California: The New Sodom


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In a move that shows their utter contempt for the people of California, Common sense and nature (God) Itself, the California Supreme Court ruled that not allowing same sex couples to “marry” was “unconstitutional.

I’ve said it before and will doubtlessly say it again, a basic knowledge of anatomy will show the average person, queer or not that homosexuality is unnatural and perverted. Nope, as far as human sexual relations go tab “A” doesn’t (or shouldn’t) go into slot “A”.

 

I’ve often said that if homos are allowed to “marry” there will be no reason to keep people from engaging in polygamy or “marrying” animals. Of course the queer lobby scoffs at the obvious conclusion. That is, MOST of the sodomite lobby scoffs at that. There is one notable exception. Frank Kameny, a hero of the queer community wrote to a pro-family group that a person should be able to knock boots (hooves, paws whatever) with an animal if that’s what gets them off. http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66060

Kameny was instrumental in getting the American Psychiatric Association into reclassifying homosexuality as “normal”.

In spite of the victory given to the degenerates by the California Supreme Court, there is a glimmer of hope for the State. Several days ago the California Marriage Protection Act qualified for the November ballot. The initiative needed just under 700,000 signatures and it received over a million. This is a proposed California Constitution Amendment that will state the obvious, that MARRIAGE is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

 

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Have you ever met a guy called Ohso?

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A lot of straight guys like putting tab "A1" into slots "B2" and even "C2." Sometimes they will put tabs "D2a" and "D2b" into slot "B1." Then they put tab "B1" into slot "A2." None of this leads to reproduction, but it all possible, and even common. Are you worried about all that too?

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Ok, only with my wife, when we were younger, and drunk!!!!!!

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assembly instructions on Christmas eve or Algebra. I hate it when you've already put the tab into the slot and realize, whoops!!! this doesn't go there!!  And then it's always stuck. And when you try to pull it out it tears off.  Now the kids are crying that "Daddy broke it"  The wife's mad that I put it in the wrong place to begin.  Now I'm looking for batteries hoping that I can get that other thingy I have to entertain people until I can get this figured out.  

Cowboy I don't know how you could possible do it drunk.

Peas

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ROFLMAO!

 

cowboy1539
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I'm a trained professional... So don't try this at home.

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loved it, 2 thumbs WAAAAY up!!

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I think OHSO and ROBOT have spent toooooo much time together, if you know what I mean???

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Thank god the California Supreme Court had the wisdom and courage to make the right decision in the face of hysterical opposition from rabid bigots like you.

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Thank god the California Supreme Court had the wisdom and courage (to override the will of the people) to make the right decision in the face of hysterical opposition from rabid bigots like you.

Thats what your really saying.

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Obviously you are clueless as to the role that the courts play in American society. Was the will of the people being overridden when the U S Supreme Court ruled against segregation in schools? Most likely, at least in certain parts of the country. Does that mean the court was wrong in doing so? Of course not. It is often said that one of the roles of the judicial system is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Apparently you prefer tyranny to the rule of law. Just think, had it not been for the courts, Al Gore would likely have become president in 2000.

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"Wisdom and courage" of the Court?  What a complete HOOT !    Wisdom to read precedence where there is none?  Courage to invent judgements out of whole cloth?  To write the laws of the State when that is not in there job description?   What it is... is massive huberis and disdain for the people of California.  (you know...the little people "clutching their guns and bibles" so aptly revealing of the mind set of the Left Elite).   At least now these Judges can go to San Francisco cocktail parties and feel all noble and special.

If you want to see true tyranny and HATE (a word you all think you own) watch The homosexual rights mafia threaten and sabotage any effort or confab by former homosexuals.  You may not even know there are ex-homosexuals.   The Gay Activists can't even allow that fact to reach the general public.   And of course the media is an echo chamber for any homosexual affirmation.  Its just the liberal thing to do.   

As to lies...bold face lies... listen to a "Gay Activist" explain (if you can force such a conversation) how ex-homosexuals are 'pretending' or have been browbeaten by evil society into that posture.   Look into the faces of these "Activists" if you want to see unfettered Hate. Am I promoting gays to drop homosexuality?  Wrong.   Am I "homophobic"?  WRONG again.  Nothing here says that.   I am just allegic to BS and fraud...esp. when perpetrated on an entire State.

 

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Obviously you are clueless as to the role that the courts play in American society. Really; the Supreme Leadership of this nation is not the court or the legistlature—it is the will of the people.  

 

Was the will of the people being overridden when the U S Supreme Court ruled against segregation in schools? In the states it occurred in, yes it was—but those states were part of a larger nation that , in the majority, held a different opinion, expressed in out Constitution through the amendment process. The amendment process is the over-riding power to express the will of the people over the opinion of the court. That is precisely what is occuring in California; if an amendment passes that bans gay marriage, the courts will not have the option of overturning it.

 

It is often said that one of the roles of the judicial system is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.  That protection occurs in the Constitution, not the courts. A socialist like you should be opposed to respecting minority rights when they oppose the will of the majority.

I think the proponents of gay marriage have made a huge stategic mistake in this election, the same mistake that cost Al Gore the presidency( it was the votes, not the courts). Democrats never learn, and that is a good thing.

 

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Having been a practicing lawyer in California for over thirty years, I can say with complete accuracy that, as is usually the case, you do not know what you are talking about. The "will of the people" does not decide what is or is not constitutionally protected or prohibited. Those determinations are made by courts and judges, based on established legal precedent, whether you can recognize that as fact or not. The U.S. is not and never has been a pure democracy. It is a constitutional republic and a nation of laws, not of majority rule. And get a clue...it is the courts that interpret and enforce the constitution. Maybe you should spend your summer re-learning the basics of the constitution and the structure of federal and state governments and stop wasting so much time posting all the absurd and false nonsense that you write on these boards.    

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ScreenName pops up again with his usual diatribes.

1. He is a "practicing lawyer for over 30 years"...

2. He refers to "Clayton" as "Claybrain"....

Typical of a liberal - they attack the person rather than the facts.

I definitely wouldn't hire this lawyer for anything - and sure as *** would not recommend him to anyone. Hey, ScreenName - why don't you post your true name and firm so we can have a thoughtful discussion????

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What an air head. so you think peoples votes taken away by an activist judge is right? How would you like it if your vote was taken away? You called me a bigot for having my oppinion, I called you an air head. You need to change air every now and again!

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Just checked back in to see how the therapies are going for the pj boy Captain America, the gay homophobes like Soso and others. Unfortunately there are no signs of anyone getting any healthier. In fact since the effectiveness of the therapies is directly proportional to the number of falsities and frequency of entries it is obvious that Soso is going to flame out soon. Or perhaps since it is always in a “flaming hissy fit” like so many healthier self aware queens it has finally started attending one of the many “How to come out in a healthy way clubs” that are popping up all over America.

I wish AFrank and other sane posters here good luck but I fear that their words of wisdom are falling on mostly deaf ears.

 

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The 21 year old blogging from his parent's basement is voting Democrat because his hates all religion(too out dated), and hates all wealth(something he is incapable of earning) and probably hates every thing he was given and he made use of to live a very comfortable life. 

Can you spell L-O-S-E-R?

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Get it right.  I said:

"Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be."

ScreenName
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...seriously believe that, you are delusional.

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to see who is delusional?

Comparison of the "planks" of liberals, and the precepts of Marx

and Engels, demonstrate the danger of Liberalism.

Let's look at the 10 planks:

1. "Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land

to public purposes." Well, we're working on this one. The federal

government owns huge amounts of land and is acquiring more.

Private property rights are being eroded deliberately in the name

of protecting the environment.

2. "A heavy progressive or graduated income tax." Need I say

more? Before Ronald Reagan's tax law changes we had exactly

that and many Americans support the idea of taxing the rich more

than the less-rich.

3. "Abolition of all rights of inheritance." We haven't gone all the

way on that one, but heavy estate taxes are a step in that

direction. Estate taxes are purely punitive because they are taxes

levied on assets on which multiple taxes have already been paid

many times.

4. "Confiscation of the property of emigrants and rebels." Well, our

forefathers confiscated the property of those who supported the

British during the Revolution, and, under the Racketeer Influenced

and Corrupt Organizations Act and other civil statutes, property is

being confiscated right and left in the name of the war on drugs.

5. "Centralization of credit in the hands of the state . . . ." Pretty

much done. See the Federal Reserve Act.

6. "Centralization of the means of communications and transport in

the hands of the state." Seen a private road or bridge lately? Who

licenses all radio and television? Only the First Amendment saves

the print press from federal licensing, but I suspect that hate-

speech laws will soon follow hate-crime laws, and that will erode

that freedom.

7. "Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by

the state . . . ." Well, the government runs many businesses and

some folks would like to see it run more.

8. "Equal obligation to work. Establishment of industrial armies,

especially for agriculture." We've escaped this one mainly, in my

opinion, because of the Second Amendment (the right to own

firearms) and mechanization.

9. "Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries;

gradual abolition of distinction between town and country." Pretty

much done, because big corporations dominate what's left of

agriculture and mass communications have more or less erased

cultural differences.

10. "Free education of all children in public schools. Abolition of

child factory labor in its present form. Combination of education

with industrial production." Done.

Now, you must understand that what communism was driving

toward was not economic nirvana for the people (that was the

advertising) but total power in the hands of the state. How does

that differ from what Liberals are seeking today? Note, for

example, the manifesto does not advocate education for children

per se but education in public schools where, of course, they can

be under the control of and indoctrinated by the state.

The hatred for property and for farmers was based on the

knowledge that people who are economically independent of the

state can assert their political freedom from state control.

Communism is just another form of slavery in which the slave is

provided work, housing, food, education, medical care and

retirement -- but at the price of freedom. Liberals are proposing

that slavery for America, with Liberals as the whip holders.

So who is delusional, people who can see the danger or the people

who pose the danger? Maybe neither is delusional—but one is very

clearly evil. 

  

The evil one would be you screen saver.

 

 

 

 

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I don't know whose scare tactic rants you have been parroting, but the so-called 'planks' you cite have nothing to do with any "liberals" that I know. Looks like someone else here is delusional as well. Way to go, Claybrain!

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CC is right about the value of the Second Amendment. An armed populace helps maintain a balance of power between us (the people) and our corporate-controlled government that is trying to concentrate power and wealth in the hands of the few.

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Seriously, if you claim not to believe that, you must be a Communist.

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

ScreenName
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your definition of 'communist' likely includes anyone to the left of Attila the Hun, for you to call me one is laughable.  

By the way, are you planning to leave the state after prop. 8 goes down to defeat?

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It's common knowlege that many members of the Nazi party were pillow-biters, but the sodomite activists always try to make opposition to homosexuality the same as Nazi persecution.  The degenerate lobby has failed in their attempt to convince people they're normal so they try to make themselves appear to be victims and anyone who opposes their perverted activity Nazis.

 

A basic knowlege of anatomy will tell a normal person that homosexuality is unnatural.

 

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

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I am not sure what a "pillow-biter" is, and I'm pretty sure that I don't want to know

Rightwingers are a bigger threat to this Country than al-Qaeda, cancer, illegal immigrants, man-eating sharks, Putin, rogue waves, Ebola virus, sunspots, or Hugo Chávez could ever be.

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Its common knowledge that many members of the republican party are closeted or repressed homosexuals. Some have even been elected to congress. For all we know, Robot is himself one of them. But that does not change the fact that persecution of people on the basis of their sexual orientation is reprehensible and should be condemned, not exhalted as Robot and his ilk seem all too willing to do. So if you seek to emulate the nazis, it should not surprise you that people identify you with them.

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Could you be talking about Idaho's own Larry "wide-stance" Craig?

Honesty3
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Ohso is loading up the boards with his special brand of fertilizer. There are so many entries from Ohso that are full of manure it is getting difficult to shovel it all out of my computer.

Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.
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The only unhealthy sodomy thats happening is to the PEOPLE of California by our own Government. Arnold wants Californians to BUY Californians out of debt? That HE created?! yea right.

Im not even going to address the other crap spewed by Ohso and the other blathering idiot. I can't even believe these people live in California. Isnt there another closed minded state that might be better suited for you all? Or island? Or??

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perhaps you had a dream once that Arnold created the debt.  The state was in a world of crap long before Arnold arrived on the scene.  Maybe Arnold himself was broke so he took on the job so he could skim the money he so desperately needed, right?  Lets see, he refuses to accept his govenor's pay, he has lost uncounted millions of dollars that he would have made making two or three movies by now, hmmm, what reason would he want California to tank?  You are an idiot, period.  Arnold is driving the state under?  Your stupid a-- special interests are the ones taking it down you fool.

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I know you people are a bit slow but sex acts between a MAN and a WOMAN are normal.

i.e., a man French kissing a woman, good.  A MAN french kissing another MAN, DISGUSTING!

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

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Uh, robodope?  It's none of my business whom you kiss, or how, or how well, or where.  

AND vice versa.     

PS -- Mulla Omar doesn't run al qaeda -- he runs the Taliban.  Try to keep up.   

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Now that is really disgusting. Do Robots ever get kissed? Do they dent when they are kissed by another robot? If they french kiss they must rust. And watching two robots go at it, well that would be a riveting experience indeed.

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Well, I have now been watching the History Channel this week and realize that the world is supposed to end on Dec 21, 2012! So , this arguing will soon be over! LOL

Jackyankee
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encouraging news Mom, I can hardly wait.  I won't be spending lots of money I don't have on Christmas presents that year (-;

Honesty3
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Since all of you are using this site for your therapy I stop by just like any good Samaritan should to see if your mental health has improved. Unfortunately there are many signs of a deteriorating condition observable here in all of the really increasingly unintelligent entries by all of the nom de plums of Soso.

Recommendations....get to you mental health center as quickly as possible before you hurt yourselve(s) or someone else.

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Anyone who thinks two guys packing each other's fudge is normal is the one with the mental health issues.

 

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

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Anyone who constantly obsesses with what other guys are doing in the bedroom might be the one with the mental health issues (although I guess latent homosexuality is no longer considered a mental health disorder).

Rightwingers are a bigger threat to this country than elephantiasis, shoe bombers, or the Lord's Resistance Army could ever be.

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If you're a latent fudge-packer I'm sure you can still get  counselling for it.  Better yet, ask (dis)honesty3 for a date.

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

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Can a robot be a latent homosexual? Think about it. Could they secretly want to press their grease into another robot? Do they use lube when they do it? Might they start to skid and slip if they get too amped up or would they short circuit? When they use vibraters do they just plug them into a socket on their side? Wow, robots are so lucky to have all of this available whenever they get an urge.

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Actually, nearly every observed animal species has demonstrated bisexual and homosexual behavior. So it is part of nature's variability, like it or not. And since the same percentage of heterosexual couple as homosexual partners admit to [bleep] intercourse, well that would seem to refute your denial. Doesn't mean you have to do it to be "normal" but you can still be "normal" and do it - just getting to the reality of science. Also just because something is normal doesn't mean you have to embrace it. For example, celebacy isn't "normal" in nature, but most of us wouldn't discriminate against those who make that abnormal choice for whatever their reason.

But to your title: clearly California is not the new Sodom. Sodom wasn't bankrupt and was inhospitable to illegal aliens. California would be the opposite of Sodom.

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Perhaps it is just coincidence but when one sees the name someone selects as a handle to refer to an automaton...well one should never take anything seriously that is robotically spoken or written. sorry I couldn't resist.

Nice to see that you are struggling against the rising tide of ignorance I find here whenever I start checking back in to see how the inmates of the asylum are fairing. Unfortunately I have not seen any signs of enlightenment from any of the regular carps from the radical right wing nut faction. It must be in their DNA their minds were perhaps warped by all of the Rove propaganda they absorbed while transfixed in front of their televisions watching the Faux TV network.

Ten to one if you check their car radios you find all of the station selectors tuned to Rush Limpbrain or one of their favorite evangelical cult leaders telling them to send their dollars in to him for a genuine plastic statue of their savior on a cross with a crown of thorns that actually bleeds when you squeeze it. Come to think of it there is an irony here regarding the fact that they so often call liberals "bleeding hearts". Hmmm.

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"Actually, nearly every observed animal species has demonstrated bisexual and homosexual behavior....."

Which of course, still doesn't make it natural or normal.

 

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

AFrank
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Actually, yes that it exactly what it proves.

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Only if you're a fudge-packer trying to excuse the inexcusable.

 

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

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Robot possesses the same mentality that denies the truth of evolution because it puts humans on the same footing as all other animal species, rather than cinferring 'divine' status on them as the fundamentalists, in a blatant exercise in narcissist hubris, assume must have been god's will.

BTW, Robbo, the soviet union has not existed since the last century. Maybe you need to do a better job of keeping up with current events.

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or someone who is capable of logic who doesn't abide abuse of science.

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Sick minded, get a life!! You don't have to word it like this, sounds like your just jealous!!

Grow up!!

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Yes, this is your opinion, but not everyone agrees. I would like to know if anyone knows how old this person is?? I'm sure old enough to know better!! It's really sad that people now days still talk or believe this. You have only one chance to live your life, so make it happy!! As long as you are not hurting anyone or breaking laws, everyone else needs to mind their own business!! What goes on in your own house or bedroom is your own business!! Isn't there other things more important to worry about??

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MANNLICKEN, it's sad that people have now come to accept as normal what is obviously perverted.  20 years ago, few demoncrats would have considered normal.

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than the Soviet Union ever was and a bigger threat than Al Qaeda will ever be.

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I can remember when conservatives were all about getting government off of people's backs and out of their personal business and private lives. Unfortunately, folks like robot keep making clear their preference for having the government inside everyone's bedrooms, monitoring and passing judgment on their sexual behaviors and other purely private conduct. And just what do you propose as the penalty for engaging in what you label as 'perverted conduct', robot? Death? Life in prison? Castration? Expulsion from the country? Inquiring minds want to know!

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Personally, I think the fudge-packers should be executed.

No, but seriously the last place I want to be is in some fudge-packer's bedroom.  They can do pretty much whatever they want EXCEPT CALLLING THEIR PEVERTED UNIONS "MARRIAGE".

 

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

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I assume that your reference to 'fudge packers' is intended to refer to people who engage in [bleep] intercourse. This may come as a rude shock to anyone so hopelessly detached from reality as is robot, but there are a lot of heterosexuals who engage in [bleep] intercourse, and actually ENJOY doing so! Are you advocating executing them as well, robot?

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Interesting that when you have no current facts to support your position, you resort to name calling.  How childish.

Further, if you want to reach back in time to 20 years ago, why not 200 and when the law made blacks slaves and women were property - why not enslave all blacks now and remove women's right to vote and own property.    I mean, we were still the envy of the world and had immigrants lining up to come to the U.S., it must have been normal, right?  Or do you only wish to pick and choose the social progress that you personally like?  I personally would be much better off 200 years ago, let's move back the dial to that shall we?

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"Interesting that when you have no current facts to support your position, you resort to name calling.  How childish."

Interesting that you have no "facts" to refute my position.  What you degenerates call "name-calling" is in reality is only calling a spade, a spade.

 

Homosexuality was perverted and unnatural 20 years ago, 200 years ago and 6000-plus years ago.

 

Liberals are a bigger threat to this Country than Al Qaeda, or the Soviet Union could ever be.

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By the same token, slavery was legal 200 years ago and 6000+ years ago AND is supported by the Bible. (It's still legal in large many areas of Africa and the middle east.)  So I ask again, why do you get to choose which social "progress" is wrong and right?

Regarding homos, perversion is a matter of law: laws change.  It was incorrect for our ancestors to lable something a perversion that is naturally present in animal species.  Animal behavior is natural;  they don't sacrifice their behavior to social law, i.e. Rosseau's Social Contract.  Now, you can call animal behavior brutal, you may not choose to model it, but animal behavior isn't perverted. Generally, one finds that laws eventually retract from behavior that does not directly threaten others; e.g. monogamy is not natural and we have removed the physical and legal penalties for women who commit adultery.  We still hold open marriage for those who choose it but no longer punish those who cannot honor those vows.  Along those same lines, other sexual behavior has lost it's criminal aspect, and this change is reflected by developed countries around the globe.

We aren't going to agree on this; your argument is emotional, I don't bother with emotional arguments as there is no way for either side to actually debate.  As to my point of view: I refuse to single out gays for behavior that straights are not simultaneously held to.

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yo llama,

fyi = Adultury is still ILLEGAL. and punishable by law. and every day verdicts are awarded to men for adulterous behavior of their wives, and vice versa

fyi = "other sexual behavior" still punishible by law in most states.

Google it, learn something, stupid

 

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"Regarding homos, perversion is a matter of law: laws change. "

Going by your "logic", if bestiality were made legal, it would no longer be perverted.

Wrong is WRONG!  There may be few places that have laws against adultery, but that doesn't make adultery right.

Slavery as it was practiced by the ancient Hebrews was different than it was practised during early America and present day Africa.

The Bible had laws on how slaves were to be treated and if I remember right, they had to be freed after seven years, unlkess they wanted to remain slaves.  Slaves in those days were either captured in war or were paying off a debt.  The Bible forbade kidnapping someone to be given into slavery and slaves weren't to be mistreated.

 

Regardless, fudge-packing wqas unnatural and perverted then and it's unnatural and perverted now.

 

 

 

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We need to get the legislatures in gear or is that gears to start passing laws concerning whether or not robots should be allowed to do it. You know grease packing each other and lubing each other all over. Ohhhh how exciting it makes me wish I were a robot too. Do they go to a car wash when they are finished?

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Good one.  But the machine I'm interested in is Cameron.

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Is Cameron another robot? If so does it have a male plug connecter or does it have a female plug in? Is it a hybrid or all electric. I prefer all electric, don't you?

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powerful org's and powerful people = Obama has to do whatever they want, otherwise they drop their support

gurgle gurgle gurgle slurp it up barrack!

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No doubt we are seeing identical homophobic triples here. Homophobic triplets are a new phenomenon created by the evangelicals taking too many pills to stimulate the production of more evangelicals. They are working on a quint homophobic set pill and it will be available soon.

Then Soso/robot can invent two more pseudo logins to agree with its diatribes.

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(dis)honesty you pitiful, demented idiot.

I haven't posted to this message under ANY name for months.

All normal people (and in the case of Osho, some not-quite normal people) see that homosexxuality is unnatural and perverted.

 

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Don't get that rusty unoiled exterior all in a bunch obedient one.

In your definition of normal people everyone except you and Soso (oops you are the same person) would be in concentration camps awaiting execution.

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From an objective perspective

Is it possible to give Ohso his own section? Although, he might want to soften it up just a bit.

I am suggesting this respectfully under the impression that although his topics inject heated issues .....posting periodic older massive threads of this nature pretty much defeats any purpose of interest for the reader.  

Now.....if the idea is to irritate and not communicate or stimulate the mind - then forget my suggestion.

Again, only a suggestion

 

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What kinda bums me out is I started this thread in june of 2008 and Osho has hijacked it.

My opinion hasn't changed about homosexuality being unnatural and degenerate, but I don't ever plan on starting a thread about this topic again.

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LOL- suprise!

All I can say about this noise is I just do what comes natural for me (hetero) and keep it to myself. No parades - no judgements on others - just me.

Only sad thing is that over the years all of my closest friends of my generation went down some different paths and the blurred lines of sexuality have become so intense with subcultures and sub-sub cultures - it is all too complicated for me....and we no longer have anything in common to talk about or do together and our values are a bit different. I don't even understand what they talk about - since I am not "family" (a term they use). Or I say things that are just not PC.

I am no boring stick in the mud either - just need to sail on...and find my peeps (LOL)

They are still wonderful people - wish them the best and will miss them dearly

But my ship has sailed away from rainbows and towards sunsets and sunrises.

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At the risk of again repeating myself, I don't hate te perverts, as long as they keep it to themselves I just recognize their activity as degenerate.

Sure sodomites have been around for thousands of years, so have people who sleep with animals, that doesn't make it right.  Are you suggesting we have a day to honor them and their accomplishments?

Robot

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Since you claim that you do not hate homosexuals, I am sure that you do not oppose granting them the right to be free from arbitrary and capricious discrimination and to enjoy the same rights and privileges as do everyone in what would be considered to be mainstream society. But your comment about people who sleep with animals being given 'a day to honor them and their accomplishments' is rather silly and childish, don't you think? Its even more off the deep end than that comment about liberals and people who condone homosexuality (BTW, no one asked you to condone anything. All you need to do is respect the fact that there are people different from you who have the same rights and freedoms as do you). You really need to elevate the intellectual level of your political discourse if you want people to take your opinions seriously.

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I don't hate sheep, but I don't think human should be able to "marry" them either.  I also think dedicating a day to honor a sexual degenerate and his perverted practices is silly and childish.

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So, in reality, you are a hater. And a silly and childish one at that. You cannot have it both ways. Calling people sexual degenerates and perverts is hatred. Stop being a hypocrite and admit that your position is based on hatred, which makes you nothing more than a bigot.

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In reality, you're a mindless idiot.  Calling a degenerate a a degenerate is just calling a spade a spade.

Funny you should use the term "have it both ways"  Perhaps your "having it both ways" is your problem and why you can't see the truth.

 

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I'm sure people don't "choose" to be attracted to farm animals or young children, that doesn't make it right or a acceptable "lifestyle".

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You really are clueless, aren't you? Perhaps you should try to educate yourself on this issue before you embarrass yourself further.

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I tend to think the title of "clueless" clearly belongs to the person who thinks two guys packing each other's chocolate is perfectly normal.

 

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You use a crude slang term for certain human behavior and don't get censored, but when I used a dry, clinical, anatomically-correct term, I did get [bleeped]. The Times should tell us what phrase we should use.

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What is or is not 'normal' is a matter of one's perception and frame of reference.

What is 'clueless' is taking it upon yourself to dictate to consenting adults what they can do in their own bedrooms and private lives. So much for keeping the government off people's backs and out of their personal affairs. How amazingly hypocritical of right wing nuts like you.  

What also is 'clueless' is comparing private, consensual homosexual conduct to bestiality and/ or child molestation.

In other words, it is you, ROBOT, who is the clueless one here.   

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Federal Judge Vaughn Walker, the judge to whom the trial of the lawsuit challenging prop. (h)8 pending in the Northern District court, has ordered the prop backers to produce and disclose the campaign's internal memos and communications so that the side challenging the proposition can discover whether, and to what extent, the yes campaign was motivated by, and based on, prejudice against gays. This should be a very interesting discovery process, and the contents of the documents that are produced will be very revealing.

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Did anyone else have to wipe off Soso's saliva after reading this idiotic entry? I wonder why Soso gets so very excited when it writes this junk?

As for the infamous Dr. Cameron many people wonder if like Soso he is gay? After all his closest associate at the phony research company he started has already come out several years ago and admitted that he is gay. But enough of that here is what Cameron's associates think of him and what I think of Soso as well;

Anyone who wants to read all about this silly man can do so in Wikipedia. The following is a series of excerpts from Wikipedia regarding Cameron.

 

In 1983, the American Psychological Association expelled Cameron for non-cooperation with an ethics investigation,

Position statements issued by the American Psychological Association and Canadian Psychological Association have accused Cameron of misrepresenting social science research.

Many of Cameron's papers have been published in the journal Psychological Reports; unlike many journals, this charges authors a publication fee and does not necessarily reject an article on the basis of a negative peer review.

In 1984 the Nebraska Psychological Association issued a statement disassociating itself "from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron". In 1986 the American Psychological Association passed a resolution condemning Cameron for "consistent misrepresentation of sociological research". This was based on a report from the ASA's Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, which summarised Cameron's inflammatory statements and commented, "It does not take great analytical abilities to suspect from even a cursory review of Cameron's writings that his claims have almost nothing to do with social science and that social science is used only to cover over another agenda. Very little of his work could find support from even a bad misreading of genuine social science investigation on the subject and some sociologists, such as Alan Bell, have been 'appalled' at the abuse of their work." In 1996, the Board of Directors of the  Canadian Psychological Association approved a position statement disassociating the organisation from Cameron's work on sexuality, stating that he had "consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism".

Cameron has also been criticized for placing responsibility for same-sex child sexual abuse on "homosexuals"; opponents state that someone who carries out such abuse need not have a homosexual orientation with respect to other adults.  Gregory M. Herrek, a psychologist specialising in prejudice against sexual minorities, charges that Cameron misrepresented the literature he had reviewed and cited to support his claims, such as a Groth and Birnbaum (1978) study in which none of the participating child molestors actually identified as homosexuals, and none of those who were bisexual claimed to prefer men over women. Furthermore, while Cameron assumed all the same-sex molestations were perpetrated by homosexuals, he did not assume all the opposite-sex molestations were perpetrated by heterosexuals; he included a "bisexual correction" only for opposite-sex molestations that effectively increased the number of perpetrators described as "homosexual" without changing the number described as "heterosexual".

So there you have it, all of the evidence provided by Soso does not support the weight of a fly speck. Yawn, time to go back to reading more well thought out items.

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MY DADDY IS AN EXOTIC DANCER

One day a fourth-grade teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up — fireman, mechanic, businessman, salesman, doctor, lawyer, and so forth.

However, little Kevin K. was being uncharacteristically quiet, so when the teacher prodded him about his father, he finally replied, ‘Okay…my father’s an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men and they put money in his underwear. Sometimes, if the offer is really good, he will go home with some guy and stay with him all night for money.’

The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some exercises and then took little Kevin K. aside to ask him, ‘Is that really true about your father?’

‘No’, the boy said, ‘He actually works for the Democratic National Committee and helped get Barack Obama elected President last year, but I was too embarrassed to say that in front of the class.’

Obama, Feinstein, Boxer, Miller -

Mainstreaming the Moral Decay of America

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The news media in the Bay Area focuses  on only the views of a few . The gay agenda is very strong and they would have you believe that their deviant views are that of the rest of the state and country. When did the news cover anything that happened in Los Angeles or Monterey for that matter? The news fed to us thru the media are not those of the majority of people. Time to stand up and be just as vocal as those who are deviant.

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Stem Cell Reality Bites California (frc.org)

Back in 2004, Californians passed Proposition 71 to direct $3 billion to embryonic stem cell research (ESCR) and cloning. The people were promised that the investment in embryonic stem cells would lead to cures and huge economic returns for the state.

As Investor's Business Daily notes in an editorial, "Five years later, the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine...is diverting funds from ESCR to research that has produced actual therapies and treatments: adult stem cell research. It not only has treated real people with real results; it also does not come with the moral baggage ESCR does."

Only four of the Institute's 14 recent grants involve embryonic stem cells. According to Alan Trounson, CIRM's director, "If we went 10 years and had no clinical treatments, it would be a failure." That would definitely be the case with embryonic stem cells!

Meanwhile, adult stem cells are helping thousands of patients now. The IBD editorial sums things up well: "It is ESCR researchers who have politicized science and stood in the way of real progress. We are pleased to see California researchers beginning to put science in its rightful place." To see some examples of real science with adult stem cells that are treating real people now, visit FRC's new website to hear true stories from patients.

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I hope in my ignorance I didn't vote for this!! In the past i've voted for things I didn't even bother to research before voting, but now that I'm older I pay more attention. I've learned to read between the lines.

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Barring Politics As Usual

This one didn't get much press coverage - but then the notion that 'our' legal system is run by bigoted radical leftist / gender feminist / homosex insider ideologues...

Is simply taken for granted in post Weimar Kalifornia, and no big news to anyone.

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Schwarzenegger bashes California bar, blocks it from collecting dues. October 12, 2009 Los Angeles Times –

In his veto message, Schwarzenegger cited a recent audit critical of the bar and questioned the group's "impartiality in considering judicial appointments." The July audit found rising costs at the bar and poor internal controls, which allowed a former employee to embezzle nearly $676,000.
"The conduct of the State Bar itself must be above reproach," Schwarzenegger wrote in his veto. "Regrettably, it is not."


Bar President Howard Miller called the veto "regrettable," but also signaled a willingness to work with Schwarzenegger, calling his concerns "legitimate."

"Sometimes organizations suffering from inertia need an external jolt to renew themselves," Miller said. "We regret that it has come in this particular manner."

Part of the dust-up dates to Schwarzenegger's August appointment of conservative former state Sen. Chuck Poochigian (R-Fresno) to the state Court of Appeal. News leaked that that the bar's Commission on Judicial Nominees Evaluation had rated Poochigian as "not qualified," the lowest of four possible rankings, before the governor had even made the appointment. The ranking was supposed to be confidential at the time...

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Governors Veto Message: To the Members of the California State Senate:
I am returning Senate Bill 641 without my signature.
This bill would, among other provisions, authorize the State Bar to collect annual bar dues from its members for 2010.

In 1997, Governor Pete Wilson vetoed the annual State Bar dues bill, citing numerous concerns that the State Bar had become overly political, unresponsive to its membership, and inefficient.

Unfortunately, twelve years later, inefficiencies remain unaddressed and questions about the State Bar’s role in the evaluation of judicial nominees suggest that the State Bar’s political agenda continues.

In July, the State Auditor released a report critical of the State Bar. Among the problems noted by the report: salaries for staff have risen significantly over the past five years; the costs of its disciplinary system have escalated by $12 million from 2004 to 2008 while the number of disciplinary inquiries opened has declined; and a lack of internal controls allowed the embezzlement of nearly $676,000 by a former employee.

As the organization charged with regulating the professional conduct of its members, the conduct of the State Bar itself must be above reproach. Regrettably, it is not.

In addition, recent actions by the State Bar’s Judicial Nominees Evaluation Commission (JNE) also call into question the State Bar’s impartiality in considering judicial appointments. All JNE Commission proceedings are required by law to be confidential andqualification ratings are not to be released to the public prior to the Governor considering an appointment. Unfortunately, recent events have required the State Bar to launch an official inquiry into the confidentiality of such proceedings.

Moreover, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court has recently questioned the reliability of the Commission’s recommendations by noting its failure to follow statutory guidelines when considering judicial nominees.

By failing to follow the law, the JNE Commission has damaged its reputation for impartiality and, in turn, the State Bar’s.

There is no question the State Bar has an essential role in the state’s justice system and must continue to oversee the licensing, education, and discipline of California’s lawyers. However, I am returning this bill without my signature because the State Bar cannot continue with business as usual. It must take the time to reexamine the problems noted by the State Auditor and continue its investigation into the JNE Commission. I urge the State Bar to resolve these issues as soon as possible so the Legislature can reintroduce this measure early next year.

Sincerely, Arnold Schwarzenegger

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They handout condoms in our prisons! the state condones inserting tab a into slot a.your tax dollars at work. also why do you think women wear lipstick? it makes the lips look like a woman`s [bleep] lips in heat,and the cleavage on a woman`s breasts are nature`s way of displaying a woman`s rump at eye level, nature has many examples of these things in the animal world.we are no different. ways nature controls the runaway population growth of any species, desease,war,pestilence,starvation,natural disasters, and homosexuality. Desmond Morris.

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'education' in La La Land - "Ask God What Your Grade Is"

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Christian's speech deemed 'hateful propaganda'

Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 3/9/2010

A Christian student in the Los Angeles Community College District is carrying his free-speech case to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Jonathan Lopez had an assignment in a public speaking class and was required to give an informative speech on any topic. Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) attorney David Hacker tells OneNewsNow that Lopez chose to speak about his Christian beliefs.
"And during that speech, when he mentioned that marriage is between a man and a woman according to his Christian beliefs, the professor called him this horrible name, refused to let him finish the assignment, and told other students in the class, 'If you're offended, you can leave,'" Hacker explains.

David Hacker (ADF)When no students left, the professor dismissed the class. Hacker adds that Lopez is an "A" student -- "but the problem is he never got a grade on that informative speech, and in fact, the professor wrote on his evaluation form, 'Ask God what your grade is.'"

The ADF attorney argues that demonstrates the hostility towards religion on many college campuses. The lower court in Los Angeles issued a preliminary injunction against the school, saying its speech code -- allowing administrators to punish Lopez's "hateful propaganda" -- is unconstitutional. That has been appealed to the Ninth Circuit.

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Gay Gestapo hunts pro-family family counselors in California 3/12/2010 Bryan Fischer - Focal Point

The Gay Gestapo is now bullying pro-family members of the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT), according to communication I received from a conscience-and values-driven therapist in the Golden State.

First, CAMFT signed an amicus brief in the Prop 8 trial, committing the resources of the organization to the view that same-sex marriage is a right and opposition to it invidious discrimination. This obviously tramples on the rights of the many members of CAMFT who believe in the time-honored view that natural marriage should be protected in law and honored in counseling practice.

If that wasn't enough, the executive director of CAMFT has banned, since May of 2009, all articles published in the organization's magazine that defend traditional marriage, labeling them "homophobic."

Worse, some CAMFT attorneys are telling therapists who are defenders of natural marriage that they no longer have the right even to refer out same-sex couples who are requesting couples therapy. This is despite the fact that referring out due to ethical conflicts has long been standard therapeutic practice.

This, of course, tramples on the religious liberties of therapists who have deeply held religious convictions that preclude them from helping same-sex couples improve their non-normative relationships.

And last but hardly least, the homosexual lobby within CAMFT is now pressing the organization to declare that any therapies that seek to help clients with unwanted same-sex attractions are unethical.

This, of course, will force therapists to offer only gay-affirming therapies (or face professional and possibly career-ending censure) and will strand those who would like to pursue change-oriented therapies without professional help.

Helping folks who want to leave the homosexual lifestyle will have to be done outside of a therapist's license, or therapists will have to go underground, which my source tells me many have already done.

The CAMFT board is expected to vote on this last issue - the proposal to declare change-oriented therapies unethical - within the next couple of months. If the bullying and intimidation continues, another huge step in normalizing deviant sexual behavior will have been taken.

A small group of CAMFT members have started a group in response to this latest version of the Spanish Inquisition, called California Therapists Embracing Religious Freedom. You can find them on Facebook at "Therapists Embracing Religious Freedom."

They're outnumbered and have become the target of the kind of relentless hostility that, according to PC codes, is only supposed to exist on the right.

So, as we have often observed, the intolerant bullies, the ones who want to force their values down our throats, turn out to be the ones who claim to be veritable paragons of tolerance and compassion.

it's David versus Goliath in California, and I'm pulling and praying for David.

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