Posted on Mon, 10/06/2008 - 08:59 — by tara1
There is a drug war currently being waged in Mexico that makes what happened in Anbar Province look like a Sunday School picnic. The Mexican prison gangs in THIS country have organized and are attempting to cement their ties and turf IN THIS COUNTRY. That's why MS-13 and other gang signs are appearing on OUR bridges and buildings and families are being killed as a result (San Francisco). Why we allow this to take place in this country makes no sense to me... I'd authorize ICE, various federal departments, and local police to crack down HARD on [bleep]s and their ilk and drive the illegal ones back to their home country. INSTEAD, local police are told not to ask about the immigration status of these people, our hospitals are used as nurseries by their girlfriends and our children are gunned down for wearing the wrong color. America, tired of twiddling your thumbs, yet???
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Those gangs you mention are a U.S. export not a Mexican import. The reason they are in the Central American countries is due to those gang members that were determined to be illegal and were deported and took the gang lifestyle with them.
And as far as prison gangs you might want to mention The Aryan Brotherhood, Nazi Lowriders, Bloods, Crips, and others from all races.
Dont get me wrong all gangs and their members involved in criminal actions need to be dealt with in the strongest possible (legal) manner, but it is not a one race problem.
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I wholeheartedly disagree with your take on the import/export of hispanic gangs.
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They are not a US export. MS13 is salvadorian, is it not? Then they came up to America and now primarily operate out of US jails, Salinas in particular according to the good old discovery channel. How is that a US export? There are gangs in every culture. How about Columbian gangs, Chinese gangs, Italian mafia, Puerto Rican gangs, African "political parties" that are nothing but gangs (RUF for example)? How can you say that these are American Exports?Â
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Now I could be wrong but MS-13 was originally an American gang that formed in Los Angles and spread to El Salvador and Guatemala from deported members. Refer following website.
http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/profiles/ms13/
My remark about "American Export" was in response to a post about Hispanic gangs in the U.S. I also mentioned all other cultures having their own gangs to show that gangs are not just a Hispanic problem
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You are taking this too far, yes there is a drug war going on but this little kid incident has nothing to do with it.  This was a little 16 year old kid that was shot by little wanna be norteno/sureno dummies. They were probably born in the late 80's and know nothing about what they are claiming...lol I doubt that a REAL OG Gangster shot this 16 year old kid in CONCORD in that Northwood Area.
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I don't mean to suggest that this particular incident is DIRECTLY related to the ongoing war between cliques of Nortenos/Surenos, Eme, Nuestra, MS-13. It is, however, PART of the entire culture of gang violence wracking our country today. To filter it out as not part of the "Real" OG culture is kinda lame, to my way of thinking, because the OG "Culture" has been allowed to infiltrate our towns and schools and THIS kind of thing is the result. The kid was shot because he didn't answer a gang challenge correctly. Period.
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Tara, I understand your clarification. I know that all of this is infulenced by real OG gangsters but I still believe that a real OG would not agree with what these little wannabe punks did to that 16 year old kid. These punks just wanted to take advantage of an unprotected and defensless teen all by himself just for bragging rights. They think they are cool now for doing that. But really, they made themselves look like a bunch of wimps.
I think your post regarding the drug wars is true but i just think that it should have been a reply to another article instead of this one. This article just makes me think of little idiot punks in Concord, not Drug Wars.  Have a nice day.
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Garfield, you are glorifying the idea of an "OG gangsta". All that is is someone who went through all the stages of all of these petty crimes up to the not so petty crimes, to attempted murder, to murder, even to hit man status. And that makes him an "OG gangsta".Â
"a real OG would not agree with what these little wannabe punks did to that 16 year old kid."
That's such BS. What makes you think that a "real OG" wouldn't condone, let alone, promote this? Do you live in a world of movies? These kids are the soldiers of the "OG." That's like saying the war lords of Africa don't condone the actions of the children soldiers they themselves doped up and ordered to kill.
It's time you look at what a real gangsta is and stop glorifying it. That is the problem with your scene anyway. You justify the actions of the worst of our society. And yes, presumptiously, I say, it's your scene. You and anyone else trying to glorify criminals and "OG Ganstas".
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You sound like an insecure person. I am not and would never "glorify" the word OG. By reading your post, i know that you have no idea what an "OG" is. lol  Let me get this through your shallow head, OG stands for "Original Gangster" so stop saying "OG GANGSTA". You sound like a WIGGER. These kids are not OG's. And yes, REAL Original Gangsters would NOT approve of what these little punks did to that 16 year old. Maybe if the 16 year old was talking back with gang words, then yes, that would be approved by an OG- (Original Gangster), but not in this case. This case was simply someone getting shot over drugs being sold and bought at that park you dufus. I hope your day gets better.
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Just wanted to point out the fact that you were the one to call them "OG gansters". Lol.
::rolls eyes::
And, I agree with everyone else on here. These wanna-be kids might not be REAL gangsters, but after a while when they've put in their dues if they've survived, they might be recognized as gangsters one day. And everyone who associates with gangs and who does crime in the name of the gang can be considered a part of the drug war... PAWN or not.
...seems like a pretty simple idea to me...
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dude 12am is um too late or early for anyone to be at a park.
where are these kids parents at?
Family values..what values?
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Those hardly exist any longer.
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The cops are being kinda stupid on this kind of thing. They need to set up decoys or ambushes to get the [bleep]s to try the gang culture crap and then just surround the car and/or fill it full of holes. Results not effort.
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They do that. Just because the news doesn't report it doesn't mean it's not happening.