Posted on Sunday, 7/01/2007 - 4:45 p.m. PDT — by DVWatcher
As we get closer to August, what are things looking like for next year's BVAL breakdown? I hear Clayton Valley looks really strong on defense, they were pretty young last year, and that Pitt and DV will once again battle for the top of the league. DV lost Jones and that guy will be impossible to replace, but they will always have good speed at the skilled positions. I hear Pitt has a new transfer QB from Pinole. Has anyone seen him? Liberty has a new coach who was hired late, so they are probably battling to catch up. I don't know much about Freedom, Heritage, or YV. I am curious what everyone thinks.
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Thanks for the insight. Based upon the opinions being expressed in the forum, it doesn't seem like anybody has much faith in Coach Smith. I don't know anything about him other than what my kids tell me that they hear from their friends. Since both of my kids have graduated, I'm sure they don't hear as much as the kids on campus do.
On the player that was kicked off the team, who kicked him off if it wasn't the Coach? And why would the Athletic Board let him back on if he's a doper? Did they give a reason for doing that?
I definitely agree with you regarding the lack of discipline on the team. Do you think this happened in one year or do you think that these problems have been going on for a while? It's hard to imagine that a football program could go from the disciplined operation that another poster described to the behavior that was described at Heritage in one year.
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There are lines in life that people shouldn't cross and you seem to be the kind of person that doesn't recognize that.
Your criticizing a branch of our Country's Armed Services is unnecessary. Every day, our young people serving in the Army are injured or killed. Disrespecting the organization they serve in is wrong. If that's the attitude that Stantz had, then it's no surprise that people wanted him out.
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My father and I both served in the USMC. My son currently serves in the US Army. Rivalry between branches of the US Armed Forces is not something that the average high school student/athete is aware of so, from my perspective, it is inappropriate in this forum. You might be honest in saying you mean no disrespect. Many readers on this forum won't understand that.
Regarding insinuations and falsehoods, my bet is you are a former coach at Liberty. If you're not, why don't you do what you told other posters to do: get out of the bleachers and get involved.
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Why is it that what you post is a fact and what everyone else is posting is rumor and inuendo? You speak of the kid that was kicked off the team and then allowed back on as if he is an All-American that made one small mistake. Other posters on this site clearly see him differently. You have an opinion about the kid that other people don't share. Because it's your opinion, that doesn't make it fact.
You say that Stantz and Tabke ran tight ships. You have an opinon but it isn't any more factual than other opinions offered in this forum. Many parents and players feel that Tabke and Stantz played favorites You say that Stantz and Tabke know how to win but I believe that Stantz failed to advance when he had the most talented team in the BVAL.
Here's something I'm positive about. Factspeaker and recordsetter had it right. You were, or maybe are, a coach at Liberty. I think you're a former coach. Your opinion is you did a great job. Other people don't think so.
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Whatever you say. You're right of course and thank you for being so positive, Dad. And oh, so repetitve too. You've said the same thing over and over, I guess you struggle to make your point or just refuse to quit until everyone agrees with you.
You're more preoccupied with who I must be and why I must be defending someone to see that I am defending every kid who's made a mistake and learned a lesson. But that's okay, small minds seems to prevail on these boards. Personally, I've wasted enough of my time on this. Have at it, boys.
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Bye.
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Well, starting next season, DLS will be in the EBAL and unless BVAL teams schedule a non-league game with them (not likely) we will only see BVAL vs DLS at the Sectionals.
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Everyone is speaking so highly on Beede the Antioch coach.. umm have you guys not been paying attention to the games.. I believe Antioch is having a worst season than last year ,thus taking a step back. For such a good coach that is turning around things sorry but the reality is that this team has taken a step back..
last year what were they 6-4??? this year 4-5 more than likely 4-6 after they come to the P next saturday???
I don't really call that turning things around. They had a couple of bad years yea but in 01 02 03 and 04 they were a decent team...
Beede is a good coach maybe not suited for the HC position. Back a few years they were solid with Casteel, Dixon,Straiten and Beltram. they made it to the playoffs that year, then the AD wanted his son to play more so his buddy the principal fired the OC after being tops in the BVAL . Typical administration getting involved where they know nothing. The Kids played for that guy, then they pulled the rug. Blame the administration for situation there. Good to see him back though.
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I've heard nothing but good things about Redemer. The freshman program is the key to the development of a disciplined program. When the freshman coach demands respect for the game, respect for the program and, most importantly, respect for the school, he sets the tone for the behavior of the players during the high school career. There is a lack of discipline and respect demonstrated by many of the varsity players. You can bet that started at the freshman level. It sounds like Coach Redemer is committed to turning that around. His hard work and commitment now will result in positiv changes for the Liberty squad in the future.
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That's good to hear. I'm looking forward to next season. I think Coach Smith deserves support next year. The team shows signs of improving. There's a core of players who believe in the coach and my understanding is that some of them will return next year. There are some seniors that have really worked hard for Coach Smith as well and that speak very highly of him.
Your take on Tabke is different than I've heard from other parents. Was it your experience that he played favorites? That's the complaint I've heard the most but maybe it's sour grapes because their kids weren't playing.
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Good information. You've certainly changed my perspective. Up until now, all I'd heard was negative about Tabke. I definitely agree that there are times that a coach has to be willing to get in a player's face.
Sounds like it might be a good idea for Coach Smith to contact Tabke and ask for him to help out. If Tabke came back to coach the freshman team and Coach Redemer moved up to JV, (or vice versa) it sounds like you'd have three coaches laying out the same game plan and enforcing a consistent level of discipline. I think this critical to the improvement of the overall program.
I didn't know that some players decided to sit out the season. That had to be a very tough decision. It seems like Smith is a tough spot too. From what I hear, several of the best players on the team are the ones that are creating the most problems. The team is already losing every game and I'm sure he doesn't want to get beat even worse so he's probably bending his own rules to keep the talent on the field. Not a good situation because, no matter what you do, people are going to criticize your decision.
Thanks for the insights.
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I agree with thatguy and you regarding the direction that needs to be taken to support Liberty football. My kids are done at Liberty but I want to do what I can to help the football program move forward. I hope you'll use this site as a means of letting folks know what they can do to help Coach Smith in making things better.
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Heritage "draining" talent from Liberty. Are you the one that claimed parents "pulled all available strings"?? to get their kids into Heritage?. Think about what you are proposing.
The Kids that moved to Heritage did not move there thinking "wow...a brand new school...were going to take over B-wood and own Liberty in sports"...Are you nuts?
When they transferred, they had no idea they would even have a Varsity football team before the first class of seniors graduated. They fielded a Junior and sophomore Varsity basketball team last year (not an ideal take-over situation) and performed very well. Think back to when the transfers happened. I believe there were only 200+ sophomores the first year (the ones graduatiing now). So La brat...it was alot more like " lets do what we can to get our kids into an uncrowded school, with uncrowded classrooms, we'll probably get pounded in all sporting events for the first several years (as expected of all new schools)". Heritage did not fill it's initial class of sophomores and many more Liberty students (and athletes) could have moved over and chose not to. That Heritage has performed so well so soon is a credit to the coaching staff, but more so to the kids that jumped into the unknown situation of a new school. Again, when they were offered the chance...the Heritage (current) students and athletes left a chance with an established (but crowded) school and program at Liberty for the unknown.
Edited 11/9/2007 4:37 pm ET by booda
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Thanks for the chart. There were quite a few changes.
Not to say that De La Salle and Carondolet don't have enough advantages to offset the disadvantage but it's interesting that they are they only school that isn't part of a contiguous league. Actually, that might be another advantage for them. Many of their teams, especially the football team, are used to travelling. Hour + drives could hurt the Pleasanton and Livermore teams.
Looks like Clayton Valley reaped the biggest advantage. I look for them to be dominant in just about every sport given the league that they'll be in next year.
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The formatting on that chart is a little messed up, it makes it look like the DVAL is named after Dougherty Valley, rather than the correct Diablo Valley Athletic League.
DVAL
Berean Christian
Clayton Valley
College Park
Concord
Mt. Diablo
Northgate
Ygnacio Valley
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Can anyone fill me in on what happened to Chad Truesdale....... I heard he transferred out of DLS and have heard rumors he is attending Antioch and NOT playing football...He was a tall lanky WR/SS with decent speed and was also a great route runner...His style of play would fit in great at heritage (Brentwood) because they could use him as a sweeper and SS.
Please update me!
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My son played youth football with Chad and goes to school with him at Antioch. After reading your post ,I asked him about Chad. He said to his knowledge, Chad is strictly basketball now. He said it's his best sport so he's focusing on that.
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chad is attending heritage High school in brentwood. i am part of the coaching staff here. i have found him to be extremly direspcetfull to everyone on the team and i doubt he would make it very far in football. maybe he can try some baby sport such as tennis or bowling.. or golf might suit him.. but not football.. he doesnt put an effort at all on the field.. he is a all around FALIURE!!
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IF YOU TRULY ARE A COACH, IT'S COACHES LIKE YOU THAT GIVE HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS A BAD NAME.
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Yes Paula you are correct he is attending AHS which I dont understand at all. I saw this kid play when he was a freshman at DLS he is a star in the making. He has a great body build and can also run great for his size. He needs to leave Antioch (ASAP) and get over to Freedom or Heritage both teams that will have great success in the years to come. Antioch is a low scale football team that doesn't attract many eyes. He would also excel in the classroom and on the feild in a (Brentwood) school district.
Coach damon
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Wow "coach", I never realized that it was an option to leave a high school that you attend because they have a low scale football team.
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As also stated..
" He would also excel in the classroom and on the feild in a (Brentwood) school district"
There is nothing wrong with giving your child the best possible education and chances for a scholarship! As long as you are following the rules and live in the district, you should be trying to get the best for you kids. As a parent who is happy to get Free (sports scholarship) money for my kids to attend college, I am going to get my kids into the best program in my area. There is a HUGE difference in the education/teachers/coaches our kids are getting within the same district and it is sad. I have seen the differences and I know that in high school, if you miss the bus, there is no second chance! I wish I had made different choices for my older child, now I am making better choices for my other kids, there future counts on it!
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You seem to have all the answers. None the less you are ignorant. You think playing at Heritage and Freedom is going to get you a Scholorship? Good grades gets you a scholorship on top of being a good athlete. How many Scholorships Heritage or Freedom pumped out? Maybe Softball and it wasn't because they played softball there, it was because of the travel teams they played on. Give Heritage a few years, all the Antioch kids playing over there will be back.
Antioch has one thing you'll never be a part of... history.
The PARENTS who pimp their kids around on this fantasy that their Football coach is going to get them a Scholorship are as stupid as this guy sounds.
Then he throws in "Excel in the Classroom" like you really care.
How much are they paying you!
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Wow, I didn't know that you would get so irate over a post, Oh ya that is what I remember from Antioch. That would be from MY past experience as an AHS Graduate. As if AHS is anything like it used to be! I never said I had all the answers; my statement was from my personal experience with my Children who had to attend different schools within the same area. There education/teachers/counselors are like night and day! And as an involved parent I am not relying on a single High School coach to get my kid into college. If you want your kid to be "seen" or to be able to have a future in any sports beyond high school (and if the have the talent to do so!) you have to do the leg work. There is not one coach in the BVAL who can promise to do that for you. Most of the scouts calling my son are not coming from there high school coach. If you have the talent it is Exposure, not pimping. Oh and lets not forget that the Kids LOVE to play... and when they are playing they are not out getting into trouble!
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Field...............not feild. What classroom did you excel in?
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Coach Damon
You said, "Antioch is a low scale football team that doesn't attract many eyes."
Obviously you you're ignorant to the history of football in Antioch. You seem to have left another city and migrated to our area.
Antioch has great tradition and college coaches and their scouts know that. Everyone knows that this was once a great football powerhouse. And AHS and PHS were football factories of players. Antioch has their athletes. And people know it. Although they lost to CP yesterday, they gave Miramonte a great test. And they beat the up a good YV team. Don't knock the football team unless you've been there on Friday nights. It's a changed program and on the rise.
Transfering to another school district will not ensure or promise that athlete a ticket to college. Look at how many great seasons DLS has had. How many of those players received scholarships? Sick and tired of people suggesting kids should transfer. Stay in your home town and be proud of its tradition. Make your own mark and legacy. Yea Freedom and Heritage are magnets. lollll!
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Chad truly is a special kid I had a chance to work with him when he played AYF. Very respcetful and a all around good kid, But Ive been hearing things as the years go by that in the class room he doesnt produce. If he want's to play D1 football he better get on top of the classroom game. he is also a star in track best of luck!
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I dont bet my money on kids from Pittsburgh/Antioch because my luck always seems to fail. From Cameron Colvin the oregon star to the under sized Willie Glaspher and the powerful hard hitting of Michael Dominguez also pittsburghs star Rice Wilson. All four kids failed, had no succuess, Growing up in Antioch gives kids a diffferent swagger ROUGH, HARD HEAD, GHETTO. So I wont be suprised if Trusdale goes wrong somewhere down the line, I also hear the background he came from was pretty rough. (WHAT I HAVE HEARD)
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bvalwatcher2, you won't be surprised if Trusdale (by the way, his name is TRUESDELL) goes wrong and you've heard he comes from a rough background? Well you heard wrong and you should stop spreading your uninformed opinion any further. Also, who are you to say anyone is a failure? Do us all a favor and SHUT UP.
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I havent seen his name on any spring football roster or any basketball roster. I've heard rumors he will be attending DVHS which is shocking to me. If so DVHS can be a true contender, he will need some polishing from not playing for a whole year but the kid is an athlete so he should have no problem. IM EXCITED FOR THE SEASON!
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So, what does everyone think about this weeks BVAL games?
Who's the favorite to win it this year? Pitt? Freedom? Deer Valley? A resurgent Antioch?
I am stating now that Liberty will win at least one league game. It'll be an upset, but I see it coming. Also, does anyone know how the JV teams in the league are doing? That's always a good indicator of future sucess.
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Pitt JV is 2-0 with wins 20 (or 27?) - 6 over Sacred Heart Cathedral and 34-14 over Monte Vista.