equally frivolous case could be made by your choice of possessions. Just because someone might not think your purchases were practical doesn’t mean that you “probably had it coming”.
You people are disgusting. Who cares if her ring was 25,000, it was still stolen away from her at knifepoint! So you're only sympathetic if it's a 25,000 car? What's your cut-off for sympathy, $1K, 2K 5K, 7500?? Why does it matter HOW much her ring cost? Maybe it's a family heirloom which is why it's so expensive. You guys are sick.
No one in their right mind spends $25,000 on a darn engagement ring? Its just an engagement. They may not ever make it to the altar, and then what. ?? If its a family heirloom, it should have been kept locked away in a safe place. I'm sorry she got jacked for her ring.. but.. dumb is dumb.
Wow, the comments some of you are making are unbelievable!! This woman had every right in the world to wear the ring she was wearing...and by doing so, she wasn't asking to be a victim; she was exercising her free rights. It's like insinuating that someone who dresses sexy is asking to be raped (spares the raper of any responsibility). The ignorance (and downright jealousy) that some of you exhibit is mind boggling. I hope folks are as sympathetic to you when you're down and out as you are to this lady. Her biggest mistake is living/shopping in Antioch, which is being infested with rodents who want to steal and threaten innocent victims in order to make a living.
This is still a free country, and people still have ownership rights to their property. Wearing jewelry which you own does not entitle someone else to rob you of it -- end of story. The one thing we have to hope is that Three Strikes is still in effect, if not, it should be, and that it will begin to kick in on some of Antioch's denizens. It's time -- it's past time. I don't care if it's burglary of residential areas, car theft, Ipods, or engagement rings. . . .and if you're using a weapon in the commission of any of these crimes, don't be surprised to find that all that hype about getting a slap on the wrist and being let go was just a crock all along.
Yes she has the right to wear the ring, and no it is not asking someone to steal it. But somewhere common sense has to kick in and you say to yourself, "gee street robberies have been going up in Antioch, and Macy's is not in the nicest part of town maybe I shouldn't wear this really nice eye catching ring around there".
Why would you be walking around the Macy's loading docks with something of value like that on you. Personally, if i had a 4 carat diamond ring, I would definitely be cautious of where I wore it. People need to be smart and realize that places aren't safe anymore, and take care of themselves and their possessions. It is sad that she was robbed of her expensive ring, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like she was being smart about it. Number one reason not to have something of that much value on you - someone bad is bound to notice and steal it, possibly causing you harm. Would any of you carry $25k in plain sight? I didn't think so.
i Want to know what proof there is that she really had a $25,000 engagement ring stolen.
a 4carat diamond ring is not a common thing to see in Antioch or any where else in the Bay Area.
Where's the proof it really happened the way she said it did
Your attacking the victim? There is no reason to doubt what she says until proven otherwise. The store she bought it from should be able to prove it's value. Good God man, where is your priorities? You didn't even mention the attacker. What if he finds you the next time. Are you going to be a little more concerned then?
Am I attacking the victim ? not at all. Just asking a logical question. The article did not say that there were any witnesses to the crime. I would hope that this was a true crime and not a hoax to get money. I have been in the situation where I was a victim and the question I asked was also asked of me by the police. Yes, it was uncomfortable, even angered me to have my honesty questioned. But, in todays world, there are more then just a few who would try and pull a quick scam to get money
Sorry, your still getting the cart before the horse, my first reaction is concern for the victim and anger at the thief. Your approach of first: she must first prove she is a victim doesn't hold water. It's against the law to file a false police report. There are penalties. The victim knows she has to prove she is in possession of an expensive ring which is a very simple thing to do. I see by many of the posts here, that cynicism is alive and well. That’s too bad. We'll have to see how this develops. In the meantime, my sympathies to the victim.
While it is certainly possible for a 22 year old woman to possess a $25,000 ring, it seems unlikely. I would like hear more information about this incident. Nevertheless, there is sadness here: If this is a legitimate crime, it is another to add to the increasing criminality in East County; if it is a hoax, it is indication of how easy it is to believe because we know that it IS possible.
What reason would she have to lie? Insurance...dosen't make sense. Most home owners insurance would not cover a $25,000 ring unless there was a rider attached to the policy. I am sure that before any such policy was issued and before any policy payment was made proof of the ring and it's value would have to be verified.
Also don't tell me that all of you ladies out there would not wear a ring like that to bed, in the shower, or to the mall if you had it. Guys it would be the same if you had a Rolex watch. It seems that people keep trying to read more into these stories than there is. Sometimes what you see is what you get.
Walking toward the docks? Why? I would've thought she'd be walking toward her car. Anyways, though some of the posts on here are harsh, I have to agree. Anyone who's aware of the crime news in Antioch probably wouldn't walk around alone flashing that kind of bling, I'm sorry. Especially women, who are more vulnerable to forcible assaults. I wonder how aware this girl was of her surroundings, and whether the thief had been watching her previously, or if he just happened to spot her and her pretty ring from afar that day.
I doubt this happened. She probably lost the ring when she took it off to wash her hands in the restroom and then left. by the time she remembered the ring she went bsck and the ring was gone. OR maybe OJ simpson took it!
The "fiancee" probably bought her the ring with the last bit of equity he had left on his east county house. Now, he's behind on his mortgage, the home is upside down and he's about to foreclose. The logical solution out of this mess is to file a false police report in hopes to get some $$ from the insurance company (and some sympathy at the same time).
Like the above person said, she would only get $2,500 (that is what most HO policies cover without an endorsement) for the ring if she claimed it. If she had no rider, she'd have a better chance on capitalizing on the siutation if it seemed more "typical" ie; a $3,600 ring. The thing is, insurance companies know fraud.... they're going to ask- why didn't you tell us about this ring? This seems fishy... but who knows, we're all guessing here right?
I agree, this seems like a fishy situation... if i had a $25,000 ring i would not be walking near the lloading docks.... I would be getting into my new BMW or Mercedes... this seems like some kind of insuranse fraud to me. time are hard, everyone needs more money.
It saddens me to see those of you who are criticizing this woman for wearing this ring. Who are you to dictate when and where she shoudl wear her ring and where she should be walking. You are all making a lot of assumptions. What if it were you who got robbed of your Nice Watch or your Platinum wedding Band. Also it is their perogative to spend whatever they choose on a ring. He if she has it like that to have a man spend that much on her than more power to her. Do not hate on her cause she is wearing a ring that cost more than yours. You should instead empathize with her, seeing that this ring may have meant the world to her, and not just just the material aspect of it, but what it represents. I would expect people to be more sympathetic to her situation and not make light of it. I can even imagine how scared she must have been to be robbed.
I'm not sure if you all saw it, but there was a similar story to this about a stolen expensive ring at Sunvalley Mall that turned out to be a hoax. The woman that filed the false police report is now facing criminal charges. I guess we will all have to wait and see what happens.
or the kid who filed the false report at sun Valley mall a few months ago saying (again ) some blacks guys stole her cell phone as as (she was 12) standing next to her car.
Unfortunately we live in a world in which everything must be questioned. I am as open to the idea that this actually happened the way this young woman said as I am to the idea that it didn't happen at all.
Posters are absolutely right to say that people need to be more cautious of their surroundings. You can keep your head in the clouds if you want to, but you are only making yourself more susceptible to being a victim.
I have an ipod that I purchased awhile back (not of much value- maybe $150). Occassionally I even listen to it in the car. Regardless if I am in a nice part of town or a bad part of town one thing never changes once I get out of the car; I never leave it. I paid for it as well as the car. I should have the right to do whatever i want with the device; to include leaving it in the car in plain sight, but that is just not safe or smart anymore. I would rather be SAFE than sorry.
This is how I look after my cheap little ipod. If my boyfriend happened to buy me a 25k dollar ring, I am sure I would be cautious as well.
Posted on Tue, 04/22/2008 - 12:12 — by JustMyOpinion
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22years old.. $25,000 ring. " WHO "is she marrying?
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She probably had it coming. For one, why the hell would you spend $25,000 on an engagement ring? I mean, yeah, that is the couple's prerogative; if it makes them feel more special, then sure, why not. But in addition, I bet those diamonds were blood diamonds, i.e from Africa or some other third world country in which the people mining these diamonds are subjected to harsh treatment....so I have not one ounce of sympathy for her.
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I bet if it was your sister, mother, daughter who was robbed at knife point you would be out for blood. But because you are jealous of the cost of her ring you think she "had it coming." How pathetic are you? ___________________________________________________________ A.V.J.S. --"Don't confuse kindness with weakness."
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It is interesting that you have such a political perspective on the armed robbery committed against this young woman. I wonder what your feelings would be if you were deprived of your property in a similar fashion. Without knowing anything about your circumstances I suspect an equally frivolous case could be made by your choice of possessions. Just because someone might not think your purchases were practical doesn’t mean that you “probably had it coming”.
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i hope it was insured!
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You people are disgusting. Who cares if her ring was 25,000, it was still stolen away from her at knifepoint! So you're only sympathetic if it's a 25,000 car? What's your cut-off for sympathy, $1K, 2K 5K, 7500?? Why does it matter HOW much her ring cost? Maybe it's a family heirloom which is why it's so expensive. You guys are sick.
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No one in their right mind spends $25,000 on a darn engagement ring? Its just an engagement. They may not ever make it to the altar, and then what. ?? If its a family heirloom, it should have been kept locked away in a safe place. I'm sorry she got jacked for her ring.. but.. dumb is dumb.
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Wow, the comments some of you are making are unbelievable!! This woman had every right in the world to wear the ring she was wearing...and by doing so, she wasn't asking to be a victim; she was exercising her free rights. It's like insinuating that someone who dresses sexy is asking to be raped (spares the raper of any responsibility). The ignorance (and downright jealousy) that some of you exhibit is mind boggling. I hope folks are as sympathetic to you when you're down and out as you are to this lady. Her biggest mistake is living/shopping in Antioch, which is being infested with rodents who want to steal and threaten innocent victims in order to make a living.
Joined: Dec 2007
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This is still a free country, and people still have ownership rights to their property. Wearing jewelry which you own does not entitle someone else to rob you of it -- end of story. The one thing we have to hope is that Three Strikes is still in effect, if not, it should be, and that it will begin to kick in on some of Antioch's denizens. It's time -- it's past time. I don't care if it's burglary of residential areas, car theft, Ipods, or engagement rings. . . .and if you're using a weapon in the commission of any of these crimes, don't be surprised to find that all that hype about getting a slap on the wrist and being let go was just a crock all along.
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Yes she has the right to wear the ring, and no it is not asking someone to steal it. But somewhere common sense has to kick in and you say to yourself, "gee street robberies have been going up in Antioch, and Macy's is not in the nicest part of town maybe I shouldn't wear this really nice eye catching ring around there".
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Why would you be walking around the Macy's loading docks with something of value like that on you. Personally, if i had a 4 carat diamond ring, I would definitely be cautious of where I wore it. People need to be smart and realize that places aren't safe anymore, and take care of themselves and their possessions. It is sad that she was robbed of her expensive ring, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like she was being smart about it. Number one reason not to have something of that much value on you - someone bad is bound to notice and steal it, possibly causing you harm. Would any of you carry $25k in plain sight? I didn't think so.
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i Want to know what proof there is that she really had a $25,000 engagement ring stolen. a 4carat diamond ring is not a common thing to see in Antioch or any where else in the Bay Area. Where's the proof it really happened the way she said it did
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Your attacking the victim? There is no reason to doubt what she says until proven otherwise. The store she bought it from should be able to prove it's value. Good God man, where is your priorities? You didn't even mention the attacker. What if he finds you the next time. Are you going to be a little more concerned then?
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Am I attacking the victim ? not at all. Just asking a logical question. The article did not say that there were any witnesses to the crime. I would hope that this was a true crime and not a hoax to get money. I have been in the situation where I was a victim and the question I asked was also asked of me by the police. Yes, it was uncomfortable, even angered me to have my honesty questioned. But, in todays world, there are more then just a few who would try and pull a quick scam to get money
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Sorry, your still getting the cart before the horse, my first reaction is concern for the victim and anger at the thief. Your approach of first: she must first prove she is a victim doesn't hold water. It's against the law to file a false police report. There are penalties. The victim knows she has to prove she is in possession of an expensive ring which is a very simple thing to do. I see by many of the posts here, that cynicism is alive and well. That’s too bad. We'll have to see how this develops. In the meantime, my sympathies to the victim.
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7
While it is certainly possible for a 22 year old woman to possess a $25,000 ring, it seems unlikely. I would like hear more information about this incident. Nevertheless, there is sadness here: If this is a legitimate crime, it is another to add to the increasing criminality in East County; if it is a hoax, it is indication of how easy it is to believe because we know that it IS possible.
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What reason would she have to lie? Insurance...dosen't make sense. Most home owners insurance would not cover a $25,000 ring unless there was a rider attached to the policy. I am sure that before any such policy was issued and before any policy payment was made proof of the ring and it's value would have to be verified.
Also don't tell me that all of you ladies out there would not wear a ring like that to bed, in the shower, or to the mall if you had it. Guys it would be the same if you had a Rolex watch. It seems that people keep trying to read more into these stories than there is. Sometimes what you see is what you get.
That's just my opinion, but I could be Wrong.
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When you hear hoof beats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not zebras! I agree. ;-)
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Walking toward the docks? Why? I would've thought she'd be walking toward her car. Anyways, though some of the posts on here are harsh, I have to agree. Anyone who's aware of the crime news in Antioch probably wouldn't walk around alone flashing that kind of bling, I'm sorry. Especially women, who are more vulnerable to forcible assaults. I wonder how aware this girl was of her surroundings, and whether the thief had been watching her previously, or if he just happened to spot her and her pretty ring from afar that day.
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I doubt this happened. She probably lost the ring when she took it off to wash her hands in the restroom and then left. by the time she remembered the ring she went bsck and the ring was gone. OR maybe OJ simpson took it!
Joined: Mar 2006
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The "fiancee" probably bought her the ring with the last bit of equity he had left on his east county house. Now, he's behind on his mortgage, the home is upside down and he's about to foreclose. The logical solution out of this mess is to file a false police report in hopes to get some $$ from the insurance company (and some sympathy at the same time).
Joined: Jan 2008
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Like the above person said, she would only get $2,500 (that is what most HO policies cover without an endorsement) for the ring if she claimed it. If she had no rider, she'd have a better chance on capitalizing on the siutation if it seemed more "typical" ie; a $3,600 ring. The thing is, insurance companies know fraud.... they're going to ask- why didn't you tell us about this ring? This seems fishy... but who knows, we're all guessing here right?
Joined: Oct 2007
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I agree, this seems like a fishy situation... if i had a $25,000 ring i would not be walking near the lloading docks.... I would be getting into my new BMW or Mercedes... this seems like some kind of insuranse fraud to me. time are hard, everyone needs more money.
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 49
It saddens me to see those of you who are criticizing this woman for wearing this ring. Who are you to dictate when and where she shoudl wear her ring and where she should be walking. You are all making a lot of assumptions. What if it were you who got robbed of your Nice Watch or your Platinum wedding Band. Also it is their perogative to spend whatever they choose on a ring. He if she has it like that to have a man spend that much on her than more power to her. Do not hate on her cause she is wearing a ring that cost more than yours. You should instead empathize with her, seeing that this ring may have meant the world to her, and not just just the material aspect of it, but what it represents. I would expect people to be more sympathetic to her situation and not make light of it. I can even imagine how scared she must have been to be robbed.
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I'm not sure if you all saw it, but there was a similar story to this about a stolen expensive ring at Sunvalley Mall that turned out to be a hoax. The woman that filed the false police report is now facing criminal charges. I guess we will all have to wait and see what happens.
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or the kid who filed the false report at sun Valley mall a few months ago saying (again ) some blacks guys stole her cell phone as as (she was 12) standing next to her car.
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No one really knows what happened.
Unfortunately we live in a world in which everything must be questioned. I am as open to the idea that this actually happened the way this young woman said as I am to the idea that it didn't happen at all.
Posters are absolutely right to say that people need to be more cautious of their surroundings. You can keep your head in the clouds if you want to, but you are only making yourself more susceptible to being a victim.
I have an ipod that I purchased awhile back (not of much value- maybe $150). Occassionally I even listen to it in the car. Regardless if I am in a nice part of town or a bad part of town one thing never changes once I get out of the car; I never leave it. I paid for it as well as the car. I should have the right to do whatever i want with the device; to include leaving it in the car in plain sight, but that is just not safe or smart anymore. I would rather be SAFE than sorry.
This is how I look after my cheap little ipod. If my boyfriend happened to buy me a 25k dollar ring, I am sure I would be cautious as well.