Posted on Saturday, 6/07/2008 - 12:17 p.m. PDT — by ROBOT
In a move that shows their utter contempt for the people of California, Common sense and nature (God) Itself, the California Supreme Court ruled that not allowing same sex couples to “marry” was “unconstitutional.
I’ve said it before and will doubtlessly say it again, a basic knowledge of anatomy will show the average person, queer or not that homosexuality is unnatural and perverted. Nope, as far as human sexual relations go tab “A” doesn’t (or shouldn’t) go into slot “A”.
I’ve often said that if homos are allowed to “marry” there will be no reason to keep people from engaging in polygamy or “marrying” animals. Of course the queer lobby scoffs at the obvious conclusion. That is, MOST of the sodomite lobby scoffs at that. There is one notable exception. Frank Kameny, a hero of the queer community wrote to a pro-family group that a person should be able to knock boots (hooves, paws whatever) with an animal if that’s what gets them off. http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66060
Kameny was instrumental in getting the American Psychiatric Association into reclassifying homosexuality as “normal”.
In spite of the victory given to the degenerates by the California Supreme Court, there is a glimmer of hope for the State. Several days ago the California Marriage Protection Act qualified for the November ballot. The initiative needed just under 700,000 signatures and it received over a million. This is a proposed California Constitution Amendment that will state the obvious, that MARRIAGE is between a MAN and a WOMAN.
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Have you ever met a guy called Ohso?
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A lot of straight guys like putting tab "A1" into slots "B2" and even "C2." Sometimes they will put tabs "D2a" and "D2b" into slot "B1." Then they put tab "B1" into slot "A2." None of this leads to reproduction, but it all possible, and even common. Are you worried about all that too?
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Ok, only with my wife, when we were younger, and drunk!!!!!!
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assembly instructions on Christmas eve or Algebra. I hate it when you've already put the tab into the slot and realize, whoops!!! this doesn't go there!! And then it's always stuck. And when you try to pull it out it tears off. Now the kids are crying that "Daddy broke it" The wife's mad that I put it in the wrong place to begin. Now I'm looking for batteries hoping that I can get that other thingy I have to entertain people until I can get this figured out.
Cowboy I don't know how you could possible do it drunk.
Peas
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ROFLMAO!
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I'm a trained professional... So don't try this at home.
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I think OHSO and ROBOT have spent toooooo much time together, if you know what I mean???
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The California Constitution expressly states that only the Legislature and the people through the initiative process can make new laws.
Ann Barnett
Kern County Auditor-Controller-County Clerk
1115 Truxtun Avenue
Bakersfield, CA 93301
CCF has important new action steps for you. The battle to block homosexual "marriages" has moved to the local level. Your courageous action is needed to urge any pro-family local officials you have to use all their power and influence to protect marriage. Don't accept them saying they "can't do anything."
TWO NEW ACTION STEPS -- PLEASE DO IMMEDIATELY
1. Send a pre-written email message to your California state and federal representatives, demanding that they use all their power and influence to block homosexual "marriages."
2. Download CCF's Marriage Protection Ordinance and give it to your local county supervisor in California. Ask him or her to introduce it at your next board of supervisors meeting and work to pass it as a county ordinance. Then no homosexual "marriage" licenses can be issued in your county!
The California Constitution says that counties can make and enforce local ordinances that are not in conflict with California statutes -- and the statutes still say that marriage is exclusively for a man and a woman. In 2000, 52 out of 58 counties approved Proposition 22, to protect marriage for only a man and a woman in the Family Code. See the voter map.
To locate your county government's website and find your county supervisor, click here. After you ask your supervisor to commit to introduce the Marriage Protection Ordinance, please report back to CCF via email.
Click here for additional action steps at savecalifornia.com.
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I'm glad to finally see a SERIOUS response.
Robot
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.
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AMEN to THAT! Because it will ultimately be the LIBERALS who LIBERATE Al Qaeda and allow them to INFEST the world!!
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Clearly you haven't ventured into the plethora of Ohso diatribes in which he hijacks any thread that he considers gay/lesbian related.
Psychopaths can be serious; it hardly mean they have valid points. OCD personalities can persist despite knowing they rave against logic.
But over time you'll likely come to the same conclusion and understand why so many people avoid these "serious" boards.
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What was psychopathic about Ohso's post? It seemed logical to me and it showed a possible to solution to the problem.
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.
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R-
Friend there cannot exist a post anywhere on this board that doesn't get hijacked by the rantings of Ohso's cut and paste fanaticism. I stopped trying to read his posts a couple years back when he offered the opinion that only evil parents let their child see Harry Potter movies. Somehow, if any possible link can be made between gayness and a thread on this board, Ohso hijacks the thread with voluminous cut and pastes that destroy the ability to have a reasonable conversation about the original post. You'll find out. He pretty much stays off the Sport/Entertainment boards, so those are safe.
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OK. I see where that can be a problem. Too much cutting and pasting can be a bad thing. Not as bad as queer "marriage" though.
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.
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dumbing down our public schools and brainwashing our children into believing the Global warming crap. Not to mention making our State into a Welfare state and expanding social feel good programs that have bankrupted our state and Nation...
"Oh what a tangled web they weave, when they set out to deceive.
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Thank god the California Supreme Court had the wisdom and courage to make the right decision in the face of hysterical opposition from rabid bigots like you.
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"rabid bigots" i.e., anyone who recognizes that two men packing each others ***** is UNNATURAL.
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.
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Let's not digress into the nature argument: every animal species has demonstrated both heterosexual and homosexual behavior. Therefore, it is a natural phenomenon. The earth is not flat. That aside, just because something is natural, doesn't mean it is morally right . It is essentially morally neutral. One needn't like it, it simply exists.
Now, can you oppose same-sex marriage and not be a bigot? Yes. One can have strongly held beliefs, religious or otherwise. Marriage is a man-made social institution, therefore social arguments are applicable.
Frankly speaking, the difficulty I have finding credibility in the anti-gay rhetoric is the simple fact that the reason for opposition does not correspond accordingly to heterosexuals. If that describes you, i.e. "gay is against the bible" but you accept the remarriage of divorced people, accept children out of wedlock, accept premarital sec, then that is bigotry. If one uses selections from the bible to legally disinfranchise a group (such as blacks, women, gays) as I see in the websites fromthe "pro-family" groups but ignores analogous issues rampant in the "normal" families that are also anti-biblical, that is both bigotry and hypocrisy.
As to me, I don't use Christ to hate and I will discourage my children from using Christ to hate. Nor do I condone bending science against it's facts. So that's where I'm coming from.
I have met and accept folks whose religious beliefs are anti-gay, but they are also vehemently anti-divorce and anti-extramarital sex. They are also private in their religious convictions, unlike the condemn Pharisee in Jesus's parable of the taxcollector. I will also say that folks of religious integrity are rare. That is because it is rare to find somone who takes the log out of his own eye before trying to remove the speck from his brother's.
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You're absolutely right. I can't remember who posted this, but they said "Gay marriage=death to America." Well, if by that they mean the change... if America never changed, we'd still be superior to blacks. Women would not be allowed to work... etc etc. Change is not always good, but it definitely doesn't mean death to America.
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Thank god the California Supreme Court had the wisdom and courage (to override the will of the people) to make the right decision in the face of hysterical opposition from rabid bigots like you.
Thats what your really saying.
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Obviously you are clueless as to the role that the courts play in American society. Was the will of the people being overridden when the U S Supreme Court ruled against segregation in schools? Most likely, at least in certain parts of the country. Does that mean the court was wrong in doing so? Of course not. It is often said that one of the roles of the judicial system is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Apparently you prefer tyranny to the rule of law. Just think, had it not been for the courts, Al Gore would likely have become president in 2000.
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"Wisdom and courage" of the Court? What a complete HOOT ! Wisdom to read precedence where there is none? Courage to invent judgements out of whole cloth? To write the laws of the State when that is not in there job description? What it is... is massive huberis and disdain for the people of California. (you know...the little people "clutching their guns and bibles" so aptly revealing of the mind set of the Left Elite). At least now these Judges can go to San Francisco cocktail parties and feel all noble and special.
If you want to see true tyranny and HATE (a word you all think you own) watch The homosexual rights mafia threaten and sabotage any effort or confab by former homosexuals. You may not even know there are ex-homosexuals. The Gay Activists can't even allow that fact to reach the general public. And of course the media is an echo chamber for any homosexual affirmation. Its just the liberal thing to do.
As to lies...bold face lies... listen to a "Gay Activist" explain (if you can force such a conversation) how ex-homosexuals are 'pretending' or have been browbeaten by evil society into that posture. Look into the faces of these "Activists" if you want to see unfettered Hate. Am I promoting gays to drop homosexuality? Wrong. Am I "homophobic"? WRONG again. Nothing here says that. I am just allegic to BS and fraud...esp. when perpetrated on an entire State.
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Obviously you are clueless as to the role that the courts play in American society. Really; the Supreme Leadership of this nation is not the court or the legistlature—it is the will of the people.
Was the will of the people being overridden when the U S Supreme Court ruled against segregation in schools? In the states it occurred in, yes it was—but those states were part of a larger nation that , in the majority, held a different opinion, expressed in out Constitution through the amendment process. The amendment process is the over-riding power to express the will of the people over the opinion of the court. That is precisely what is occuring in California; if an amendment passes that bans gay marriage, the courts will not have the option of overturning it.
It is often said that one of the roles of the judicial system is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That protection occurs in the Constitution, not the courts. A socialist like you should be opposed to respecting minority rights when they oppose the will of the majority.
I think the proponents of gay marriage have made a huge stategic mistake in this election, the same mistake that cost Al Gore the presidency( it was the votes, not the courts). Democrats never learn, and that is a good thing.
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Having been a practicing lawyer in California for over thirty years, I can say with complete accuracy that, as is usually the case, you do not know what you are talking about. The "will of the people" does not decide what is or is not constitutionally protected or prohibited. Those determinations are made by courts and judges, based on established legal precedent, whether you can recognize that as fact or not. The U.S. is not and never has been a pure democracy. It is a constitutional republic and a nation of laws, not of majority rule. And get a clue...it is the courts that interpret and enforce the constitution. Maybe you should spend your summer re-learning the basics of the constitution and the structure of federal and state governments and stop wasting so much time posting all the absurd and false nonsense that you write on these boards.
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ScreenName pops up again with his usual diatribes.
1. He is a "practicing lawyer for over 30 years"...
2. He refers to "Clayton" as "Claybrain"....
Typical of a liberal - they attack the person rather than the facts.
I definitely wouldn't hire this lawyer for anything - and sure as *** would not recommend him to anyone. Hey, ScreenName - why don't you post your true name and firm so we can have a thoughtful discussion????
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What an air head. so you think peoples votes taken away by an activist judge is right? How would you like it if your vote was taken away? You called me a bigot for having my oppinion, I called you an air head. You need to change air every now and again!
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Government to pastor: Renounce your faith!
Now banned from expressing moral opposition to homosexuality
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66704
The Canadian government has ordered a Christian pastor to renounce
his faith and never again express moral opposition to homosexuality,
according to a new report.
In a decision handed down just days ago in the penalty phase of the
quasi-judicial proceedings run by the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal,
evangelical pastor Stephen Boisson was banned from expressing his
biblical perspective of homosexuality and ordered to pay $5,000
for "damages for pain and suffering" as well as apologize to the
activist who complained of being hurt.
According to a report from Pete Vere at the Catholic Exchange, the
penalty could foreshadow the possible fate of Father Alphonse de
Valk, who also has cited the biblical perspective on homosexuality in
the nation's debate over same-sex "marriage" and now faces HRC
charges.
Boisson had written a letter to the editor of his local Red Deer
newspaper in 2002 denouncing the advance of homosexual activism
as "wicked" and stating: "Children as young as five and six years of
age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically
damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school
system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights."
The activist, local teacher Darren Lund, filed a complaint and the
guilty verdict from Lori G. Andreachuk, a lawyer, was handed down
some weeks ago. The latest decision involved the penalty phase of the
trial.
"While agreeing that Boisson's letter was not a criminal act, the
government tribunal nevertheless ordered the Christian pastor to
[stop expressing his opinion]," Vere reported.
Andreachuk noted that Lund, who brought the complaint, wasn't, in
fact, injured.
"In this case there is no specific individual who can be compensated
as there is no direct victim who has come forward…," she wrote.
However, that did not stop her from ordering the payment anyway.
And as for the future, she wrote:
"Mr. Boissoin and The Concerned Christian Coalition Inc. shall cease
publishing in newspapers, by e-mail, on the radio, in public
speeches, or on the Internet, in future, disparaging remarks about
gays and homosexuals. Further, they shall not and are prohibited from
making disparaging remarks in the future about … Lund or … Lund's
witnesses relating to their involvement in this complaint. Further,
all disparaging remarks versus homosexuals are directed to be removed
from current Web sites and publications of Mr. Boissoin and The
Concerned Christian Coalition Inc," the lawyer opined.
Andreachuk also ordered Boissoin to apologize for the original letter
in the Red Deer Advocate and told the two "offenders" to pay $5,000.
The apology letter, Vere said, "threatens civil liberties in Canada,
according to Ezra Levant, an author and lawyer who himself was
targeted by an HRC attack."
"[The] government now believes that if it can't convince a Christian
pastor that he's wrong, it will just order him to condemn himself?"
Levant wrote on his blog. "Other than tribunals in Stalin's Soviet
Union and Mao's China, where is this Orwellian 'order' considered to
be justice?"
"This is like a Third World jail-house confession – where accused
criminals are forced to sign false statements of guilt," Levant
wrote. "We don't even 'order' murderers to apologize to their
victims' families. Because we know that a forced apology is
meaningless. But not if your point is to degrade Christian pastors."
"In essence, the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal is ordering to the
minister to renounce his Christian faith, since his opposition to
homosexuality is based upon the Judeo-Christian Bible," Vere wrote.
WND reported recently about de Valk, the target of a Human Rights
Commission case over his biblical references regarding homosexuality.
"Father [de Valk] defended the [Catholic] Church's teaching on
marriage during Canada's same-sex 'marriage' debate, quoting
extensively from the Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and
Pope John Paul II's encyclicals. Each of these documents contains
official Catholic teaching. And like millions of other people
throughout the world and the ages – many of whom are non-Catholics
and non-Christians — Father believes that marriage is an exclusive
union between a man and a woman," Vere wrote.
Vere raised the question that Canada now considers morality a "hate
crime."
"If one, because of one's sincerely held moral beliefs, whether it be
Jew, Muslim, Christian, Catholic, opposes the idea of same-sex
marriage in Canada, is that considered 'hate'?" he asked.
Vere wrote that the response he got from Mark van Dusen, a spokesman
for the federal human rights prosecution office, shocked him.
The government agent confirmed the agency investigates complaints but
doesn't set public policy or moral standards. He said the agency job
is to look at the circumstances and decide whether to advance it or
dismiss it.
What is shocking about that, Vere wrote, is the admission that
unjustified complaints can be dismissed, yet the case against de Valk
has continued now for more than six months.
An extended audio recording between Vere and van Dusen is posted on
YouTube.
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Earth to Osho. Who cares about Canada? In the U.S. we have a constitutional right to free speech and to freedom of religion. So your scare tactics are empty. Ever deal in facts? I find facts quite refreshing. Try it sometime.
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It is very telling that Ohso fails to quote extensively from the statements and literature that were found objectionable. Obviously, they went beyond the mere expression of personal or organizational beliefs about the morality of homosexuals and homosexual behavior. The phrase "disparaging remarks versus homosexuals" reveals a lot as to the nature of the speech the provincial tribunal sought to ban.
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Power of Attorneys
While homosexual activists are already claiming victory, pro-marriage allies from across the nation are bolstering the court's case for "staying" the ruling. The attorneys general of nine states, all of whom have a stake in the outcome of the June decision, urged the justices not to instigate same-sex "marriage" until the November election. In a strong showing, the attorneys general of Alaska, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Michigan, Nebraska, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Utah echoed our concern that a premature walk down California's aisle could mean legal bedlam in several states. Unlike Massachusetts, California law allows couples from other states to obtain marriage licenses. If out-of-state couples exchange vows before November, then travel home and sue their home state for recognition, American courts will be tied up for years trying to sort out what was preventable chaos. For the 26 states with marriage protection amendments, homosexual activists face an uphill battle even if the June 16 outcome is favorable to them. Last week, we witnessed the potency of a marriage amendment in Oregon when a federal court threw out a legal challenge to the state's definition of marriage.
On Friday, a Wisconsin court followed with a second blow to same-sex "marriage" by dismissing a lawsuit to overturn the Badger State's marriage amendment. While everyone from Macy's bridal registry to New York Gov. David Paterson (D) is trying to accommodate same-sex weddings, public opinion is still opposed to gay "marriage." On Thursday, the Pew Research Center announced the results of a new poll in which "28 percent of voters view the issue as 'very important' in their decision about who [sic] to vote for in the fall."
Despite cries that the issue is losing traction, Pew's research shows that the resistance to same-sex "marriage" has held steady since 2004. This is certain to trouble most Democrats leading up to the general election, particularly since large pockets of that opposition reside in one of their most reliable voting blocs--black and Hispanic women. As Ben Wattenberg of the American Enterprise Institute says, "...
Democrats always say social issues have gone away and they never do. They [haven't] gone away since 1968."
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Academentia - The Disgrace of Weimar Kalifornia... is nothing more than a pathetic farce of Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex Hate Propaganda - sold at an outrageous price to those who don't mind getting less than their money's worth (meaning the captive body of students), so long as they graduate and get to leave...
The most recent story in the Times about the abysmal preparation for junior college that is the product of our high schools - merely confirms prior reports about the woeful ignorance of college graduates, including those from four year institutions, who if nothing tend to regress during four years of Political Mau Mauing by fact challenged leftist poseurs and bigoted professorial buffoons...
Sooooo... Try renting a copy of the new video - "Indoctrinate U", for just a glimpse of the types of Orwellian Thought Police currently patrolling the hollowed out halls of these all to former educational institutions, now become just another sad parody of South Park's "Death Camp of Tolerance".
Best keep quiet about it though - the Campus Thought Police in the Weimar Kalifornia University System also patrol the community for Ungood Thoughts and take Secret Police Actions against them too, and so we wouldn't want to spread any "Ism-Obia" now would we... What with everything else going around and all...
Ohso.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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So here we are. Because of the extreme reluctance of county counsels to uphold the written constitution and the written statutes, none of the clerks are refusing to issue homosexual "marriage" licenses.
Unlike unchangeable race and gender, changeable homosexual behavior is not supported by people with a strong faith or moral conscience. According to World Magazine, "Near Sacramento, the Sutter County clerk-recorder's office is both issuing licenses and performing ceremonies, albeit with a mainly reluctant staff. Assistant clerk-recorder Cindy MacMillan told WORLD that most of her staff will issue licenses to same-sex couples, but have refused to perform same-sex weddings, saying to do so would violate their rights of conscience. A couple of staffers refuse to do either, MacMillan said: "They want nothing to do with it at all."
3. I wish I were a county supervisor
If I were a county supervisor in one of California's 58 counties, I would be the first to sponsor and lobby other county supervisors to pass the Marriage Protection Ordinance written by Campaign for Children and Families. County supervisors are the bosses of the counties. In pro-family counties, they will earn reelection by championing the Marriage Protection Ordinance, which will prohibit any marriages other than natural, man-woman marriages in their county.
Being a county supervisor is often a "step up" for city councilmembers or a "step down" for former state legislators. But in California's 58 counties, there are principled, pro-family supervisors who want to do the right thing and use their power to protect marriage licenses for a man and a woman. Here's how:
Do you realize what this means? The California marriage statutes have not been changed yet. The California statutes still say marriage is only for a man and a woman, a bride and a groom, in numerous places.
Therefore a county, which is the local issuer of marriage licenses and the local registrar of marriage certificates, may make and enforce a countywide ordinance prohibiting marriage between anyone than a statutorily-qualified man and woman. This ordinance is "not in conflict" with the California statutes, thus it is completely constitutional.
Campaign for Children and Families has written an ordinance that can be passed in any county with the majority vote of three out of five county supervisors. Although your county's risk-averse attorney will oppose it on the grounds that the county will be sued, this spineless philosophy will not persuade a principled, pro-family supervisor.
What is the good effect of passing CCF's Marriage Protection Ordinance in your county?
> You will protect natural marriage for a man and a woman in your county.
> You will send a very strong statewide and even nationwide message that the Constitution and statutes are right and the Supreme Court was wrong to invent homosexual "marriages."
> You will encourage millions of Californians to rise up and pass the California Marriage Amendment in November.
PLEASE TAKE ACTION RIGHT NOW
a) Download the Marriage Protection Ordinance.
b) Seek out moral leaders in your community and ask which county supervisors are moral, pro-family persons, if any.
d) Get his or her advice on the other supervisors' votes you'll need (3 out of 5 supervisors can pass an ordinance), and get busy lobbying those other supervisors to achieve your three necessary votes.
e) Report back to CCF by email or call us with questions at 916-265-5650.
4. I wish I were a judge
If I were on the California Supreme Court or one of the state appellate courts, I would keep my oath to uphold the California Constitution. This means I could not and would not have invented homosexual "marriages." And I could and would have "stayed" this unconstitutional ruling, preventing it from going into effect pending the vote of the people in November.
If I were a Superior Court judge, I would look forward to the chance of enforcing the constitution, the statutes, and the regulations, instead of engaging in political correctness. Having been sworn to uphold the California Constitution, I would never legislate from the bench or claim that I could create new laws, such as homosexual "marriages." I would fully recognize and respect Article III, Section 3, which prohibits judges from making new laws and legislators from judging cases.
So far, there have been attempts to block the unconstitutional same-sex "marriages" at all three court levels, the Supreme Court, the Court of Appeals, and Sacramento Superior Court. The first attempt of Campaign for California Families and Liberty Counsel was rejected on June 4; the second on June 17.
The third attempt was filed on June 16 by five county supervisors and the United States Justice Foundation. This patriotic legal action seeks a statewide injunction against the California Department of Public Health and the Office of Vital Records, which unlawfully changed the marriage forms from "bride" and "groom" to "Party A" and "Party B," without any statutory or regulatory approval.
This legal effort in Sacramento County Superior Court was put together by United States Justice Foundation and Campaign for Children and Families. It's our last and best effort to block these unconstitutional, unlawful "marriages."
At the brief initial hearing on June 17, the judge said he didn't know whether Sacramento or San Francisco is the correct venue for the case. We are telling him that Sacramento is where the respondent is and where the altering of the marriage forms happened, so that's where the hearing should be. If a state agency based in Sacramento breaks the law, the case to hold them accountable should be filed in Sacramento, of course. We hope to be back before the judge next wee
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'Gay' paradise never found
World News Daily.
Every day the major newspapers have heart-rending stories about attractive homosexual couples who waited years to be deemed married by the state that in reality can't sanctify anything as sacred. At the same time, deep within today's newspapers are tragic stories such as the recent report of women in the Gay Pride Parade in Boston who had cut their own bodies to become more like men and the continuing Los Angeles Times story about the two lesbians in California who tortured their young son in unmentionable ways. (** The Times has censored the Dyke Misandry angle for obviousl political reasons)
Not too long ago, these people would be seen as human beings who needed help or intervention. Now, their lifestyle and their self-mutilations are defended as a civil right.
What no one is mentioning, however, is that their gripe is not with the state for withholding or granting temporarily the bogus marriage certificates that signify nothing. It is almost a foregone conclusion that a piece of paper telling them that they're married will not make them happy, nor will any of the other steps on their desperate climb to find paradise. The real issue is that they're searching for happiness in all the wrong places: the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life.
In fact, recent studies have shown that homosexual males and lesbians have more physical and mental illnesses, and lower life spans, than heterosexuals.
For example, a study of clinics in Baltimore revealed that homosexual males contract syphilis, a sexually transmitted disease, at three to four times the rate of their heterosexual counterparts. Even lesbians are at higher risks for STDs and other health problems than heterosexuals.
Furthermore, a study by D. M. Fergusson and other researchers, published in "Archives of General Psychiatry in 1999, found that 78.6 percent of homosexuals compared to only 38.2 percent of heterosexuals had two or more mental disorders. Also, 71.4 percent of homosexuals experience major depression compared to 38.2 percent of heterosexuals. Sixty-seven percent of homosexuals reported suicidal ideation compared to 28 percent of heterosexuals. And, 32.1 percent of homosexuals actually reported a suicide attempt compared to 7.1 percent of heterosexuals.
Contrary to the propaganda of most homosexual activists, a Dutch study by Theodorus G. M. Sandfort in the February 2003 issue of "Archives of Sexual Behavior" found that these mental health problems are not caused by the allegedly "homophobic" culture in which homosexuals often say they live. In fact, homosexual men in the Netherlands, arguably the most pro-homosexual nation in the Western world, reported to Sandfort that their general level of health and mental stability was less positive than heterosexuals, that emotional problems more often interfered with work or other daily activities, that physical health or emotional problems interfered with normal social activities, and that they felt less energetic.
Finally, some studies suggest that the life expectancy of people engaging in repeated homosexual acts is eight to 20 years less than their heterosexual counterparts.
The search for happiness among homosexuals (and many heterosexuals) in today's hedonistic society is premised on an age-old promise that you can be as a god and thus determine in your own short-lived brain what is good and what is evil. However, even when you taste one of the forbidden fruits, you realize the promise that the taste will bring true joy never really delivers, thus exposing the harsh reality that trying to act as a your own god who knows enough to make wise choices is in fact a hollow, intellectually self-mutilating delusion.
For those with some sincere wit and wisdom, the real issue will come down to who is God? Their pursuit of pleasure will lead to a growing battle with the real Almighty who is unassailable. And, the more they struggle in the quicksand of their own desires, the more they will stew in the juice of their own incapacity for happiness. The vast majority will sink. A few will realize that all they have to do is stop struggling and let the real God be God by accepting the love that He wants to give them through the Grace of Jesus Christ, who died and was resurrected to give each and every person on earth forgiveness, healing and eternal life.
World News Daily
21 June 2008
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Men with HIV 'having unsafe sex'
A third of gay men who know they are HIV positive are still having unprotected sex, a study suggests. (BBC News)
The Medical Research Council, which questioned 3,500 gay men, also found 40% of the 300 who tested positive for HIV did not know they were infected.
Dr Lisa Williamson said more sexual risks were taken by men who had been infected with HIV for a long time.
About 2,700 gay men in the UK were diagnosed with HIV in 2006 - double the number a decade earlier.
According to the survey, those who knew they were HIV positive were statistically more likely to have unprotected sex than those who did not.
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**In the Peoples Republik of Weimar Kalifornia - Three of Every Four New Aids Cases is the Direct Result of transmision within the Coprophile Cult of Feces Focused Homo-Anal Perversions. Ohso
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Tantrum Theatrics -
When it comes to the subject of Public Rioting in the streets of the Peoples Republic of Weimar Kalifornia (Der Arnold – Uber Kommandant, Inc.), connoisseurs of such events recognize a variety of style and substance that is reflective of the rich diversity of the state, and the many different ways people here express being really pissed off.
However, as with most things Kalifornia, there tends to be a disconnect between the Riot Styles of Northern and Southern CA, almost as big as any fault line along the San Andreas.
For example, Riots in La La Land (L.A.) tend to reflect the casual approach that is the sunny Southern Kalifornia ‘life-(is-a-beach)-style’. Dress at such affairs is usually optional - as are targets, and the operative notion is that if it is too big to steal then it must be the right size to burn.
By contrast, in the colder Northern climates, where burning houses exposes the public to harsher elements, the choreography of the hyper hissy fit tends to be a little more uniform and the targets more distinct, as befits the demands of stricter fire code enforcement and a tougher media protest market.
Which is not to say that the frisco area media wouldn’t happily interrupt the state of the union address to bring a protest by two winos over the price of muscatel (provided bush is blamed), just that such images haven’t proven the same market draw as the gaudy pyrotechnics of an LA Riot.
The sad fact is that clips of a few scruffy drag queens with bull horns setting fire to a couple of police cars in front of city hall in Sodom by the Sea, just can’t compete with full screen background shots of All Downtown LA Burning – Showing block long shopping malls going up like roman candles while the grinning running masses of Angelinos take ten finger discounts on all available merchandise at the ad hoc fire sale.
One big difference in Riot Profiles between north and south is the role played by Government, including Police agencies. The southland tends to have large sprawling riots with little government organization or focus; and beyond providing the initial blunders needed to facilitate the process, and their police agencies are usually content to charge about for the camera banks like flocks of headless chickens with light bars and sirens.
By contrast, the North likes to get Government Involved in Riot Formation from the beginning, including the original planning and financing with tax funds, as well as scheduling Police / logistical support for the riot in advance. The catch is that the Riot must serve some sort of Political Good (like the Dyke March spreading Ms.Andry – Hatred of Men) in what passes for the ‘progressive’ part of the leftist / radical homosex power structure.
In this respect, the annual government sponsored Frisco anti male hate riot known as the “Dyke March” provides an excellent contrast to the Angelino lazy fare approach. There is Tax funding at the outset; Facilities (Fat Dyke Porta-Potties) are set up early, and Police and Transit agencies are notified and prepared for the “Secret” march route while the Public is kept ignorant of the same route to prevent escape or protests.
I know that some Lurkers, mostly those from less ‘progressive’ climates, wonder about Government Involvement with Sponsoring Hate Crimes against Citizens, and how this can be in a state which allegedly has laws about such things?
Well, the short answer is to look at the Lavender Mafia in what passes for a legislature in Weimar Kalifornia (Sleazy Suzzi Kennedy, Zelda Kuehl, Jackie Goldbarge, $5 Smidgen and krew) and the abject pandering to their agenda of hatreds by the rest of their democrap Ilk, including the rape baiting self loathing male gender feminist attorney general, ole wild bull Lockyer, and others responsible for enforcing Civil Rights Laws.
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Just in case anyone thinks such acts are confined to the axis of evil between Sacratomatoe, Sodom by the Sea, and Berzerkley - consider the following quotes from a recent story (**Same Sex Shoe In 4/28/05 by J. Barker, Sacramento News & Review) about some stars of another propaganda piece (shown on local Public Television – your taxes at work again) pushing the same sex bait and switch scam of ‘marriage’. It involves two Dykes and their ‘family’ and the illegal actions taken by the Fem of the pair to prevent citizens from exercising their First Amendment Rights – in their own homes.
[**The story is accompanied by a heart warming picture of the two dykes and “Their” daughters, with the butch of the pair taking the ‘Bride of Frankenstein’ hairdo to the next level. Actually, it looks like butch got in to a cat fight with a 110 volt A.C. socket, and ‘came out’ a loser, pun intended.]
The story is presented as if it is a source of ‘pride’ for the Government Official protagonist (a dyke hatemonger named Gretchen employed as a “chief fiscal officer for a branch of Yolo County (CA) government.” - Now on the Sacramento Board of Education) to have Broken the Law so egregiously in service of the BAMN (by any means necessary) Dyke Agenda.
Seems that this Dyke Official was driving around town during an election and saw political signs on people’s laws supporting Proposition 22 (the CA Defense of Marriage Act) in 2000, and decided to “Show people the face of prejudice”.
Soooo.. Psycho Dyke then “Jumped out of the car and started pulling signs off the side of the road.” – then took them home and defaced them so that the “Yes” was now “No” – and them “Swapped out the signs on peoples lawns and utility poles.”
Now - If such politically motivated hate crimes had been committed by the ‘forces of evil’ (the bushies), who Trespassed, Stole, and Defaced not just personal property, but Election Material, From Citizens Own Homes…
Well you can bet there would have been some righteous howls for blood of the pig oppressor, and that right now, echoed long and loud in the ‘watchdog’ media. But this, well it was just a case of your friendly neighborhood [bleep] psychodyke government official from the ad hoc committee of lawn police taking empowerment action to: “put the community in a defensive stance rather than an offensive”
Kind of what the Government Sponsored Dyke Riot in Frisco is all about – taking an Offensive stance in the streets and using Bulls on Hogs (er, um, I mean, the Womyn’s Motorcycle Contingent) to chase the hated pigs from the public road.
Talk about progressive government politics, whether you want em or not.
Best keep quiet about it, wouldn’t want to spread any “Ism-Obia”
What with everything else going around and all…
Ohso
"Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The Heresy of Heresies was Common Sense."
George Orwell – 1984 On the Thought Police
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Treasonous Species
Fear not, Gentle Lurkers of the Net, your correspondent senses if not shares some of your distress; and in a gracious humanitarian gesture to his adoring masses (the rest can go stuff it) offers the following placebo as panacea for the ills brought down upon their undeserving brows by the pseudo liberal leftist gender feminist radical homosex power structure, and their Ilk of course…
Can’t forget the Ilk herd now can we, especially as they are needed for much of the raw material to supply the horns for various dilemmas?
Anywayyyyy… Speaking of raw material (and placing womyn’s studies majors aside, for whom any real thinking makes their brains hurt), some of you may have pondered the apparent contradiction if not outright hypocrisy of annual Illegal Government Sponsored San Francisco Dyke Hate Anti Male Hate Riot led by “Separatists” intent on banning all maleness from the public streets; that includes a contingent of Turkey Baster Dykes, AKA “Dykes with tykes” leading the great purple hate parade.
Previous mention of the truly bizarre and scathingly hateful nature of the treatment of young boys by dykes quoted from the anthology titled “Lesbians Raising Sons” (J.Wells 1996) only scratched the surface of the loathing Dyke Separatists have for all things they consider to “exude maleness”, even boys too young to walk or talk. All that is required is proof of a penis and the “little rapist” is already guilty. Hence it must have been quite a little fluff puffing fest at frisco psychodyke central last year, debating if any “little rapists” would be allowed to break the “NO Men in the Public Street” rule of the hate riot, and if so what upper age limit or size (of whatever) was disqualifying.
For example, one story by Ruthann Robson expressed “Post Partum Paranoia” over the “misunderstanding that resulted in this male child.” A similar view is presented by Jess Wells who bemoans her inability to destroy enough male sperm “the male sperm – had been poured down the sink” to prevent the unthinkable shame of a male baby, or as Wells put it: “It was essential that I have a girl… I was profoundly disappointed. I wept. I sobbed… it brought up in me a frightening rage at the patriarchy.”
Yes indeed, a frightening rage at the patriarchy, who were obviously to blame, wherever those guys were hiding...
Meaning of course the evil raping patriarchs who refused to be flushed down the drain during the psychodyke version of a Sadie Hawkins Day swim meet. And yet how fiercely they defend their Right to do as they please with that ‘spitwad of sperm’ (which is the only useful thing they find about men, or as Wells said: “”More insidious, there is a move afoot to regulate access to sperm…”,) including raising boys who’s own sperm carries the same identity (Y-DNA) as that of their father, but who are taught to despise it and their own male identity like good little feminists.
Yet for all their sorrow at their own failure to do the Right Thing (abort the little rapist, and celebrate a victory) dykes who do give birth to boys face their own critics within the “True Separatist” ranks of neo- exterminationist psychodykes. Many bemoan the personal (think malignant narcissm) consequences of association with a “little rapist” and the lost shared separatist sense of dyke coven that comes from shunning the penis in all its evil manifestations, including male babies: “I kept thinking of all the concerts from which we would be excluded, all the radical conferences at which we wouldn’t be welcome, all the women’s land on which we could never live.”
Dykes saddled with tiny penis monsters find that friends leave, including one butch (who gave away all hyr non-womyn cats) and who refuses to enter the other dykes house (where the penis monster is) “because the rooms exuded maleness”; while others want to bar all dykes who “Participate in male energized households.” I suppose that they must have some sort of meter or something to measure the level of maleness exuded by any structure, although I am not sure just how an Ohm Gauge would be fit in to a male energized household. Still, it is a standard of sorts, and goodness knows we have few enough left in these dissolute times. No fair asking why.
But in the end it was the simplest of quotes that gave the deepest of insights in to the Annual, Illegal, Government Sponsored, Tax Funded anti male Dyke Riot and the rabid frothing hind foot thumping neo-exterminationist / separatist hate that fuels it. One dyke summed it up for all, saying the properly righteous feminist response to those who fail to abort the “Little Rapist” when they have a chance, is to brand them forever as not just collaborators, but indeed as a “Traitor to your species”
Just what ‘Species’ of [bleep] Psychodyke Hatemonger these riotously funny Harpies belong to is still a subject for speculation, but then we still have some Turkey Baster 'party time' left until the Next Dyke Hate Riot, and I am sure this will provide ample time for further scientific inquiry.
Quant Stuff!
Best keep quiet about it though, wouldn’t want to spread any “Ism-Obia”... What with everything else going around and all.
Ohso
"Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense." George Orwell – 1984 On the Thought Police
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Dorothy - We're Not in Toto Anymore!
Watching the leader of the Congressional Coprophile Caucus, Barney Frank of Mass, speak recently on Cspan about the "Purists" of his Homosex alliance causing problems with the latest Cannibal Soup 'Pander or Perish' legislation, because it pushed the agenda of the Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex lobby, but Not the associated (some say intertwined) trans-agenda of Self Mutilating Mentally Ill Drag Queens & Kings - was a true exercise in the surreal worthy of a trip to the Land of Oz.
Indeed, in Weimar Kalifornia they take a page from the Wizard of Oz and issue Certificates of femininity to men who do this, like the police commissioner in Sodom by the Sea got from Zelda Kuehl, leader of the Lavender Mafia in a legislative body not fit to pass gas.
Back to Barney Frank, notorious for his exuberant advocacy on behalf of all manner of Feces Focused Homo-Anal Perversions (His former Boyfriend ran a Homo-Anal Prostitution Ring out of Barney's D.C. Home), who certainly seemed hung up on the concept of "Purity" versus Pragmatism during is spiel...
- although how Homo-Anal Men who Amputate their Genitals and Flush them Down the Toilet in order to pretend to have changed into Womyn can be associated with "Purity," is a question left wholly unanswered.
However, for purists aficionados of Radical Homosex Spin Propaganda, it was Barney's extemporaneous summoning of the Great Spirit of DOROTHY to his aid that really made the Old Media parade, when he wondered about his Disappointed Disciples in Drag and whether they had been: watching the "Wizard of Oz" too much. "Nancy Pelosi is not Glenda the good witch," Frank said. "She can't wave her magic wand and make people from all over this country vote however she wants them to vote.
Although the Old Media still spins the "Stonewall" Riot as the foundation of modern homosex activism, they rarely mention the fact that the riot took place amongst a large gathering of drug, alcohol, hormone & hissy fit fueled homo-anal drag queens and prostitutes, immediately after the funeral for Judy Garland in NY.
Judy Garland, and particularly her character Dorothy from Oz, has long held an iconic status amongst certain elements of the Drag / Homo-Anal population that has led them to often being referred to as "The Friends of Dorothy," not because they want to have sex with her - but rather become her. Ahem.
Anywayyyy... One of the truly telling items in the report from the Frisco Crock (the Times seemed rather lacking in coverage) about the amputation of the Drag Caucus from the Rest of the Homosex Lobby in order to push the current bill (and as Frank Says - soon after, a Homosex Military) is the statement by about a Third of Homosex Activists polled "saying sexual orientation and gender identity should not be lumped together."
While there was no break down of the numbers, it is probable that the strongest opposition came from the Dyke / Misandrist Wing Nutz of the lobby, as they are the greatest "Purists" when it comes to Hatred of Men or Anything Associated with Maleness.
Many Dykes feel that while it is admirable for a male to amputate the hated instrument of rape and oppression and properly dispose of it, that still doesn't make them WIMIN or WOMYN as the case may be. These terms are used By and Amongst Dykes in order to remove words relating to the brutish, raping, testosterone poisoned, male pig oppressor Men (wo-men = wo-myn) from their language.
They are often used by the Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist branch of the Dyke Coven as a means of excluding even men enlightened enough to mutilate their normal healthy genitals for a political cause, who no matter what could never become "Wimin Born Wimin"...
Thus, while it is most certainly true that CHINO Nancy Pelosi is Not Glenda the Good Witch, only a Purist could deny that with just a few nips and tucks she could certainly 'Pass' for one of the winged monkey harpies.
Ohso
Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell - 1984 On the Thought Police.
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Click Here: Check out "Gay rights champ Rep. Barney Frank lashes out at critics" Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau October 12, 2007 ...Rep. Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat who is gay, is under ferocious attack from gay rights organizations for his decision to strip transgender people from a long-sought bill to protect gays, lesbians and bisexuals from job discrimination.
Clearly angered by unaccustomed criticism from his most ardent allies, Frank called a press conference Thursday - which coincided with National Coming Out Day - in which he accused gay rights organizations of an all-or-nothing approach that punishes their friends and damages the prospects for future gay-friendly legislation.
Nearly 300 gay rights organizations, including the major legal advocacy organizations, have signed a letter to Pelosi opposing the move to drop transgender people from the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, known as ENDA...
Chris Crain, editor of Gay- NewsWatch.com, said his unscientific Internet poll showed about one-third supporting Frank, one-third supporting gay rights leaders and a third saying sexual orientation and gender identity should not be lumped together.
Fank said Pelosi is the most pro-gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender supporter ever to achieve such power in Washington, and he wondered if gay rights leaders had been watching the "Wizard of Oz" too much.
"Nancy Pelosi is not Glenda the good witch," Frank said. "She can't wave her magic wand and make people from all over this country vote however she wants them to vote.
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CHINO Nancy a 'Devout CFC - Crab Feed Catholic'...
LIke others who maintain their 'membership' in the Catholic Church so as to Attack, Soil and Destroy the institution from the inside (think of Tommy 'Turdpacker' Amiano - Sodom by the Seas worst 'Bendover' comic) - Nancy Pelosi is a great example of the CHINO (Cathoilc In Name Only) nature of the scam.
What better symbol for out Old Media Spinmeisters than a Womyn who trashes the most Valuable and Viable teachings of the Church - and yet who still pretends to be a 'member' of that church - particulary at election time, if not any other.
Talk about having your cake and eating it too...
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Danger is Nancy Pelosi's Middle Name (FRC)
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) spoke on abstinence programs at the uber-liberal "Netroots Nation" blogger conference. The Speaker called abstinence-only programs "dangerous" to America's youth and said that the only solution is to elect more pro-abortion politicians.
She went on to criticize the proposed federal regulations on conscience protections as also being "dangerous" and said that if "you don't like abortion you should love contraception."
Amazingly, she goes on to say she is speaking as both a mother of five and a "devout Catholic," despite the fact that her beliefs on abortion and contraception directly contradict the teachings of her Church.
As a politician, Rep. Pelosi has every right to disagree with her Church's teachings on abortion and contraception, just as doctors, nurses and pharmacists should have every right to live by their respective church teachings and not be forced to perform abortions or distribute drugs that would violate their beliefs.
America does not need more pro-abortion politicians. It needs leaders who respect freedom of conscience.
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YouTube: Nancy Pelosi at Netroots
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Religious Liberty at Risk?
Each time a court rules for homosexual unions, whether full-fledged marriage or something akin to it, the question is raised whether the church and parachurch ministries can continue to reserve their rites and access to their facilities and programs to heterosexual couples.
The question is particularly poignant now for a variety of reasons. Increasingly, legislative bodies and human rights commissions overseas are moving against pastors who speak out against homosexual conduct. U.S. courts are citing foreign cases and practices from liberal nations with increasing frequency.
In addition, the California ruling on May 15, decided by a 4-3 margin, established homosexuals as a "suspect class" for the purpose of analyzing laws affecting them. That means, for all intents and purposes, that "discrimination" against gay sexuality is the equivalent of racial prejudice under California law
Please join us as Seamus Hasson of the Becket Fund, Prof. Chai Feldblum of Georgetown University, Ben Bull of the Alliance Defense Fund, Teresa Stanton Collett of the St. Thomas School of Law, Nathan J. Diament of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations and I discuss this vital issue.
To attend in person, call 1-800-225-4008 or register at our website at www.frc.org. You can also watch a live webcast of the 90-minute presentation by visiting our site and clicking on "Events." With the future of basic freedoms at stake, this is a presentation you won't want to miss.
Panel Discussion on California Same-sex Marriage: The Impact on Religious Liberty
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You are killing me with the long cut and paste jobs. I tried to read some of it. . . but dang!!
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Just checked back in to see how the therapies are going for the pj boy Captain America, the gay homophobes like Soso and others. Unfortunately there are no signs of anyone getting any healthier. In fact since the effectiveness of the therapies is directly proportional to the number of falsities and frequency of entries it is obvious that Soso is going to flame out soon. Or perhaps since it is always in a “flaming hissy fit” like so many healthier self aware queens it has finally started attending one of the many “How to come out in a healthy way clubs” that are popping up all over America.
I wish AFrank and other sane posters here good luck but I fear that their words of wisdom are falling on mostly deaf ears.
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The 21 year old blogging from his parent's basement is voting Democrat because his hates all religion(too out dated), and hates all wealth(something he is incapable of earning) and probably hates every thing he was given and he made use of to live a very comfortable life.
Can you spell L-O-S-E-R?
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California Taxes Go to Sheraton Stays and Pro-Homosexuality Campaign(CRI)
A tax designed to fund early childhood development and anti-smoking programs is funding programs that include a "Multi-Family First Time Camping Experience" that sent San Francisco families to Big Sur, a "Couples Learn and Travel Together" overnight stay at the Four Points Sheraton in Pleasanton, and more. Funding comes from the First 5 California program, which was established in 1998, and puts an extra 50 cent tax on cigarette packs.
These taxes send about $580 million yearly to a state commission and to commissions in California's 58 counties. In addition to the programs above, First 5 is funding a project by the LA Gay and Lesbian Services Center. This project's goals include advocating for "systems/policy change within key social institutions" and a "social marketing campaign designed to shift public opinion regarding acceptance and inclusion of LGBT families" (emphasis added).
The grant for this project, which runs for five years, is nearly half a million dollars from California coffers. Berkeley Professor Bruce Fuller told the San Francisco Chronicle that Californians wanted to help low income children when they approved the cigarette tax with Prop 10. In his view, sending middle class San Franciscans to Big Sur and the Sheraton fails to meet that goal. "I'm sympathetic that we have to figure out ways to hold onto the middle class in San Francisco," he said, but "holding onto the middle class is not a mission of First 5."
California Senator Dave Cox wants to correct this. "Since its inception, First 5 California and its 58 county bureaucracies have been tainted with scandals because they lack accountability," he said in a letter to the Governor. Senator Cox proposed SBX3 16, a bill that would redirect all future Prop 10 revenues to the Healthy Families and Medi-Cal Programs.
This would allow the 200,000 low income children who are currently eligible for Medi-Cal, for example, to be enrolled. Schools would also receive a one time funding boost, because the current budget problems require a lower than expected increase in state funding to schools. To read more about Five 5, visit the Senator's information portal.
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California Democrats Support Communists and Terrorists Teaching in Schools (CRI)
This afternoon the California Assembly debated SB 1322, the bill that will allow Communists to teach in public schools and use government property for their meetings. CRFI has actively opposed the measure as we recognize the inherent danger in allowing Communists-those who seek the violent overthrow of our democratic republic-access to the impressionable minds of young students.
In an attempt to draw attention away from the Communism-accommodating provisions in the bill, author Senator Alan Lowenthal amended the bill to also exempt from government "loyalty oaths" those with religious beliefs opposing such oaths.
Republican legislators also recognize SB 1322's danger and, knowing they could not outright defeat the bill because of their minority status, offered two amendments during floor session.
The amendments, submitted by Assemblymen Martin Garrick and Chuck DeVore, would have required any person or organization seeking use of public school property to sign a "statement of information" declaring they do not advocate the overthrow of our government, and are not part of an extremist terror network. Also, any school employee discovered to be part of an extremist terror network could be fired.
Both sets of amendments were defeated on a party-line vote.
"I am appalled that Democrat lawmakers will not agree to these commonsense amendments," stated Karen England, executive director of CRFI. "My son is currently serving in Iraq to defend our state and nation from terrorists, yet Democrats will not do their part on the homefront to also defend us from such extremists."
"Lawmakers are charged with the duty of defending their citizens from all enemies, foreign and domestic," remarked England. "Yet California Democrats placed their radical political agenda ahead of citizens' safety by refusing to prevent terrorists from teaching in our schools. Citizens should be outraged that these lawmakers are playing political games with our safety."
Lawmakers then moved on to debating SB 1322 itself. The Assembly floor manager, Assemblyman Gene Mullin, argued that Communism is a "failed ideology" and the government should not be allowed to discriminate against Communists.
Assemblyman Todd Spitzer pointed out that Article VI, Section 9 of the California Constitution prohibits the government from employing anyone advocating the overthrow of our government. Yet SB 1322 seeks to supersede the state constitution-without voter approval-and allow the government to employ individuals who want to destroy their employer.
Assemblyman Rick Keene contended that the religious exemption portion of the bill could easily be dealt with in another bill, instead of trying to include it with the other sweeping changes to Communism laws.
"It really is shocking that at a time when America is still subject to attacks from radical terrorists and Communist governments still terrorize their citizens, California Democrats won't stand up for us," commented Meredith Turney, legislative liaison for CRFI. "We have brave soldiers putting their lives on the line every day to defend us from such tyranny, but Democrats will not cast a simple vote to do the same here in California. Democrats are quick to side with the latest political cause championing the rights of the oppressed. With their votes today, Democrats have missed their opportunity to make a statement denouncing oppressive Communist governments responsible for the misery and suffering of so many worldwide."
Read SB 1322
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With nuts like Robot going on and on about how liberals are worse than Usama bin Laden and Josef Stalin, I am glad we don't have silly (or as ohso calls silliness, "common sense") laws allowing teachers to be fired for poorly-defined thought crimes.
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Get it right. I said:
"Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be."
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...seriously believe that, you are delusional.
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to see who is delusional?
Comparison of the "planks" of liberals, and the precepts of Marx
and Engels, demonstrate the danger of Liberalism.
Let's look at the 10 planks:
1. "Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land
to public purposes." Well, we're working on this one. The federal
government owns huge amounts of land and is acquiring more.
Private property rights are being eroded deliberately in the name
of protecting the environment.
2. "A heavy progressive or graduated income tax." Need I say
more? Before Ronald Reagan's tax law changes we had exactly
that and many Americans support the idea of taxing the rich more
than the less-rich.
3. "Abolition of all rights of inheritance." We haven't gone all the
way on that one, but heavy estate taxes are a step in that
direction. Estate taxes are purely punitive because they are taxes
levied on assets on which multiple taxes have already been paid
many times.
4. "Confiscation of the property of emigrants and rebels." Well, our
forefathers confiscated the property of those who supported the
British during the Revolution, and, under the Racketeer Influenced
and Corrupt Organizations Act and other civil statutes, property is
being confiscated right and left in the name of the war on drugs.
5. "Centralization of credit in the hands of the state . . . ." Pretty
much done. See the Federal Reserve Act.
6. "Centralization of the means of communications and transport in
the hands of the state." Seen a private road or bridge lately? Who
licenses all radio and television? Only the First Amendment saves
the print press from federal licensing, but I suspect that hate-
speech laws will soon follow hate-crime laws, and that will erode
that freedom.
7. "Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by
the state . . . ." Well, the government runs many businesses and
some folks would like to see it run more.
8. "Equal obligation to work. Establishment of industrial armies,
especially for agriculture." We've escaped this one mainly, in my
opinion, because of the Second Amendment (the right to own
firearms) and mechanization.
9. "Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries;
gradual abolition of distinction between town and country." Pretty
much done, because big corporations dominate what's left of
agriculture and mass communications have more or less erased
cultural differences.
10. "Free education of all children in public schools. Abolition of
child factory labor in its present form. Combination of education
with industrial production." Done.
Now, you must understand that what communism was driving
toward was not economic nirvana for the people (that was the
advertising) but total power in the hands of the state. How does
that differ from what Liberals are seeking today? Note, for
example, the manifesto does not advocate education for children
per se but education in public schools where, of course, they can
be under the control of and indoctrinated by the state.
The hatred for property and for farmers was based on the
knowledge that people who are economically independent of the
state can assert their political freedom from state control.
Communism is just another form of slavery in which the slave is
provided work, housing, food, education, medical care and
retirement -- but at the price of freedom. Liberals are proposing
that slavery for America, with Liberals as the whip holders.
So who is delusional, people who can see the danger or the people
who pose the danger? Maybe neither is delusional—but one is very
clearly evil.
The evil one would be you screen saver.
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I don't know whose scare tactic rants you have been parroting, but the so-called 'planks' you cite have nothing to do with any "liberals" that I know. Looks like someone else here is delusional as well. Way to go, Claybrain!
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CC is right about the value of the Second Amendment. An armed populace helps maintain a balance of power between us (the people) and our corporate-controlled government that is trying to concentrate power and wealth in the hands of the few.
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Seriously, if you claim not to believe that, you must be a Communist.
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.
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your definition of 'communist' likely includes anyone to the left of Attila the Hun, for you to call me one is laughable.
By the way, are you planning to leave the state after prop. 8 goes down to defeat?
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Action Alert
Schoolchildren don't need 'Gay Day' indoctrination
AB 2567 would allow and pressure California public schools to hold commemorative exercises honoring homosexual activist Harvey Milk and promoting the homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual agenda.
Take action right now. Campaign for Children and Families' Legislative Center will send your message to your elected representatives in Sacramento. Tell them you don't want schoolchildren to be further indoctrinated with homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality.
Act now. AB 2567 is on the floor of the State Senate right now.
Oppose AB 2567
AB 2567 would promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to children as young as kindergarten. There is no definition and no limit to the "suitable commemorative exercises" that AB 2567 would tell schools to have children participate.
Passing this bill will mean more parents remove their children from California public schools, meaning a loss in ADA funds. Please vote no on AB 2567.
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As staunch defenders of traditional marriage, you and I can expect to be dismissed by the media and scoffed at by liberal elites.
What we will not tolerate is an outrageous attempt to change the rules in the middle of the game, using state funds to prejudice voters against the Marriage Amendment.
Last week, Attorney General Jerry Brown suddenly changed the title of Proposition 8, which is mailed to every voter in the state, to say that it would "eliminate" the "right" of "same-sex couples to marry."
The original title couldn't be a clearer or more accurate description of what Proposition 8 actually does: "Amends the California Constitution to provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
As chairman of the ProtectMarriage.com coalition, I will not let this prejudicial language stand. On behalf of the 1.1 million Californians who put Proposition 8 on the ballot, ProtectMarriage.com filed a lawsuit against Jerry Brown to strike this offensive language.
This desperate attempt to suppress the vote highlights what we are up against. With polls showing the Marriage Amendment in strong position for victory, liberals like Jerry Brown will do anything to stop us, including use taxpayer dollars to spread "No on 8" talking points.
You and I must redouble our efforts to get the truth out about Proposition 8. Will you... fight back against Jerry Brown?
And can you help by forwarding this message to all your family and friends?
Independent analysts suggest the ballot title change could count for as much as 10 points in support for Proposition 8. It is clear we will need to dramatically ramp up our efforts to defend against the smears and falsehoods coming from the "No on 8" forces, including possibly from the Attorney General's office on the ballot itself...
Our opposition intends to wage a scorched earth campaign through big media funded by Hollywood, labor unions, and big corporations and supported by the people writing the ballot language. Just take a look at what "No on 8" campaign sent out yesterday about a recent Beverly Hills fundraiser:
"Both labor organizations and businesses made significant contributions to NO on 8 – Equality California on Saturday. The Service Employees International Union (SEIU-California) made a contribution of $500,000, presented by United Healthcare Workers-West President Sal Rosselli. David Sanchez, president of the California Teacher's Association announced a contribution $250,000 on behalf of CTA. Ken McNeely, president of AT&T California, presented a donation of $25,000 from the telecommunications corporation. EQCA supporters at the event also pledged an additional combined $350,000. All of those contributions will help fund the NO on 8 campaign."
That's $1,125,000 from a handful of groups in just one night, plus another $500,000 the "Equality California" group is transferring to the No campaign.
Do you see why we need your help today? The No campaign has the media and possibly the state's ballot writers on their side. We have you. We need your help to fight back.
Very urgently yours,
Ron Prentice
Chairman ProtectMarriage.com
P.S. On the same week that the court will hear our case about Jerry Brown's outrageous and unfair ballot language, liberals pledged nearly $2 million to the "No" campaign at a Beverly Hills fundraiser.
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the nazis persecuted homosexuals in addition to jews, gypsies and other minorities. It would appear that Ohso, Robot, et al are seriously attempting to emulate that pattern of behavior.
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Pink Swastika flies over Weimar Kalifornia
The Truth of the PINK SWASTIKA
It is always a fascinating exercise in Double Think to watch a Radical Homosex activist try to spin the homo-anal pervert permeated nazis as being 'anti homosex', based of all things - on the Propaganda of those same nazi thugs. The Fact is that the nazis were founded by homo-anal perverts such as the Boy Raping Chicken Hawk Ernst Rohm, who recruited the early nazi cadre, including a taking as his personal protégé a syphilitic coprophile and former homo-anal prostitute by the name of Hitler.
A recent L.A. Times article trashing the Slavic Community in Sacramento CA (10/14/06 by Rone Tempest) tried to bias the readers against them by pointing out the fact that one of their local newspapers had actually dared to reprint some passages from the landmark expose of Nazism and its Homosex Roots: The PINK SWASTIKA By Abrams and Lively.
In the Times view, the simple act of referencing one of the most authoritative compilations of the wide range of materials showing the Homosex Founders and Lifestyles of Nazism anywhere, is in itself ample proof of “Ism-Obia”; and one need never so much as open the cover of the book to check the contents further - the Press Has Spoken.
The reality is that authors ranging from William Manchester (“The Arms of Krupp”) to Barbara Tuchman (“The Guns of August”) and a host of others have all extensively documented a pervasive homosexual foundation to German Militarism (most of their uniforms would still pass in a 'leather bar' today) through out its history. The number of young men who were butchered in their wars, so that a relative few butch boy buggerers could strut around in militaristic black leathers is beyond count.
The brutal butcher who was the 'openly gay' homo-anal ephebophile leader of the Storm Troopers (the Brown Shirt thugs who beat the citizens in to submission to the minority nazis) - Ernst Rohm - was only denounced in Official Nazi Propaganda after the murderous power struggle amongst them that resulted in his protégé Hitler winning. It is well documented that among the earliest known Homosex Inmates of the Concentration Camps were the Homo-Anal Storm Troopers remaining loyal to Röhm after his purge.
"The Pink Swastika" also presents important information censored by the media, about the homosex angle on worldwide terrorism, and particularly the problems with the so-called "Warlords" in Afghanistan. The book outlines some of the history of the Homosex / Ephebophile Warrior Cults (such as the spartans, nazis, afghan warlords...) which have plagued this planet for millennia, and how they actually constitute the true "Patriarchy" - but Radical Gender Feminists (aka [bleep]s) and their running dog lackeys who run the media want such information to be censored because it doesn't further hatred of normal men known as Misandry of Ms.Andry.
As has been remarked upon by observers for centuries, in certain Arabic cultures women are considered just vessels for producing children - and sexual focus of the male culture is on buggery of young boys. This is particularly true in certain types of isolated warrior cults, such as is in Afghanistan, and was also true of certain reputedly heterosexual nazis.
For instance, Reinhard Heydrich (the “Butcher of Prague” and the real author of the “Final Solution”) was of this sort - outwardly conforming to heterosex norms, but inside the protective closet of nazi propaganda as rampant a boy-buggering pervert as Rohm ever had been.
Another important book about this era, which covers the almost completely ignored "[bleep]" angle is "Mothers in the Fatherland" by Claudia Koontz. There was even a Female Fuhrer of nazi Germany, her name was Gertrude Scholtz Klink (really - no kidding) and her organization was largely responsible for the treatment of German women in all sorts of special manners by the government. The roots of modern [bleep] politics can be seen quite clearly in the work of these pioneers, particularly the Female Camp Guards, in radical feminist gender hate.
Thus one can clearly see the disdain of the Times for such 'Ungood' books - just full of facts, that nobody should ever read about….
Best keep quiet about it too
Wouldn't want to spread any "Ism-Obia" now would we?
What with everything else going around and all.
Ohso
"Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell - 1984 On the Thought Police.
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Urgent Request Regarding California Senate Bill #777 (AFF)
In July, we sent out an urgent request regarding Senate Bill 777 and the need to find a situation where this law has been applied. As of today, we have not been made aware of any applicable instance, and we’re racing against the clock in order to have our documents prepared before the upcoming hearing.
Please forward this email to everyone on your email list!
As a brief reminder, last fall the California legislature passed Senate Bill 777, signed by Governor Schwarzenegger, thereby redefining the term "gender" for all public schools in California. According to SB 777, you are what you think you are, regardless of your biological make-up.
Further, gender is now a protected classification under California's nondiscrimination laws. Among other tragic consequences, this law will require the girls’ locker room in public schools to be open to any boy claiming to be a girl and vice versa. Our lawsuit seeks to reverse this law and the new definition of "gender” on the grounds that it is unconstitutionally vague and violates the right to privacy guaranteed to all public school children and teachers in the California Constitution.
The State recently filed a motion to dismiss the case. In November, the Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments. We will vigorously oppose this motion, in addition to filing a motion for summary judgment asking the court to rule in our favor and strike down SB 777 as unconstitutional. Click here to read a further summary of the case and to read the actual lawsuit filed by Advocates for Faith and Freedom.
It is important to spread the word in order to find situations where this law has been applied. Do you know any situation where a student or adult in California was forced to share a locker room, restroom, or other private facility with the opposite sex? If you or any of your friends and family have heard of a situation where a student or teacher was negatively affected by the implementation of SB 777, please call 1.888.588.6888 immediately.
A booklet about SB 777, its author, and SB 777’s future impact, if it is not overturned, is available at no charge. If you would like copies of the booklet for yourself or others, please contact Advocates for Faith and Freedom at (888)588-6888.
As we stand at the beginning of a long and difficult battle over the implementation of SB 777, we are extremely grateful to have so many individuals who are committed to standing with us.
Please, remember to forward this email, as well as, obtaining the SB 777 booklet to pass on to all your friends and family members. We need to fully inform the people of California so we can protect our children in the public schools.
Thank you!
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I agree with ohso on this one. Some leering dude can't just slap on some lipstick, call himself a girl, and waltz into the women's locker room to take a gander.
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It's common knowlege that many members of the Nazi party were pillow-biters, but the sodomite activists always try to make opposition to homosexuality the same as Nazi persecution. The degenerate lobby has failed in their attempt to convince people they're normal so they try to make themselves appear to be victims and anyone who opposes their perverted activity Nazis.
A basic knowlege of anatomy will tell a normal person that homosexuality is unnatural.
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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This is very exciting for me 'cause, you see, I'm a clinical psycologist. I've been treating EscapedfromECCC on a different, more patriotic, blog with melon slices and it just might be helping him fight his need to argue with strangers who always disagree with him.
Several of the authors on this blog are very passionate ( not passionate the way a homosexual feels about another homosexual's slot, butt passionate as in how much you love your mother ) about their opinions and want everybody else to realize that they are right (definitely not left). This makes perfect sense. To put your well thought-out opinions into a public forum takes guts, not the semi-girly guts that lesbians have inside their abdomens, but the kind of guts a man can display to the world that proves that his secret desires are not real.
I don't really have much more to add except that I am also a professional donkey racer and one(1) thing that I've learned is that you always have to be nice to your donkey. By the way I'm not married to my donkey. It's not because I don't want to be married to my donkey, I love him very much, but he's already married to a llama named Stanley and they're thinking of adopting a raccoon. Big wet juicy kisses to everyone, Fluffyboy
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THe Censors here have been messing with my ability to post in to threads, even ones I started, which should please the resident Harpies no end..
No End to Harpy Residence in sight either
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orell
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Ohso, I'd like to offer you some melon slices free of charge.
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Shouldn't you be able to get veterinary insurance for your donkey from your employer? It only seems fair, if I can legally get medical insurance for my companion human.
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I am not sure what a "pillow-biter" is, and I'm pretty sure that I don't want to know
Rightwingers are a bigger threat to this Country than al-Qaeda, cancer, illegal immigrants, man-eating sharks, Putin, rogue waves, Ebola virus, sunspots, or Hugo Chávez could ever be.
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Its common knowledge that many members of the republican party are closeted or repressed homosexuals. Some have even been elected to congress. For all we know, Robot is himself one of them. But that does not change the fact that persecution of people on the basis of their sexual orientation is reprehensible and should be condemned, not exhalted as Robot and his ilk seem all too willing to do. So if you seek to emulate the nazis, it should not surprise you that people identify you with them.
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Could you be talking about Idaho's own Larry "wide-stance" Craig?
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California Approves Public Orgy - Folsom Street Fair is Back Again
www.LC.org
The 25th annual homosexual "Folsom Street Fair" is being held on September 28, 2008, in San Francisco, California. This Sunday, criminal activity and sexual perversion will once again fill San Francisco's public streets, with the shameful blessing of Mayor Gavin Newsom, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.
During this annual event, fully nude men walk the public streets engaging some of the vilest acts in broad daylight. Some parents even bring their children! The police simply stand by and watch the illegal behavior. In fact, the San Francisco Police Department will again have a booth at this despicable event.
Liberty Counsel has released a statement calling for the enforcement of the state's decency laws. History has shown that California is a very influential state. If this illegal activity is not stopped, this debauchery may soon come to a town near you. People across this great nation should demand that all decency laws be enforced in California and that violators be prosecuted.
Mayor Newsom, Speaker Pelosi and Gov. Schwarzenegger know about the Folsom Street Fair, but will not try to stop the illegal activity. Even if you are not a California resident, these leaders need to hear from you.
Mayor Gavin Newsom of San Francisco:
Telephone: (415) 554-6141
Fax: (415) 554-6160
Email: gavin.newsom@sfgov.org
Comment page: http://www.sfgov.org/site/mayor_index.asp?id=22018
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco:
Telephone: (202) 225-0100
Comment page: http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger:
Telephone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160
Comment page: http://gov.ca.gov/interact#contact
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AFTAH Confronts San Francisco Mayor Newsom for Welcoming Homosexual Orgies and Public Nudity on City Streets
Are these the Democratic values Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to model to the nation?
San Francisco values in action: another grotesquely evil image from the Official 2008 Folsom Street Fair Program Guide. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who calls herself a faithful Catholic, can’t bring herself to denounce the awful perversions, public nudity and anti-Christian bigotry of the Folsom Street Fair, held every year in her own district.
Americans For Truth News Release
Contact: Andre Traversa: 847-318-6413
NAPERVILLE, Illinois, Sept. 23, 2008 – Americans for Truth (AFTAH) will join other pro-family groups on the steps of the San Francisco City Hall Friday, Sept. 26, to confront Mayor Gavin Newsom for welcoming a sadistic homosexual street fair to the city — featuring hundreds of men walking around fully naked and engaging in public sex acts, as police stand idly by without enforcing decency laws.
The 25th annual “Folsom Street Fair” will be held this Sunday, Sept. 28, in San Francisco. AFTAH President Peter LaBarbera will join other pro-family leaders in pre- and post-Folsom press conferences on the steps of San Francisco City Hall to highlight the public depravities that could only happen in San Francisco – home to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (third in line to be President):
WHAT: Two press events denouncing and exposing the Folsom Street Fair and the politicians who enable it;
WHERE: San Francisco City Hall, 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place, San Francisco
WHEN: Friday, Sept. 26, 11:00 AM – prior to Folsom; and Monday, Sept. 29, 10:00 AM – post-Folsom;
WHO: Peter LaBarbera, AFTAH; Linda Harvey, Mission America; Diane Gramley, American Family Association of Pennsylvania; and Anthony Gonzalez, St. Joseph’s Men’s Society
Said LaBarbera: “Mayor Newsom sent a welcome letter to Folsom participants. When AFTAH published it on our website, Folsom organizers sent a cease-and-desist letter demanding that we take it down. So it appears that either Mayor Newsom or Folsom organizers are not so ‘proud’ of this vile ‘street fair’ after all.”
LaBarbera said most Americans would be stunned to learn what goes on at Folsom under the cover of police protection:
• Rampant public nudity including men walking the streets in nothing but their socks and sneakers;
• Public street orgies in which men engage in heinous sex acts as thousands of fairgoers walk by;
• Public sadistic whippings, acts of “consensual” degradation and “master-and-slave” partners;
• Blatant anti-Christian bigotry – e.g., the “Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence” — transvestite mock “nuns” who work closely with Folsom; and religious-themed “sex toys” sold by vendors.
• Public health hazards: Folsom promotes local gay sex clubs where unsafe, anonymous sodomies (e.g., “barebacking”) occur that spread diseases.
• Police blame their inaction on politicians who tell them not to intervene or enforce the law.
“AFTAH already has gathered video and photo documentation of previous Folsom crimes — including rampant nudity and public orgies — on city streets with children in the crowd. We will be videotaping again Sunday,” LaBarbera said. “Democratic politicians like Newsom, Mark Leno and self-avowed Catholic Nancy Pelosi celebrate or refuse to denounce this event. Are these the Democratic values they want to model to the rest of the nation?”
“If the American public were to discover the despicable acts that are allowed to go on in Speaker Pelosi’s own congressional district — and which she carefully avoids condemning — she’d be sitting at home collecting unemployment rather than being two heartbeats away from the presidency,” he said.
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Coprophile Hissy Fits notwithstanding - we should be seeing 'results' from the Folsom Street 'fair' - fairly soon...
- As in another Spike in Homosex Related STDs (Syphilis is already up 35% amongst the Homo-Anal population - over its previous high rate) - followed by more demands for tax subsidy (whether you call it 'partners' of 'marriage' or just 'Dane Geld') to keep the "Conga Line of Buggery" pumping full steam ahead.
For those who object to funding treatment for preventable diseases eminating from Sodom by the Sea, I refer you to statements by mayor Gravid Nuisance, who said we will all have to pander: "Whether You Like it or Not!"
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Ohso is loading up the boards with his special brand of fertilizer. There are so many entries from Ohso that are full of manure it is getting difficult to shovel it all out of my computer.
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.
--- Laurence J. Peter
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Der Arnold - Uber Pimp of Weimar Kalifornia:
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In California, 'Gay Rights' Now Superior to Everyone Else's Rights
Schwarzenegger signs Democrats' homosexual-bisexual-transsexual bills (www.savecalifornia.com)
Sacramento, California – Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed three bills squashing moral values and religious freedom. By elevating the homosexual-bisexual-transsexual agenda above the rights of everyone else, Schwarzenegger has confirmed his legacy is being the most anti-family Republican governor in California history.
"There is no gay gene, but religious freedom is a God-given right enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. So it's wrong and unfair to create new laws which make homosexual-bisexual-transsexual 'rights' superior to everyone else's rights," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, a leading West Coast family issues organization.
"The words 'discrimination,' 'harassment,' and 'tolerance' have been redefined and are actually resulting in reverse discrimination and intolerance against people with moral values," said Thomasson. "Under these new laws, foster parents, nurses, doctors, health insurance plans, city and county commissions, and court-appointed children's advocates must abandon their moral, social or financial values at the alter of the homosexual-bisexual-transsexual agenda. This crate load of homosexual-bisexual-transsexual laws embodies the same intolerant spirit of the recent California Supreme Court ruling that trampled the religious freedom of doctors at the behest of homosexual 'rights.'"
Among the "LGBT" bills signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger, after being approved by the Democrat-controlled Legislature, are:
• AB 3015 forces foster parents to train foster children to support homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality. The 2000 law upon which AB 3015 is based resulted in homosexual, bisexual and transsexual activism on school campuses from "LGBT" students and teachers. AB 3015 will do the same for foster children, many of whom have already been emotionally damaged by sexual abuse and neglect.
Under the new law, morally-minded foster parents will be trained to teach children in their homes what they themselves believe is a lie. In addition, the bill author says AB 3015 will "ensure that foster youth and their caregivers are knowledgeable about how to report" foster parents and public school teachers who cannot and will not support homosexuality, bisexuality or transsexuality. In other words, under AB 3015, positive and healthy pro-family values on sexual behavior and believing in natural gender can be reported as "harassment."
AB 3015 is based on a 2000 law (AB 537), which, according to the Gay-Straight Alliance Network, broadly and subjectively defines harassment as "conduct based on protected status that is severe or pervasive, which unreasonably disrupts an individual's educational or work environment or that creates a hostile educational or work environment." Therefore, under AB 3015, foster parents who don't allow homosexual, bisexual or transsexual sexual behavior in their own homes, and foster parents and public school teachers who speak against or have values that are perceived to be against homosexuality, bisexuality or transsexuality can be reported to the government to be disciplined or penalized. "The intolerant spirit of AB 3015 essentially means if you have traditional family values, you either need to shut up or stop being a teacher or a foster parent altogether," said Thomasson.
AB 3015 was preceded in 2003 by AB 458, which set the stage for AB 3015 by requiring existing and prospective foster parents to be trained to support homosexual-bisexual-transsexual "rights." AB 3015 passed the California Legislature with Democrats in support, Republicans opposed.
• SB 1729 mandates that nurses be trained to support homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality, despite their deeply-held moral values to the contrary. According to the final Senate floor analysis, SB 1729 "requires all registered nurses, certified nurse assistants, licensed vocational nurses, and physicians working in skilled nursing facilities or congregate living health facilities to participate in a training program focused on preventing and eliminating discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity." In other words, good professional nurses at convalescent homes and assisted-living centers could be disciplined or fired for not attending or not actively participating in these homosexual-bisexual-transsexual training classes, or if on the job they ever speak against homosexuality, bisexuality or transsexuality. SB 1729 passed the California Legislature with Democrats in support, Republicans opposed.
• AB 2654 elevates homosexual-bisexual-transsexual "rights" above moral, religious and family values in the private insurance field and government processes. AB 2654 is one of a package of five bills passed in the last five years by Democrat legislators and signed by Schwarzenegger that applies broad definitions of homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality to all other areas of the law. For example, in Government Code, Section 12926.1, "sexual orientation" is defined as including not just homosexuality but also bisexuality, and, because of Penal Code, Section 422.56, defines "sex" and "gender" as including "a person's gender identity and gender related appearance and behavior whether or not stereotypically associated with the person's assigned sex at birth." As the Democratic Senate floor analysis of AB 2654 disclosed, "In doing so, this bill expands the protected classes in some statutes to encompass those recently added" [i.e. "sexual orientation" and "gender"]. This means AB 2654 essentially completes the homosexual-bisexual-transsexual takeover of government entities and imposes its sexual agenda more fully upon the private sector. AB 2654 passed the California Legislature with Democrats in support, Republicans opposed.
"AB 2654 imposes homosexual-bisexual-transsexual values upon insurance companies, health insurance plans, children's court-appointed representatives, and city and county commissions," said Thomasson. "By misusing the word 'discrimination,' AB 2654 essentially requires these entities to equate homosexual parents with the natural family, equate homosexual 'marriage' with real marriage, and regard homosexual, bisexual and transsexual behavior as good and natural. Especially alarming is how AB 2654 requires HMOs to support homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality at the same rate as much healthier lifestyles, thus raising the eventual cost of insurance for everyone else."
Homosexual Assemblyman John Laird, a Santa Cruz Democrat, has imposed the homosexual-bisexual-transsexual agenda in a multi-year package of bills, completed by AB 2654. His intolerant package of five bills requiring Californians to support homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality includes AB 14 in 2007, AB 2800 in 2006, AB 1400 in 2005, and AB 2900 in 2004. All five of these "LGBT" bills were passed by the Democrat-controlled Legislature and signed by Governor Schwarzenegger.
On Sept. 30, 2008, when the Governor issued his veto of AB 2567, which would have created an official "gay day" in public schools, it did not comfort parents and grandparents who are already deeply concerned about the school sexual indoctrination laws (SB 777 and AB 394) approved last year by Schwarzenegger and the Democrat-controlled California Legislature. The effect of these new laws is to positively promote homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality in all public school instructional materials, activities and programs.
"Does California's government school system promote the homosexual-bisexual-transsexual agenda to children? Yes, because that's the effect of new laws that are steadily changing government schools into hotbeds of sexual indoctrination," said Thomasson. "Parents and grandparents who desire to protect the sexual innocence of their children and grandchildren must seek the sanctuary of home schools and church schools. Visit www.RescueYourChild.org for information on these safe education alternatives."
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Yesterday's campaign finance report from the No on Proposition 8 campaign is startling.
The California Teacher's Association donated $1 million to the campaign. This is in addition to the hundreds of thousands of dollars already pumped in to the campaign by the CTA in the last few months.
Opponents of Proposition 8 claim that it's all lies when we warn that your children will be indoctrinated about same-sex marriage and homosexuality. They claim that you'll be able to opt your child out of class when same-sex marriage is taught or discussed. But we know that the judiciary is actively promoting the homosexual agenda by their overturning Proposition 22 this year.
And case law shows that parents are losing their rights as well.
Last week the US Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal of a father in Massachusetts who tried to opt his kindergarten child out of a classroom discussion about homosexuality. A lower court ruled that parents had no right to be notified when such discussions take place, nor will the children be allowed to opt out of the class.
If this is happening in Massachusetts, where same-sex marriage is legal, it will happen in California.
With the help of the powerful CTA the homosexual agenda will be pushed in every classroom. Parents will be helpless to protect their children-because the government and judiciary have banned them from doing so!
These are not lies, or scare tactics-this is the truth because it's already happening.
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Coprophile Competetion?
Weimar Kalifornia Uber Kommandant and RINO Child Pimp - Der Arnold, Inc., has a rival for spending tax money to pimp schoolkids in the 'gaystate' of MassPandering - as the following from www.Massresistance.org clearly shows:
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Taxpayer funding for homosexual programs in schools:
Six-member conference committee keeps full $850,000 in Mass. FY 2009 budget. Passed overwhelmingly by House and Senate.
Homosexual lobby already bragging about their victory over parents. Massachusetts to lead America in state-funded GLBT activism in schools. July 3, 2008
The six-member joint conference committee -- 4 Democrats and 2 Republicans -- completely ignored pleas from across the state by parents and citizens and kept the full $850,000 in the state budget for hardcore homosexual programs in the public schools. Most of the money will go to directly to the extremely radical Massachusetts Commission on Gay Lesbian Bisexual and Transgender Youth, and the rest will be indirectly funneled to that Commission via the Department of Education...
To our knowledge, no other state in America (or anywhere in the world) funds homosexual activism targeting children to anywhere near this extent.
(*But Weimar Kalifornia is trying to catch Up...)
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Massachusetts Governor degrades self and insults state, marching in depraved homosexual parade. (www.massresistance.org) Very disturbed people playing out serious issues. This is the "gay" movement in Massachusetts. July 2, 2008
It was the "Gay Pride Parade" in downtown Boston. If you had stood across the street from the Massachusetts State House on June 14, 2008 this is what you would have seen coming down the street. Normal people would not do what you're about to see. But this is the essence of the homosexual movement. These people have serious psychological issues.
VIDEO:
Here are 21 minutes of this bizarre public demonstration -- including our Governor -- as they march in front of the State House (and afterwards).
Scroll down and you'll see our governor in the midst of all this. He degraded himself and insulted all of us by participating in this disturbing event.
(More photos and video also to be posted.)
"Queerspawn" are children of homosexual parents. (Imagine holding a sign like this about your parents.) Sadly, there were lots of young people in this parade.
Men dressed as women were throughout the parade. They seemed to love getting their pictures taken. The main thing that goes through your mind is that these are very troubled people.
This is a group that inflicts pain on each other for sexual pleasure. Note the leather lash is their logo. Man on the left is carrying lash with beads that rip your skin.
The star of the "New England Leather Alliance" contingent was "Mr. Northeast Leather Sir." Sir is what you call someone when he's whipping you.
Next came this group, a more extreme para-military version of the leather alliance. According to their web site, the Bay State Marauders were formed in the back room of The Ramrod, a homosexual bar in downtown Boston.
Grand Marshall of the Bay State Marauders. Note the nipple rings and open trousers.
Immediately following, para-military Bay State Marauders marched with a giant black-and-blue flag . . . apparently celebrating the results of their bondage and torture practices.
At left, holding corner of Marauders' flag, black gloves add an interesting touch. At right, riding on the Bacardi Rum float immediately following, these men were simulating homosexual sex acts (see our upcoming video for footage of this).
Then, after the Bay State Marauders and the Bacardi Rum float, marched His Excellency, Governor Deval Patrick and his family.
The Governor marched by, wearing gay pride week button and waving to crowd. He was certainly a media star today!
Walking with the governor was his wife (right) and daughter (in Smith College shirt). Daughter was being cheered for her recent claim that she's now a "lesbian", which was celebrated by the Boston media. We don't want to know what "live united" on wife's gay pride t-shirt is all about.
When the governor saw us he made the "thumbs-up" sign.
Right after the Governor, condoms were being passed out to the crowd. (He even has a condom necklace.) Maybe there's a subliminal message here about what the Governor is doing to the state.
Following the governor came this strange group of women.
What do you suppose is going through this woman's mind?
Then came . . . well . . . these men. Who knows - maybe they're high school teachers or State House staff members during the week. Very disturbed people.
Well, there's a lot here for this "proud trans family" to rise above, that's for sure!
Independent pagans?
Man in robes at far left appears to be their high priest.
On banner: "All acts of love and pleasure are her [pagan goddess's] rituals."
Here is what a parade like this attracts. If the governor is looking for votes, he's come to the right place.
At the festivities following the parade this troubled young man entertained the crowd.
Man in green I-heart-sperm shirt has probably seen it all before, we'd bet.
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The only unhealthy sodomy thats happening is to the PEOPLE of California by our own Government. Arnold wants Californians to BUY Californians out of debt? That HE created?! yea right.
Im not even going to address the other crap spewed by Ohso and the other blathering idiot. I can't even believe these people live in California. Isnt there another closed minded state that might be better suited for you all? Or island? Or??
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perhaps you had a dream once that Arnold created the debt. The state was in a world of crap long before Arnold arrived on the scene. Maybe Arnold himself was broke so he took on the job so he could skim the money he so desperately needed, right? Lets see, he refuses to accept his govenor's pay, he has lost uncounted millions of dollars that he would have made making two or three movies by now, hmmm, what reason would he want California to tank? You are an idiot, period. Arnold is driving the state under? Your stupid a-- special interests are the ones taking it down you fool.
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Denial is More than just a River in Egypt.
The deliberate turning of Both Blind Eyes to the Real Aids Crisis is just another part of the 'Pander or Perish' agenda.
Right Now - In Weimar Kalifornia - as Verified by the U.S. Center for Disease Control:
THREE of Every FOUR NEW AIDS CASES (Many if not most already treatment resistant) are the Direct Result of Transmisson between the Coprophile Cult of Feces Focused H.O.mo-Anal Perversions.
And that is a FACT - No Matter How Fiercely Mau Mau Artistes Denounce those who Report It!
But Censorship - Not Enlightenment is the goal here anywayyy...
Ohso
In a time of unversal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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LOL - riiiiiiiight. Youre ohso credible.
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Each town should have old-fashioned wooden stocks in the village square where people who want to get divorced have to spend a weekend. People may think twice about dissolving their marriages if spending a day or two getting pelted with rotting tomatoes were part of the equation....
People talk about equal right for gays, but what about equal rights for single people? Just because someone's not attractive enough to land a spouse doesn't mean they shouldn't get the financial benefits of marriage.
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Weimar Kalifornia in transition - Dawn of the New 4th Reich?
I have been reviewing the history of the decline of the Weimar German Republic in to the National Homo-Socialist Reich (including a new book about the Boy Raping Ephebophile Ernst Rohm who founded the Nazis), and the parallels are mounting quite rapidly, and dare I say ominously.
Similar to the era of the 1930s I believe that the Deliberate Creation of Economic Chaos (particularly through the vehicle of the Oil Markets) has enriched some, and has influenced Voters and Elections throughout the world - as it was intended to do. When Certain Candidates for powerful office are only electable in response to Economic / Social Crisis, by a frightened electorate more concerned about their pocket books than their liberties, then we have a repeat of the situation in 1933-34 that led to the Totalitarian Homosex Reich of National Socialism.
In Weimar Amerika the knives are drawn for another long night (Anyone who doesn't understand the reference Needs to Read "The Pink Swastika" and watch a History Channel Documentary titled "Night of the Long Knives" - about the post revolutionary power struggle between the various Homosex Factions of the Nazi movement)... And why Square in their Sights for the Next Takeover is the U.S. Military - Which these same interests Desperately Want to Place Homosex Radicals in Charge of...
However, this time it is Not just Homo-Anal Ephebophiles and Drag Queens (like the Nazis) who are to be placed in power to promote their own kind, but even More Importantly - Dykes (Hyper Militant Misandrists - including those who sometimes mimic heterosex foreplay with other womyn) are to be placed in Control as Soon as possible - so as to further prime mission of the new order and Destroy the "Patriarchy."
After all one has got to keep their eyes on the Real Prize, even during an economic stampede. When playing the 'tolerance' scam on the 'vanilla' (clueless voters / taxpayers), using the right mix of victimization driven Tantrum Theater along with Rank Raw Intimidation works as well today as it did for the Homosex Perverts of the Nazi 'SA' (Rohm's Ephebophile Storm Troopers) who led the way to another National Socialist Victory.
Just Remember - like the Good Germyns of a Bygone Era, who learned the hard way that "Arbeit Macht Frei" ('Work Makes you Free' - the Slogan Hung over the Death Camp Gates), so too may be the difficulties associated with coming to terms with the true meaning of the New Slogan of Progress:
Tolerance Macht Frei.
Ohso
Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell 1984 On the Thought Police.
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Wow - Could It Get Any Better for Old Jerry the Pervert / Hatemonger Pimp? Free Publicity just before the election - and No Hard Questions!
For Example - Ole Jerry is an advocate of following the lead of a previous National Ho-mo-Socialist Republic in Weimar Germany, and Destroying the Military by pimping it to the Perverts and Hatemongers pushing the Radical Gender Feminist / Ho-mosex 'Pander or Perish' agenda... Kind of like the Nazi [bleep]sex Hate Machine of the 1930s, only with a Leading Role to be played by Dykes (Hyper Militant Misandrist Male Haters) this time around.
See - Even when Meeting with Veterans - And Although he stands in Solidarity with his good buddy Barney Frank (leader of the Congressional Coprophile Caucus - and friend of Fanny Mae in so many ways) in Pimping the Military Jerry McNerney Completely Ducks these issues in public forums...
- refusing to answer Questions From Veterans such as why he endorses placing young Men under the control of members of the Coprophile Cult of Feces Focused Ho-mo-Anal Perversions, such as was clearly the case during the Ho-mo-Nazi takeover in a previous Weimar era.
Of course the Thought Police know that it would be Ungood of the Old Media to Ask Him about Pandering to these Hatreds and Perversions - when that is their agenda too. So best to keep quiet about it, wouldn't want to spread any "Ism-Obia" now, what with everything else going around and all.
Ohso.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Center for Military Readiness (www.cmrlink.org) - Elaine Donnelly, President, 10/17/08
It is unfortunate that the 2008 presidential candidates and their friends in the media have said very little about military/social issues that will be decided by the next Commander in Chief.
The presidential and vice presidential debates are now over, but not a single question was asked on matters such as gays in the military, women in land combat, or whether young women should be required to register with Selective Service.
That is disappointing, but these issues are not going away. The Center for Military Readiness is an independent, non-partisan public policy organization. We do not endorse candidates, but we do write about military personnel issues of importance to our men and women in the military.
In recent weeks I have written several articles on these issues, and will continue to do so before and after the election on November 4. I thought you might be interested in these four articles, which I wrote for National Review Online’s “The Tank” section so far this month:
October 7 “Slick Strategy on Gays in the Military”
October 15 “McCain Shouldn’t Wobble on Gays in the Military”
October 15 “Candidates, Co-Ed Combat, and Conscription Registration”
October 16 “Plumber Joe and the Culture of Freedom”
I hope you will forward this message to others who might be interested in these issues... Please let me know your thoughts—I hope to hear from you soon.
Elaine Donnelly, www.cmrlink.org
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$42 Billion Dis-Served, And Counting
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(Campaign for Chidren & Families):
While most people are focusing on other things, the Democrats in the California Legislature have been working feverishly to raise your taxes. On Thursday, they voted to impose nearly $11 Billion in new taxes and fees upon the men, women and children of California. Democrat politicians are demonstrating their callous disregard for responsible, hard-working families and a healthy economy.
It's unusual for California legislators to be debating and voting in December. But Governor Schwarzenegger had ordered the mismanaged, Democrat-run Legislature to dig out of the new $18 Billion hole it's created, with a $42 Billion deficit projected by June 2010.
So what are the big-spending Democrats proposing? Raise the sales tax by three-fourths of a cent. Hike the gas tax by 13.5 cents per gallon. Impose a 2.5% "surcharge" on income taxes. more
According to the California Constitution, legislative tax increases can't pass without a two-thirds vote. So Democrats have redefined the taxes as "fees," which require only a majority vote. If the Democrats' sneaky, anti-family plan is approved...
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Ohso has a point. California could slash spending. Too much money is wasted on unproductive people like the elderly, the disabled, prison inmates, the mentally ill, poor children, and sick and injured people. Successful, wealthy, happy people should not have to bear the burden of helping these people out. Heck, we shouldn't even have to look at them. Maybe there should be fenced-in cities (like the Gaza) where we can put all these people, and they can take of themselves. Let them have their own little societies. And here, on the outside, it will be all champagne in crystal goblets!
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Your getting too carried away there son. Ohso makes a valid point. I suppose you enjoy paying more high taxes that the Democratic nannies of Sacramento feel we need to pay right about now to get the state out of its own sewage pit. There's too much pork spending, too much big government created by the overseers of this "once great" and current "has been" state. More taxes on the already struggling citizen is not the answer but as much as you hate it, spending cuts are needed and lower taxes. If you enjoy being a patriotic American answering the call of the Sacramento Mob Machine to do your duty in paying more in taxes then God bless you. There are hard times ahead and the rest of us need more of our money in our pockets than the state does.
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Nobody likes to pay taxes. But we should be thankful for what we’ve got. It is better to make $200,000 and pay $60,000 than it is to make $20,000 and pay $500. If California is going to cut spending, it has to come from somewhere. You talk about “pork” as if there is some magic way to cut the budget that won’t hurt anyone. The cuts will hurt people, and if you want to push for them, you have to be man enough to step over hungry kids in the gutter with rotting teeth and say “F%*$ you, I got mine.” I don’t see legislators of either party talking about big cuts in their salaries, perks, and per diems.
I know lots of rich people, and I wonder whether if they’re spending their money wisely or if they “know better how to spend their money than Sacramento does.” I am not sure that weekly pedicures, courtside tickets, greens fees, new furniture, housing additions, designer suits, weekend vacations, condos in Tahoe, widescreens, private planes, diamond pendants, endless plastic surgery, and call girls are a better way to spend money than school lunches, keeping emergency rooms open, music and art classes, and soup kitchens.
There is a price to pay to maintain a peaceful prosperous society in which money can be made. If we are not willing to pay it, we will end up scrambling to survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland as seen in “Mad Max” or “The Road.”
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Now this is funny - we are on the verge of a "Mad Max" scenario because a school lunch program has a smaller rate of spending growth than the Democrats wanted?
Democrats were fiscally irresponsible with their spending habits and need to be removed from office so they won't continue to do so. They do not need a new checkbook or credit card as a reward. So why are you so eager to give it to them?
The soup kitchen and school lunch argument is always brought out whenever someone makes the "unreasonable" argument that government must live within its means/not spend too much/balance a budget. High taxes/fees/assessments make the state less desirable for job creation/economic growth. That's not something to be thankful for.
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The republican party has become largely irrelevant in California, as is demonstrated by its declining percentage of registered voters and inablility to achieve anything even close to a majority of state legislative and executive elected officials. The republicans have nothing constructive to offer so instead resort to being obstructive. On top of that, they are dishonest and deceitful. It is, as a practical matter, impossible to balance the state budget without bringing in new sources of revenue, yet these jokers block every attempt to find new sources. When pressed to come up with workable alternatives, they propose a budget that slashes spending without offering any ideas for the reform necessary to make such spending cuts possible without decimating the programs that they seek to cut. Taking money away from public education and public health programs is not a solution if the programs in question are not restructured in order to be able to function and deliver the services for which they were designed with the reduced funding being proposed. Public education is a necessity, not a luxury. This is the BIG LIE being perpetrated by the republicans on California, and the reason that the state has all but repudiated its political philosophy.
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What A Waste
Carole ($5 Smidgen) Migden is one of the more notorious Frisco Dyke Hatemongers to befoul the weimar kalifornia legislature (Zelda Kuehl being the Vilest of the Dyke Misandry Lobby) - and now that both are termed out of office...
Unser Uber Kommandant / Hollyweird Homosex Child Pimp - Der Arnold (now facing a $50 Billion Budget Deficit, and growing) has decided to Pimp and Pimp again using tax money, and pay them off for their years of Ms.Andry.
At least there is some justification for appointihng these bigoted Misandrist Hatemongers to a 'Waste' board - given their tireless efforts to indoctrinate the schoolchildren of the state in to 'tolerance' for wallowing in human waste as a homosex 'lifestyle'.
Best keep quiet about it though - wouldn't want to spread any "Ism-Obia" now would we, here at the dawn of the Abomination.
Ohso
In a time of universas deceit, telling the truth is a revollutionary act. George Orwell
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Homosexual legislators get cushy 'jobs' from Schwarzenegger, Democrats (Campaign for Children & Families)
Three aggressive homosexual activists in California have more time and money to attack family values, parental rights, and religious freedom now that they've been appointed to the easiest and highest-paying "jobs" in state government.
John Laird, Sheila Kuehl, and Carole Migden are termed-out homosexual state legislators. Over the last several years they have authored the bulk of intolerant homosexual-bisexual-transsexual laws undermining marriage, trampling religious freedom, and sexually indoctrinating children.
So, as a "good-bye" present, the Democrats that rule the California Senate and California Assembly, along with California's liberal Republican Governor, have appointed these three homosexual activists to very cushy, high-paid positions on the California Integrated Waste Management Board, which meets four days a month and pays $132,178 a year.
For years its been known that this waste board -- which is supposed to supervise landfills, trash disposal, and recycling -- is duplicative of other government services and should thus be eliminated. This latest action by the Democrat politicians and Governor Schwarzenegger demonstrates their addiction to wasting millions of taxpayer dollars and pushing the intolerant homosexual agenda against everyone else.
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It's official: Migden named to waste board (Sacramento Bee)
Arnold Schwarzenegger officially named San Francisco Democrat Carole Migden to a high-paying seat on the state's waste board on Friday. The job pays $132,178 per year...
Migden, who lost her Senate reelection primary to then-Assemblyman Mark Leno in June, is the third ex-lawmaker to land of the lucrative Integrated Waste Management Board in the last two weeks.
The first was ex-Assemblyman John Laird. Then came former Sen. Sheila Kuehl. All three are Democrats. All three also happened to be members of the LGBT caucus.
Migden is a controversial pick after the series of public missteps that helped lead to her electoral deficit in June.
A couple years back, she pressed the vote button of an Assembly Republican for her own legislation.
Earlier this year, she paid a state record $350,000 fine for campaign finance violations.
She pleaded no contest to misdemeanor reckless driving after a 30-mile drive in her state-owned SUV ended in a collision.
And in August, Senate officials sent her staff members home after she was heard berating them from the hallway.
Jim Boren of the Fresno Bee editorial board called the Migden pick "the worst appointment of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's political career."
Schwarzenegger's office, in a written statement, said the idea for the appointment was from newly sworn-in Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg...
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... in the "Sodom" title and early text.
But I would be willing to wager a considerable sum that more "B" and "C" option activities (as well as D, E and F etc.) are engaged-in by heterosexual adventurers than by their same-sex brethren and sisterin.
Are you intent on banning those variations, as well? Because I hear there's a group with similarly fervent desires you might consider. They're pretty well-organized, funded and armed, even -- and they're led by a great 15th-century religious philosopher by the name of Mullah Omar.
Heard of 'em?
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Activities B and C should be legal. Heck, so should D and F. But I would be all in favor of banning E.
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They're all already legal, between (among?) consenting adults -- 'cept E, assuming E to stand for "Ewe." That's bad husbandry.
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I know you people are a bit slow but sex acts between a MAN and a WOMAN are normal.
i.e., a man French kissing a woman, good. A MAN french kissing another MAN, DISGUSTING!
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.
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Uh, robodope? It's none of my business whom you kiss, or how, or how well, or where.
AND vice versa.
PS -- Mulla Omar doesn't run al qaeda -- he runs the Taliban. Try to keep up.
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Now that is really disgusting. Do Robots ever get kissed? Do they dent when they are kissed by another robot? If they french kiss they must rust. And watching two robots go at it, well that would be a riveting experience indeed.
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Protecting our Students Against a New Definition of "Gender" (AFF)
In November, 2007, Advocates for Faith and Freedom took the lead in one of the most critical cases facing our country when we filed a federal lawsuit against California state officials on behalf of the California Education Committee, a project of the California Family Council.
Senate Bill (SB) 777 went into effect in January 2008 and changed the definition of gender in public schools from “what you are biologically” to “what you think you are.” Children are now allowed to self-identify as male or female.
SB 777 was authored by California State Senator Sheila Kuehl. Ms. Kuehl is a member of California Legislative Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Caucus and has not been shy about promoting the homosexual agenda.
Our lawsuit argues that the redefinition of gender should be declared unconstitutionally vague and violates the right to privacy guaranteed in the California Constitution to all public school children and teachers.
Tragically for our children, this law requires the girls’ locker room in public schools to be open to any boy self-identifying as a girl and vice versa. As preposterous as this may sound, it is happening now!
Advocates began searching to find situations where this law had been applied, and we were approached by two students who were affected by the implementation of SB 777 in their public school. It appears their school allowed a female student, who self-identifies as a male, to change clothes in the male locker room.
If you have a child in school right now, Advocates’ fight against SB 777 directly affects you and what your children will be taught in their classes and exposed to outside of the classroom. Advocates is deeply committed to protecting our children and teachers from being subjected to the radical homosexual agenda of Sacramento politicians.
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Hi everybody, I'm back from whatever I was doing and am I sad. I only have one wish for the new year and it is a zinger. I wish that I would be deleted from this idiotic thread because I can't seem to do it myself. I can't believe how [bleep] stupid it is. Delete me or [bleep] shoot me and them everybody who reads this should go outside and kill off their personal dust mites in the sunshine. You all are a bunch of [bleep] well spoken retards. Fluff
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Fluffy's back to bring a little sunshine to this depressing thread! And to add a little [bleepin] humor!
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Post Weimar Kalifornia already Leads the Way in Orweiiian Doubelthink and Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex Misandry... Um, er, uh - 'tolerance'...
Kind of, only different.
Ohso.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Florida Conservatives Fight for Repeal of Transgender Restroom Rule
January 10, 2009 (AP)
YouTube. Ad against Gainesville, Fla. transgender bathroom law shows a scruffy man follow a young girl into a women's restroom.
GAINESVILLE, Fla. — A blond girl heads from a playground into a women's restroom. A scruffy man, lurking outside, darts in behind her. "Your City Commission Made This Legal," the words on the TV screen read.
The dark ad came from opponents of a gender identity provision added last year to the city's anti-discrimination ordinance, which now allows the city's roughly 100 transgender residents to use whichever restroom they're most comfortable using.
Click here to watch the ad.
Foes want to repeal the new protection with a March 24 ballot measure that has divided Gainesville, a generally gay-friendly university city surrounded by staunchly conservative north Florida.
Those who support the transgender protections say their opponents are really unleashing a broader attackl...
The debate is expected to become noisier as the ballot nears with opponents resorting to more TV ads and campaigns pegged to such slogans as "Keep Men out of Women's Restrooms and vice versa."
Organizations defending transgender rights are mustering their own campaign... 108 cities and counties nationwide have similar transgender...
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Self Mutilating - Steroid Abusing - Mentally Ill Dyke Misandrist Drag King... OR, Male Drag Queen who forgot to shave that day???
Now Taking Bets on the 'gender identity' of the taller bearded 'star' of the Florida Stalker Video?
Participants should Auntie Up - Or - Unkle Down.
Ohso.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Well, I have now been watching the History Channel this week and realize that the world is supposed to end on Dec 21, 2012! So , this arguing will soon be over! LOL
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encouraging news Mom, I can hardly wait. I won't be spending lots of money I don't have on Christmas presents that year (-;
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Dirty Don Perata leads the way - in circling the drain in Post Weimar Kalifornia... Ohso
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The California Fair Political Practices Commission enacted a new regulation Thursday banning the kind of political committee fund transfers that former state Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata engaged in recently.
Perata, D-Oakland, just after Election Day moved $1.5 million from his Leadership California committee — which had raised funds ostensibly to recall a state senator and to oppose a legislative redistricting reform ballot measure, among other things —
into his legal defense fund, with which he's battling a years-long FBI corruption probe; he moved another $400,000 in early December...
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Perata still making bank from prison guards' union
By Josh Richman - Oakland Tribune 9/29/09
Oakland mayoral candidate and former state Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata has continued to have a lucrative relationship with the powerful state prison guards' union since he left office in December.
State records show that the California Correctional Peace Officers Association's Truth in American Government, or TAG, Fund paid Perata Consulting $40,000 in the first quarter of 2009; the union's Issues Committee, a separate entity from its government fund, paid Perata Consulting $60,000 in the year's first half. Other records show that Perata Consulting is registered to Nick Perata, Don Perata's son, but communications consultant Jason Kinney said Tuesday that both father and son have an ownership interest in the firm.
The TAG Fund also made a $50,000 civic donation in January to Avalon Village..." The site lists Don Perata as president of Avalon Village's board of directors.
The TAG Fund also paid $22,448.75 in the first quarter of this year to Liquid Logistics...Nick Perata. The association's Issues Fund also paid Liquid Logistics $35,100 in April for mailers.
The TAG Fund has paid $42,269.75 for voter focus group work this year to Sandi Polka, a longtime Perata consultant and confidante...
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For a legislative body truly not fit to pass gas, and 50 Billion in the hole - the drag contingent in sacratomatoe sure likes to try on new cruel shoes - on the taxpayes that is...
Ohso
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Calif. lawmakers and the Prop. 8 backlash
Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 1/25/2009
lThe California Assembly seems to be ignoring passage of Proposition 8.
According to Randy Thomasson of the Campaign for Children and Families, resolutions and bills introduced before the Assembly seem to indicate that passage of the pro-traditional marriage initiative means little in the state capital.
"The homosexual activists never stop claiming to be victims, even when they have an iron stiletto heel upon your neck. They will claim that they are being victimized by you,"
he contends. "They're intolerant, and now they're pushing even more legislation in the California government."
Randy ThomassonProposition 8 protects traditional marriage, but Thomasson says one of the bills indicates activists are ignoring it. "What they're doing is trying to say that homosexuals who even refuse to register as domestic partners...should get all the rights of marriage if there is a death and a property tax issue," he explains.
Two resolutions put the Assembly on record against the outcome of Proposition 8 and recommend that the state Supreme Court overturn it.
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California marriage and adoption wars (Randy Thomasson)
What you can do + how SaveCalifornia.com is representing children in the media... First, the California Supreme Court has scheduled three hours of oral arguments in the Prop. 8 marriage license case for Thursday, March 5.
In response, I'm recommending you do three things:
* If you haven't sent your letter to the justices asking them to uphold Prop. 8, please do so right away.
* On March 5, the media will be there. The homosexual activists will be there. But will there be enough pro-family citizens with tasteful signs to impress the media that more Californians support real marriage than those who don't? To try for a seat in the hearing, you'll need to arrive around 6:30 a.m. or earlier to stand in line. Someone should make "The voters have decided" buttons for people to wear in and outside the courtroom. Bring tasteful signs reading "Marriage = 1 man + 1 woman" and "The voters have decided." Stand outside the courthouse with others in what should be a media zoo with a national TV audience.
* Pray to God for His help, with a humble and repentant attitude.
Second, California's liberal Republican governor and Los Angeles County's Democrat-controlled Board of Supervisors are co-sponsoring a billboard campaign to promote homosexual-bisexual-transsexual adoption of children.
In response, SaveCalifornia.com is speaking out boldly for the best interest of children: to have a married father and mother to care for and nurture them.
In the last day, I've done interviews with City News Service, top L.A. news radio stations KFI and KNX, the Spanish-language leader KMEX Ch. 34, and arranged for KABC Ch. 7 to interview Jesse Lee Peterson's ministry, BOND, which operates a pro-family group home for foster children. View the Channel 7 report
Homosexual adoptions began in California in 1999 when then-Gov. Gray Davis instructed his Dept. of Social Services to start handing infant children over to homosexual couples. This anti-family, anti-child policy was continued without interruption when Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor in 2003. In 2001, the Democrat-controlled California Legislature passed AB 25 to allow homosexual partners to adopt children via a two-step process. These so-called "second-parent adoptions" were upheld by the California Supreme Court in 2003.
Here's Tuesday's news release issued by Campaign for Children and Families, SaveCalifornia.com. It disturbs liberals because it's true:
Sacramento, California -- At the same time that it can't pay its bills or mail tax refunds, California's foolish government is spending time and money on an advertising campaign that invites homosexuals, bisexuals, and transsexuals to adopt children.
The unnatural-family Human Rights Campaign Foundation is partnering with the California Department of Social Services and the County of Los Angeles to sponsor two billboards, one in West Hollywood, and later, another in Alameda County, that encourages homosexuals, bisexuals, and transsexuals to apply to become adoptive parents and bring impressionable children into their homes. The California Department of Social Services is under the lead of openly homosexual director John Wagner, a Human Rights Campaign advisory board member.
"At a time when the state doesn't have enough money to provide hard-working people with their tax refunds, it's a shame that state and county funds are being wasted on this propaganda," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families / SaveCalifornia.com, a leading California statewide pro-family organization.
"God created fathers and mothers so that children could have the best chance at life," said Thomasson. "Studies show that children raised in homosexual and transsexual households are highly likely to experience sexual confusion and to act out homosexually, bisexually and transsexually when they otherwise would not," said Thomasson. "When the facts confirm that children do best with a married father and mother, there is no reason other than selfishness for anyone to advocate placing vulnerable children into these sexually-confused and sexually-charged environments."
In 2001, the University of Southern California conducted a "study of studies" regarding the effect of homosexual parents upon children. "(How) Does the Sexual Orientation of Parents Matter?" by sociology professors Judith Stacey and Timothy Blibarz was published in the American Sociological Review. The researchers found significant differences between homo-parented and hetero-parented children. Among them:
* A significantly greater proportion of young adult children raised by lesbian mothers than those raised by heterosexual mothers say they have experienced sexual intimacy with a partner of the same sex. They were not, however, statistically more likely to identify themselves as gay or lesbian.
* Young girls raised by lesbians are more likely to be sexually adventurous and active than their counterparts raised by heterosexual parents. However the sons of lesbians exhibit "an opposite pattern" and are likely to be less adventurous and active than boys raised by heterosexual households.
* Lesbian mothers reported that their children behave in ways that do not conform to "sex-typed cultural norms." And the sons of lesbians are reportedly less likely to behave in traditionally masculine ways than those raised by heterosexual couples.
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Abortion and Orwell
by Senator Sam Aanestad
"War Is Peace." "Freedom is Slavery." "Ignorance is Strength."
These slogans are spoken in Newspeak, the fictional language of George Orwell's twisted utopia in 1984. By removing meaning from words and increasing state control over speech-and thought-Newspeak is designed to manipulate those who hear it.
In California, Newspeak is now spoken fluently by those who seek to advance a political agenda in healthcare by avoiding scrutiny.
Under the guise of "access to primary care," the Regents of the University of California have been conducting an experiment on women in Concord, Los Angeles and San Diego. Exploiting a pilot project program enacted in 1973 to address a gerontology workforce shortage, Healthcare Workforce Pilot Project (HWPP) #171 allows women seeking medical care to become subjects of social research.
The purpose of this experiment? "Demonstrate the role of advanced practice clinicians in expanding early pregnancy care."
That's Orwellian for "training non-physicians to perform first trimester abortions."
In the pilot project, approved in 2006 without legislative oversight, Planned Parenthood sites in three California cities suspended state regulations to use Nurse Midwives, Nurse Practitioners and Physician Assistants to perform surgical abortions by suction aspiration.
The performance of this procedure by these personnel is prohibited by the Business and Professions Code of the state, the Board of Registered Nursing and the Medical Board of California. HWPP #171 avoids this practice ban in their application to the program by asserting that "the access to early abortion services is an important public health goal."
It is interesting, in the language of distortion, to note the population that is the focus of this public service. Though reporting that abortion rates have risen among poor and low-income women, the program sponsor at the University of California admits that the goal of the pilot project is to expand abortion practice and access, "particularly in underserved areas."
The project director, an attorney, apparently believes that the underserved populations of California- overwhelmingly Latino and African-American-would benefit from even higher rates of abortion: "It will create providers in underserved areas that need them the most----and integrate abortion services into previously existing health care networks."
At least this doublespeak is consistent with the stated goals of Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger: "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." (Woman, Morality, and Birth Control, New York Publishing Company, 1922.)
"The undeniably feebleminded should indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind," she wrote in 1921, the year she founded the organization that became Planned Parenthood.
The sponsor of the "surgical abortion by non- physicians" project, University of California, San Francisco's Bixby Center for Reproductive Health, must have missed the Newspeak memo about renaming abortion "early pregnancy care." They fund research called "The Early Abortion Project."
It's more difficult to convert numbers into Newspeak, as evidenced by the pilot project applications report of the projected three-year cost of the program: $1.3 million. Funding is provided by UC San Francisco, Kaiser Permanente of Northern California, Planned Parenthood Affiliates of California, The David and Lucille Packard Foundation, The John Merck Fund and The Educational Foundation of America.
The taxpayers of California also foot the bill through the grant approval process and oversight provided by the state's Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development. Professional license fees paid by doctors and nurses to the Board of Registered Nursing, the Medical Board of California and the American College of OB/Gyns also fund project review and site visits.
And the ultimate goal of the project couldn't be clearer: "Disseminate our abortion training and utilization model to other faculties and states interested in expanding the pool of primary care abortion providers."
Syme, the loyal Ministry of Truth word replacement specialist in 1984, would have been happy to visit our state in 2009: "It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words."
But not so beautiful when the legislature is deceived by doublespeak, and minority populations are targeted for social engineering. Does anyone care?
Senator Aanestad represents the 4th Senate District and is a member of the California Senate Health Committee
OSHPD's Workforce Pilot Project Programs
"Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health," the organization within UCSF overseeing the project
ANSIRH's "Primary Care Initiative," promoting 1st trimester abortion by non-physicians:
Fact sheet from ANSIRH on "Primary Care Initiative."
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Since all of you are using this site for your therapy I stop by just like any good Samaritan should to see if your mental health has improved. Unfortunately there are many signs of a deteriorating condition observable here in all of the really increasingly unintelligent entries by all of the nom de plums of Soso.
Recommendations....get to you mental health center as quickly as possible before you hurt yourselve(s) or someone else.
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Anyone who thinks two guys packing each other's fudge is normal is the one with the mental health issues.
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Anyone who constantly obsesses with what other guys are doing in the bedroom might be the one with the mental health issues (although I guess latent homosexuality is no longer considered a mental health disorder).
Rightwingers are a bigger threat to this country than elephantiasis, shoe bombers, or the Lord's Resistance Army could ever be.
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If you're a latent fudge-packer I'm sure you can still get counselling for it. Better yet, ask (dis)honesty3 for a date.
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Rock B4 Penguin
Remember Robo - you are dealing with a level of scientific 'enlightenment' that holds two Homosex Penguins trying to Hatch a Rock is also 'natural' - provided it supports Homosex Hate Propaganda that is...
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Can a robot be a latent homosexual? Think about it. Could they secretly want to press their grease into another robot? Do they use lube when they do it? Might they start to skid and slip if they get too amped up or would they short circuit? When they use vibraters do they just plug them into a socket on their side? Wow, robots are so lucky to have all of this available whenever they get an urge.
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Actually, nearly every observed animal species has demonstrated bisexual and homosexual behavior. So it is part of nature's variability, like it or not. And since the same percentage of heterosexual couple as homosexual partners admit to [bleep] intercourse, well that would seem to refute your denial. Doesn't mean you have to do it to be "normal" but you can still be "normal" and do it - just getting to the reality of science. Also just because something is normal doesn't mean you have to embrace it. For example, celebacy isn't "normal" in nature, but most of us wouldn't discriminate against those who make that abnormal choice for whatever their reason.
But to your title: clearly California is not the new Sodom. Sodom wasn't bankrupt and was inhospitable to illegal aliens. California would be the opposite of Sodom.
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Perhaps it is just coincidence but when one sees the name someone selects as a handle to refer to an automaton...well one should never take anything seriously that is robotically spoken or written. sorry I couldn't resist.
Nice to see that you are struggling against the rising tide of ignorance I find here whenever I start checking back in to see how the inmates of the asylum are fairing. Unfortunately I have not seen any signs of enlightenment from any of the regular carps from the radical right wing nut faction. It must be in their DNA their minds were perhaps warped by all of the Rove propaganda they absorbed while transfixed in front of their televisions watching the Faux TV network.
Ten to one if you check their car radios you find all of the station selectors tuned to Rush Limpbrain or one of their favorite evangelical cult leaders telling them to send their dollars in to him for a genuine plastic statue of their savior on a cross with a crown of thorns that actually bleeds when you squeeze it. Come to think of it there is an irony here regarding the fact that they so often call liberals "bleeding hearts". Hmmm.
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"Actually, nearly every observed animal species has demonstrated bisexual and homosexual behavior....."
Which of course, still doesn't make it natural or normal.
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Actually, yes that it exactly what it proves.
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Only if you're a fudge-packer trying to excuse the inexcusable.
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Robot possesses the same mentality that denies the truth of evolution because it puts humans on the same footing as all other animal species, rather than cinferring 'divine' status on them as the fundamentalists, in a blatant exercise in narcissist hubris, assume must have been god's will.
BTW, Robbo, the soviet union has not existed since the last century. Maybe you need to do a better job of keeping up with current events.
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or someone who is capable of logic who doesn't abide abuse of science.
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Sick minded, get a life!! You don't have to word it like this, sounds like your just jealous!!
Grow up!!
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Yes, this is your opinion, but not everyone agrees. I would like to know if anyone knows how old this person is?? I'm sure old enough to know better!! It's really sad that people now days still talk or believe this. You have only one chance to live your life, so make it happy!! As long as you are not hurting anyone or breaking laws, everyone else needs to mind their own business!! What goes on in your own house or bedroom is your own business!! Isn't there other things more important to worry about??
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MANNLICKEN, it's sad that people have now come to accept as normal what is obviously perverted. 20 years ago, few demoncrats would have considered normal.
Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than the Soviet Union ever was and a bigger threat than Al Qaeda will ever be.
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I can remember when conservatives were all about getting government off of people's backs and out of their personal business and private lives. Unfortunately, folks like robot keep making clear their preference for having the government inside everyone's bedrooms, monitoring and passing judgment on their sexual behaviors and other purely private conduct. And just what do you propose as the penalty for engaging in what you label as 'perverted conduct', robot? Death? Life in prison? Castration? Expulsion from the country? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Personally, I think the fudge-packers should be executed.
No, but seriously the last place I want to be is in some fudge-packer's bedroom. They can do pretty much whatever they want EXCEPT CALLLING THEIR PEVERTED UNIONS "MARRIAGE".
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I assume that your reference to 'fudge packers' is intended to refer to people who engage in [bleep] intercourse. This may come as a rude shock to anyone so hopelessly detached from reality as is robot, but there are a lot of heterosexuals who engage in [bleep] intercourse, and actually ENJOY doing so! Are you advocating executing them as well, robot?
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Interesting that when you have no current facts to support your position, you resort to name calling. How childish.
Further, if you want to reach back in time to 20 years ago, why not 200 and when the law made blacks slaves and women were property - why not enslave all blacks now and remove women's right to vote and own property. I mean, we were still the envy of the world and had immigrants lining up to come to the U.S., it must have been normal, right? Or do you only wish to pick and choose the social progress that you personally like? I personally would be much better off 200 years ago, let's move back the dial to that shall we?
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"Interesting that when you have no current facts to support your position, you resort to name calling. How childish."
Interesting that you have no "facts" to refute my position. What you degenerates call "name-calling" is in reality is only calling a spade, a spade.
Homosexuality was perverted and unnatural 20 years ago, 200 years ago and 6000-plus years ago.
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By the same token, slavery was legal 200 years ago and 6000+ years ago AND is supported by the Bible. (It's still legal in large many areas of Africa and the middle east.) So I ask again, why do you get to choose which social "progress" is wrong and right?
Regarding homos, perversion is a matter of law: laws change. It was incorrect for our ancestors to lable something a perversion that is naturally present in animal species. Animal behavior is natural; they don't sacrifice their behavior to social law, i.e. Rosseau's Social Contract. Now, you can call animal behavior brutal, you may not choose to model it, but animal behavior isn't perverted. Generally, one finds that laws eventually retract from behavior that does not directly threaten others; e.g. monogamy is not natural and we have removed the physical and legal penalties for women who commit adultery. We still hold open marriage for those who choose it but no longer punish those who cannot honor those vows. Along those same lines, other sexual behavior has lost it's criminal aspect, and this change is reflected by developed countries around the globe.
We aren't going to agree on this; your argument is emotional, I don't bother with emotional arguments as there is no way for either side to actually debate. As to my point of view: I refuse to single out gays for behavior that straights are not simultaneously held to.
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yo llama,
fyi = Adultury is still ILLEGAL. and punishable by law. and every day verdicts are awarded to men for adulterous behavior of their wives, and vice versa
fyi = "other sexual behavior" still punishible by law in most states.
Google it, learn something, stupid
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"Regarding homos, perversion is a matter of law: laws change. "
Going by your "logic", if bestiality were made legal, it would no longer be perverted.
Wrong is WRONG! There may be few places that have laws against adultery, but that doesn't make adultery right.
Slavery as it was practiced by the ancient Hebrews was different than it was practised during early America and present day Africa.
The Bible had laws on how slaves were to be treated and if I remember right, they had to be freed after seven years, unlkess they wanted to remain slaves. Slaves in those days were either captured in war or were paying off a debt. The Bible forbade kidnapping someone to be given into slavery and slaves weren't to be mistreated.
Regardless, fudge-packing wqas unnatural and perverted then and it's unnatural and perverted now.
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We need to get the legislatures in gear or is that gears to start passing laws concerning whether or not robots should be allowed to do it. You know grease packing each other and lubing each other all over. Ohhhh how exciting it makes me wish I were a robot too. Do they go to a car wash when they are finished?
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Good one. But the machine I'm interested in is Cameron.
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