Posted on Sat, 06/07/2008 - 12:17 — by ROBOT
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In a move that shows their utter contempt for the people of California, Common sense and nature (God) Itself, the California Supreme Court ruled that not allowing same sex couples to “marry” was “unconstitutional.
I’ve said it before and will doubtlessly say it again, a basic knowledge of anatomy will show the average person, queer or not that homosexuality is unnatural and perverted. Nope, as far as human sexual relations go tab “A” doesn’t (or shouldn’t) go into slot “A”.
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I’ve often said that if homos are allowed to “marry” there will be no reason to keep people from engaging in polygamy or “marrying” animals. Of course the queer lobby scoffs at the obvious conclusion. That is, MOST of the sodomite lobby scoffs at that. There is one notable exception. Frank Kameny, a hero of the queer community wrote to a pro-family group that a person should be able to knock boots (hooves, paws whatever) with an animal if that’s what gets them off. http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66060
Kameny was instrumental in getting the American Psychiatric Association into reclassifying homosexuality as “normal”.
In spite of the victory given to the degenerates by the California Supreme Court, there is a glimmer of hope for the State. Several days ago the California Marriage Protection Act qualified for the November ballot. The initiative needed just under 700,000 signatures and it received over a million. This is a proposed California Constitution Amendment that will state the obvious, that MARRIAGE is between a MAN and a WOMAN.
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Have you ever met a guy called Ohso?
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A lot of straight guys like putting tab "A1" into slots "B2" and even "C2." Sometimes they will put tabs "D2a" and "D2b" into slot "B1." Then they put tab "B1" into slot "A2." None of this leads to reproduction, but it all possible, and even common. Are you worried about all that too?
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Ok, only with my wife, when we were younger, and drunk!!!!!!
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assembly instructions on Christmas eve or Algebra. I hate it when you've already put the tab into the slot and realize, whoops!!! this doesn't go there!! And then it's always stuck. And when you try to pull it out it tears off. Now the kids are crying that "Daddy broke it" The wife's mad that I put it in the wrong place to begin. Now I'm looking for batteries hoping that I can get that other thingy I have to entertain people until I can get this figured out. Â
Cowboy I don't know how you could possible do it drunk.
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ROFLMAO!
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I'm a trained professional... So don't try this at home.
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The California Constitution expressly states that only the Legislature and the people through the initiative process can make new laws.
Ann Barnett
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Bakersfield, CA 93301
CCF has important new action steps for you. The battle to block homosexual "marriages" has moved to the local level. Your courageous action is needed to urge any pro-family local officials you have to use all their power and influence to protect marriage. Don't accept them saying they "can't do anything."
TWO NEW ACTION STEPS -- PLEASE DO IMMEDIATELY
1. Send a pre-written email message to your California state and federal representatives, demanding that they use all their power and influence to block homosexual "marriages."
2. Download CCF's Marriage Protection Ordinance and give it to your local county supervisor in California. Ask him or her to introduce it at your next board of supervisors meeting and work to pass it as a county ordinance. Then no homosexual "marriage" licenses can be issued in your county!
The California Constitution says that counties can make and enforce local ordinances that are not in conflict with California statutes -- and the statutes still say that marriage is exclusively for a man and a woman. In 2000, 52 out of 58 counties approved Proposition 22, to protect marriage for only a man and a woman in the Family Code. See the voter map.
To locate your county government's website and find your county supervisor, click here. After you ask your supervisor to commit to introduce the Marriage Protection Ordinance, please report back to CCF via email.
Click here for additional action steps at savecalifornia.com.
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I'm glad to finally see a SERIOUS response.
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AMEN to THAT! Because it will ultimately be the LIBERALS who LIBERATE Al Qaeda and allow them to INFEST the world!!
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Clearly you haven't ventured into the plethora of Ohso diatribes in which he hijacks any thread that he considers gay/lesbian related.
Psychopaths can be serious; it hardly mean they have valid points. OCD personalities can persist despite knowing they rave against logic.
But over time you'll likely come to the same conclusion and understand why so many people avoid these "serious" boards.
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What was psychopathic about Ohso's post? It seemed logical to me and it showed a possible to solution to the problem.
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Friend there cannot exist a post anywhere on this board that doesn't get hijacked by the rantings of Ohso's cut and paste fanaticism. I stopped trying to read his posts a couple years back when he offered the opinion that only evil parents let their child see Harry Potter movies. Somehow, if any possible link can be made between gayness and a thread on this board, Ohso hijacks the thread with voluminous cut and pastes that destroy the ability to have a reasonable conversation about the original post. You'll find out.  He pretty much stays off the Sport/Entertainment boards, so those are safe.
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OK. I see where that can be a problem. Too much cutting and pasting can be a bad thing. Not as bad as queer "marriage" though.
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Thank god the California Supreme Court had the wisdom and courage to make the right decision in the face of hysterical opposition from rabid bigots like you.
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"rabid bigots"Â i.e., anyone who recognizes that two men packing each others ***** is UNNATURAL.
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Let's not digress into the nature argument: every animal species has demonstrated both heterosexual and homosexual behavior. Therefore, it is a natural phenomenon. The earth is not flat. That aside, just because something is natural, doesn't mean it is morally right . It is essentially morally neutral. One needn't like it, it simply exists.
Now, can you oppose same-sex marriage and not be a bigot? Yes.  One can have strongly held beliefs, religious or otherwise. Marriage is a man-made social institution, therefore social arguments are applicable.Â
Frankly speaking, the difficulty I have finding credibility in the anti-gay rhetoric is the simple fact that the reason for opposition does not correspond accordingly to heterosexuals. If that describes you, i.e. "gay is against the bible" but you accept the remarriage of divorced people, accept children out of wedlock, accept premarital sec, then that is bigotry. If one uses selections from the bible to legally disinfranchise a group (such as blacks, women, gays) as I see in the websites fromthe "pro-family" groups but ignores analogous issues rampant in the "normal" families that are also anti-biblical, that is both bigotry and hypocrisy.
As to me, I don't use Christ to hate and I will discourage my children from using Christ to hate. Nor do I condone bending science against it's facts. So that's where I'm coming from.
I have met and accept folks whose religious beliefs are anti-gay, but they are also vehemently anti-divorce and anti-extramarital sex. They are also private in their religious convictions, unlike the condemn Pharisee in Jesus's parable of the taxcollector. I will also say that folks of religious integrity are rare. That is because it is rare to find somone who takes the log out of his own eye before trying to remove the speck from his brother's.
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You're absolutely right. I can't remember who posted this, but they said "Gay marriage=death to America." Well, if by that they mean the change... if America never changed, we'd still be superior to blacks. Women would not be allowed to work... etc etc. Change is not always good, but it definitely doesn't mean death to America.
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Thank god the California Supreme Court had the wisdom and courage (to override the will of the people) to make the right decision in the face of hysterical opposition from rabid bigots like you.
Thats what your really saying.
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Obviously you are clueless as to the role that the courts play in American society. Was the will of the people being overridden when the U S Supreme Court ruled against segregation in schools? Most likely, at least in certain parts of the country. Does that mean the court was wrong in doing so? Of course not. It is often said that one of the roles of the judicial system is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Apparently you prefer tyranny to the rule of law. Just think, had it not been for the courts, Al Gore would likely have become president in 2000.
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"Wisdom and courage" of the Court? What a complete HOOT !   Wisdom to read precedence where there is none?  Courage to invent judgements out of whole cloth?  To write the laws of the State when that is not in there job description?  What it is... is massive huberis and disdain for the people of California.  (you know...the little people "clutching their guns and bibles" so aptly revealing of the mind set of the Left Elite).  At least now these Judges can go to San Francisco cocktail parties and feel all noble and special.
If you want to see true tyranny and HATE (a word you all think you own) watch The homosexual rights mafia threaten and sabotage any effort or confab by former homosexuals. You may not even know there are ex-homosexuals.  The Gay Activists can't even allow that fact to reach the general public.  And of course the media is an echo chamber for any homosexual affirmation. Its just the liberal thing to do.  Â
As to lies...bold face lies... listen to a "Gay Activist" explain (if you can force such a conversation) how ex-homosexuals are 'pretending' or have been browbeaten by evil society into that posture.  Look into the faces of these "Activists" if you want to see unfettered Hate. Am I promoting gays to drop homosexuality? Wrong.  Am I "homophobic"? WRONG again. Nothing here says that.  I am just allegic to BS and fraud...esp. when perpetrated on an entire State.
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Obviously you are clueless as to the role that the courts play in American society. Really; the Supreme Leadership of this nation is not the court or the legistlature—it is the will of the people. Â
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Was the will of the people being overridden when the U S Supreme Court ruled against segregation in schools? In the states it occurred in, yes it was—but those states were part of a larger nation that , in the majority, held a different opinion, expressed in out Constitution through the amendment process. The amendment process is the over-riding power to express the will of the people over the opinion of the court. That is precisely what is occuring in California; if an amendment passes that bans gay marriage, the courts will not have the option of overturning it.
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It is often said that one of the roles of the judicial system is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Â That protection occurs in the Constitution, not the courts. A socialist like you should be opposed to respecting minority rights when they oppose the will of the majority.
I think the proponents of gay marriage have made a huge stategic mistake in this election, the same mistake that cost Al Gore the presidency( it was the votes, not the courts). Democrats never learn, and that is a good thing.
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Having been a practicing lawyer in California for over thirty years, I can say with complete accuracy that, as is usually the case, you do not know what you are talking about. The "will of the people" does not decide what is or is not constitutionally protected or prohibited. Those determinations are made by courts and judges, based on established legal precedent, whether you can recognize that as fact or not. The U.S. is not and never has been a pure democracy. It is a constitutional republic and a nation of laws, not of majority rule. And get a clue...it is the courts that interpret and enforce the constitution. Maybe you should spend your summer re-learning the basics of the constitution and the structure of federal and state governments and stop wasting so much time posting all the absurd and false nonsense that you write on these boards.   Â
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Government to pastor: Renounce your faith!
Now banned from expressing moral opposition to homosexuality
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The Canadian government has ordered a Christian pastor to renounce
his faith and never again express moral opposition to homosexuality,
according to a new report.
In a decision handed down just days ago in the penalty phase of the
quasi-judicial proceedings run by the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal,
evangelical pastor Stephen Boisson was banned from expressing his
biblical perspective of homosexuality and ordered to pay $5,000
for "damages for pain and suffering" as well as apologize to the
activist who complained of being hurt.
According to a report from Pete Vere at the Catholic Exchange, the
penalty could foreshadow the possible fate of Father Alphonse de
Valk, who also has cited the biblical perspective on homosexuality in
the nation's debate over same-sex "marriage" and now faces HRC
charges.
Boisson had written a letter to the editor of his local Red Deer
newspaper in 2002 denouncing the advance of homosexual activism
as "wicked" and stating: "Children as young as five and six years of
age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically
damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school
system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights."
The activist, local teacher Darren Lund, filed a complaint and the
guilty verdict from Lori G. Andreachuk, a lawyer, was handed down
some weeks ago. The latest decision involved the penalty phase of the
trial.
"While agreeing that Boisson's letter was not a criminal act, the
government tribunal nevertheless ordered the Christian pastor to
[stop expressing his opinion]," Vere reported.
Andreachuk noted that Lund, who brought the complaint, wasn't, in
fact, injured.
"In this case there is no specific individual who can be compensated
as there is no direct victim who has come forward…," she wrote.
However, that did not stop her from ordering the payment anyway.
And as for the future, she wrote:
"Mr. Boissoin and The Concerned Christian Coalition Inc. shall cease
publishing in newspapers, by e-mail, on the radio, in public
speeches, or on the Internet, in future, disparaging remarks about
gays and homosexuals. Further, they shall not and are prohibited from
making disparaging remarks in the future about … Lund or … Lund's
witnesses relating to their involvement in this complaint. Further,
all disparaging remarks versus homosexuals are directed to be removed
from current Web sites and publications of Mr. Boissoin and The
Concerned Christian Coalition Inc," the lawyer opined.
Andreachuk also ordered Boissoin to apologize for the original letter
in the Red Deer Advocate and told the two "offenders" to pay $5,000.
The apology letter, Vere said, "threatens civil liberties in Canada,
according to Ezra Levant, an author and lawyer who himself was
targeted by an HRC attack."
"[The] government now believes that if it can't convince a Christian
pastor that he's wrong, it will just order him to condemn himself?"
Levant wrote on his blog. "Other than tribunals in Stalin's Soviet
Union and Mao's China, where is this Orwellian 'order' considered to
be justice?"
"This is like a Third World jail-house confession – where accused
criminals are forced to sign false statements of guilt," Levant
wrote. "We don't even 'order' murderers to apologize to their
victims' families. Because we know that a forced apology is
meaningless. But not if your point is to degrade Christian pastors."
"In essence, the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal is ordering to the
minister to renounce his Christian faith, since his opposition to
homosexuality is based upon the Judeo-Christian Bible," Vere wrote.
WND reported recently about de Valk, the target of a Human Rights
Commission case over his biblical references regarding homosexuality.
"Father [de Valk] defended the [Catholic] Church's teaching on
marriage during Canada's same-sex 'marriage' debate, quoting
extensively from the Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and
Pope John Paul II's encyclicals. Each of these documents contains
official Catholic teaching. And like millions of other people
throughout the world and the ages – many of whom are non-Catholics
and non-Christians — Father believes that marriage is an exclusive
union between a man and a woman," Vere wrote.
Vere raised the question that Canada now considers morality a "hate
crime."
"If one, because of one's sincerely held moral beliefs, whether it be
Jew, Muslim, Christian, Catholic, opposes the idea of same-sex
marriage in Canada, is that considered 'hate'?" he asked.
Vere wrote that the response he got from Mark van Dusen, a spokesman
for the federal human rights prosecution office, shocked him.
The government agent confirmed the agency investigates complaints but
doesn't set public policy or moral standards. He said the agency job
is to look at the circumstances and decide whether to advance it or
dismiss it.
What is shocking about that, Vere wrote, is the admission that
unjustified complaints can be dismissed, yet the case against de Valk
has continued now for more than six months.
An extended audio recording between Vere and van Dusen is posted on
YouTube.
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Earth to Osho. Who cares about Canada? In the U.S. we have a constitutional right to free speech and to freedom of religion. So your scare tactics are empty. Ever deal in facts? I find facts quite refreshing. Try it sometime.
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It is very telling that Ohso fails to quote extensively from the statements and literature that were found objectionable. Obviously, they went beyond the mere expression of personal or organizational beliefs about the morality of homosexuals and homosexual behavior. The phrase "disparaging remarks versus homosexuals" reveals a lot as to the nature of the speech the provincial tribunal sought to ban.
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Power of Attorneys
While homosexual activists are already claiming victory, pro-marriage allies from across the nation are bolstering the court's case for "staying" the ruling. The attorneys general of nine states, all of whom have a stake in the outcome of the June decision, urged the justices not to instigate same-sex "marriage" until the November election. In a strong showing, the attorneys general of Alaska, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Michigan, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Utah echoed our concern that a premature walk down California's aisle could mean legal bedlam in several states. Unlike Massachusetts, California law allows couples from other states to obtain marriage licenses. If out-of-state couples exchange vows before November, then travel home and sue their home state for recognition, American courts will be tied up for years trying to sort out what was preventable chaos. For the 26 states with marriage protection amendments, homosexual activists face an uphill battle even if the June 16 outcome is favorable to them. Last week, we witnessed the potency of a marriage amendment in Oregon when a federal court threw out a legal challenge to the state's definition of marriage.
On Friday, a Wisconsin court followed with a second blow to same-sex "marriage" by dismissing a lawsuit to overturn the Badger State's marriage amendment. While everyone from Macy's bridal registry to New York Gov. David Paterson (D) is trying to accommodate same-sex weddings, public opinion is still opposed to gay "marriage." On Thursday, the Pew Research Center announced the results of a new poll in which "28 percent of voters view the issue as 'very important' in their decision about who [sic] to vote for in the fall."
Despite cries that the issue is losing traction, Pew's research shows that the resistance to same-sex "marriage" has held steady since 2004. This is certain to trouble most Democrats leading up to the general election, particularly since large pockets of that opposition reside in one of their most reliable voting blocs--black and Hispanic women. As Ben Wattenberg of the American Enterprise Institute says, "...
Democrats always say social issues have gone away and they never do. They [haven't] gone away since 1968."
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Academentia - The Disgrace of Weimar Kalifornia... is nothing more than a pathetic farce of Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex Hate Propaganda - sold at an outrageous price to those who don't mind getting less than their money's worth (meaning the captive body of students), so long as they graduate and get to leave...
The most recent story in the Times about the abysmal preparation for junior college that is the product of our high schools - merely confirms prior reports about the woeful ignorance of college graduates, including those from four year institutions, who if nothing tend to regress during four years of Political Mau Mauing by fact challenged leftist poseurs and bigoted professorial buffoons...
Sooooo... Try renting a copy of the new video - "Indoctrinate U", for just a glimpse of the types of Orwellian Thought Police currently patrolling the hollowed out halls of these all to former educational institutions, now become just another sad parody of South Park's "Death Camp of Tolerance".
Best keep quiet about it though - the Campus Thought Police in the Weimar Kalifornia University System also patrol the community for Ungood Thoughts and take Secret Police Actions against them too, and so we wouldn't want to spread any "Ism-Obia" now would we... What with everything else going around and all...
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So here we are. Because of the extreme reluctance of county counsels to uphold the written constitution and the written statutes, none of the clerks are refusing to issue homosexual "marriage" licenses.