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8th consecutive FLOP for 'peace now' /anti-military/ hate America Movies...


Posted on Mon, 04/28/2008 - 20:39 — by backrow
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from the NY Post critic Kyle Smith: “Stop-Loss” Bleeds Red Ink By kyle | April 28, 2008 "Despite massive critical praise, the deeply silly anti-war movie “Stop-Loss,” which portrays soldiers returning from Iraq as a bunch of depressed psychopaths in keeping with liberal orthodoxy, has officially tanked, heading for a final gross of $11 million, which for a wide release is pretty much the bare minimum. The film is said to have had a $25 million budget (which probably means $35 million) but, having spent that money, Paramount made the bizarre gamble to double down on it, massively promoting it as some sort of youthquake flick for teens. They must have spent easily another $30 million on that promotional campaign. That means $55 million (or so) is out the door and $6 million in receipts have come in (since the studio banks about half of the box office gross.) The film is virtually worthless in overseas markets, so that’ll be about it. Who will be the next studio to burn $50 million trying to sell anti-war movies to a supposedly bitterly anti-war public? "
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Mon, 04/28/2008 - 20:52 — Just look at it this way.
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Just look at it this way. If Holy-wood keeps turning out mediocre to lame movies as it has been doing for some time, and given the pathetically poor box office receipts of these anti war anti military un patriotic hit pieces, it will eventually go bankrupt. They are already morally and ethically bankrupt, but I'm talking no more moolah. I guess the holier than thou "falling" stars are going to have to take a pay cut. They get paid way too much for lousy acting anyway.
Tue, 05/20/2008 - 14:47 — Warhater's blood libel
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You probably already know this, but David White(warhater in the new format) has expressed extremist and anti-semitic views. you may want to check out his last piece of blood libel on his thread on Israel > According to him... Jews are not a race, just a religion and of course not the right religion Jews do not have a heritage that stems from the Middle East, they made it up just to claim a state their Jews Instigated the Holocaust and killed 6 million of their own, just to make the world feel sorry for them. I think everyone needs to know who this person is, and respond in kind to him.
Sun, 05/11/2008 - 23:33 — war movies
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You don’t seem to get it. Anti war movies are not designed to make money they are created to counter the war mentality that allows leaders to take a country into an elective war of which Vietnam was included and now Iraq. I’m not sure that pro war movies are a box office hit either. Blackhawk Down comes to mind. The biggest sales in anti war movies come in the form of leftwing listener sponsored radio offering the DVD’ as a gift in fund raising drives to the anti war listeners. I don’t think that Americans are any longer interested in war enough to keep it going one way or the other. The only thing Americans worry about is the cost of gas and other expenses like housing and food. Everyone agrees that the war should end but could care less as to when and how. They have been beaten to death with lies from the Pentagon and the pundits and Generals explaining this and that without ever touching on the illegality of a willfully launch war based on blatantly lying words of trusted leaders such a Colin Powell who after presenting an inglorious case for war ducked out the side door when the bombs started falling on Baghdad in order to dodge the bullet of world criticism on a public forum.
Sat, 05/24/2008 - 11:40 — Oh here goes Lies.....(Bush?) Nah....
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Sun, 05/25/2008 - 10:04 — Interesting link. Thank
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Interesting link. Thank you. It has been very frustrating supporting Democrats who do not stand up for what they claim they believe and, in fact, meekly surrender every key point to the President. Granted, making funding for the war (or torture, or relaxed rules regarding domestic spying, or targeting Democratic officeholders through the Justice Department) major issues that tie up all other legislation gives the impression of being counterproductive ... but no other legislation is making it through the Republican machine, either, so I wondered why someone didn't just say ... "Oh, so you want to continue funding this war on our credit card, do you? And you're going to fillibuster this bill if we try to stop the President from doing so? OKAY ... fillibuster away and tell your constituents why you support this!" So, at least according to one self-professed do-nothing Democrat, it was all a set-up just to get elected. Well, I for one think there is a lot of credence in that claim. My only other comment on the article, though, is that they got an awful lot of traction from a single paragraph quote. Rather than analysis of just a few words (over and over), other evidence or other statements might have been more conclusive. I find it hard to draw a broad and universal conclusion based upon a single paragraph of rather bland and overgeneralized "evidence". There isn't very much conclusive or specific in the Congressman's complaint, is there?
Mon, 05/26/2008 - 12:15 — HOLD UP.
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The link wasn't just for YOU. And you misread it evidently. The significant part is he said Dems LIED...and played the public. Did that include YOU?
Wed, 05/28/2008 - 07:31 — Why in the world would you
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Why in the world would you take offense when I thank you for pointing out a supposed sin committed by the Democratic Party? Oh, and I did not misread the article. Congressman Kanjorski said, "I'll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we...the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn't say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war. Now anybody was a good student of Government would know that wasn't true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts...and people ate it up." I do not see the word "lie" or "lied" anywhere in this quote, though the stupid article you cited certainly made you think that is what he said. Who didn't read the article carefully? I'll help you, okay? According to the Congressman, Democrats stretched the facts about ending the war, even though good students of Government would know they couldn't really do that. He used the word "implied" ... if you make enough hints and suggestions, people will think you said you could do it. His comments are actually quite tame. He did not specify which Democrats did this. He did not specify which facts they stretched. Nor did he specify how they stretched them. He didn't even specify that there was a plan, let alone what the plan was. He simply said some folks knew they couldn't really stop the war, but let Americans think that is what they were going to do. A lot of us want the war to end (a lot of us didn't want it to start). Yes ... many people voted for Democrats in the hope that they would, indeed, bring the war to an end. Anyone with any political sense and understanding of how their government works realized, as the election returns were coming in during the 2006 elections, that the Dems did not get the majority they would need to actually make it happen. But let me ask you this ... how does a Congressman reporting that (unidentified) Democrats made an (unexplained) plan to let Americans think they could deliver on an undeliverable promise compare -- in terms of reliability and candor (not to mention sheer shock value) -- compare to a former Press Secretary reporting that the White House deliberately set out to mislead the American public about the reasons for invading Iraq, that the President failed miserably to meet the challenge of Hurricane Katrina, that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby were less than forthright with him when they told him what to say about their involvement in the Valerie Plame scandal ... and so on? There, you have a person inside the White House ... a fairly reliable and involved observer ... naming names and providing details about what those around him were doing.
Mon, 05/26/2008 - 12:49 — No....HATER....YOU don't get it so you Make it up.
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...And stop asserting stuff you MAKE UP.
  • YOU have NO idea what Hollywood's motives are. My -guess- would be indulging their own values AND presuming Easy money because they ASSUME folks like you... represent America. Wrong.
  • By the way BlackHawk Down was hardly a "Pro-War Movie". ( Except by your definition...anything that doesn't show American military as stupid, corrupt, racist and hateful is "Pro-War".)
  • Another one you can let go of...."BlackHawk Down" ie. it was not box office either.) Looks like it made ~$20 Million dollars... before counting many foreign or DVD sales. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265086/business http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265086/trailers-screenplay-vi2310668569
    • Tue, 05/27/2008 - 15:32 — Your mistake is simple
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    War Hater does not understand what a million dollars is. let alone $20 million. He makes things up because he is clinically paranoid and he has to reform reality to match his dillusions. Remember his comment that he needs his meds(Zanac) with a serious dose of alcohol to respond to a post? That combination can result in paranoia-and I think in his case does.

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