Lets talk EBAL football


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Why not talk about the best football league in Northern California for a while?  

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Anyone following passing league? Any comments? Who is the backup QB at DeLa with Montana transfering to Oaks Christian?

I'll throw a guess out for discussion:

1. De Lasalle

2. SRV

3. Cal

4. Foothill

5. A.V.

6. M.V.

7. Granada

8. Livermore

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1. de la salle

2. cal

3. foothill

4. amador valley

5. srv

6. m.v.

7. granada

8. livermore

question is? will transferring from de la salle become the next big thing in high school football

 

001
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Both of you have MV slated for 6th place. I just can't see that happening. I'll go with:

  1. DLS
  2. SRV
  3. MV
  4. Foothill
  5. Cal
  6. AV
  7. Granada
  8. Livermore
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1. DLS

2. MV

3. Foothill

4. SRV

5. Cal

6. AV

7. Granada

8. Livermore

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8-05-08

SportsFan 1999....I think your predictions for the 2008 season are pretty close....SRV and Calif. lost a lot of weapons while MV and Foothill have  good JV teams to feed off...SRV will be able to fill some emty spots and if Southwick gets the protection, SRV will be hard to beat, i'm not sure how Calif. will do....Foothill has Novato coming up as their second preseason game, so this should be a good yardstick, while MV will have to deal with Pittsburg....DLS is DLS and they will probably run the table with big scores, although I hope not.  Lets hope that the EBAL will make DLS work for their wins ....

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Zack Ertz is definitely the best receiving TE in the league and I understand that their Junior QB is supposed to be good. But w/o a decent running game they aren't going to be in the top three.

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"question is? will transferring from de la salle become the next big thing in high school football"

For high profile athletes who expect the program to be all about them, it probably will.  If your name is Montana, Unitas, Marino or even (God forbid) Favre, you will get the same treatment as everyone else.  If that's not good for you, time to move to LA.

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1. SRV

2. DLS

3. MV

4. Foothill

5. Cal

6. Amador Valley

7. Granada

8. Livermore

Aha! If San Ramon Valley beats De La Salle, I will look like a genius.

 

001
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That's a pretty big IF. But who knows? DLS has lost in the past, and maybe Southwick is the guy to get it done? I'll stick with my prediction of DLS coming in first though.

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Seems like most people see Foothill ranking pretty high and Cal pretty low.  What is the thinking behind this?  Also, who are the stand out players the you all see from each team in the league?  Any one care to predict a pre season MVP?

 

001
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Foothill went up in my book the day that Sweeney decided to come back to coach them.

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Wait a minute, let me check de la salles website.

001
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Sure enough, DLS plays Granada and Livermore to start EBAL play, and then it goes Foothill, AV, MV, SRV, and then Cal. Cal sure has an ambitious preseason schedule, with Las Lomas, San Leandro and a road trip to the team that snapped DLS' streak up in Bellevue Washington.   http://www.calpreps.com/2008/2_East_Bay.htm

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Sweeney is an awesome coach, but I think he's doing Mannion a favor not having to coach his own son! Why is AV rated no higher than 4th in anone's opinon? Top 5 in EBAL should all have a great seaon!! No opinions so far only order of finish? DLS is the obvious favorite, but playing Granada and Livermore than the other top teams all in a row could challenge the Spartans? Anyone agree?

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I think AV came in 4th last season, and DLS will now be in the top spot. I'm sure AV will have a solid team, but in the EBAL there will be a lot of bumps and bruises along the way. If DLS really starts with the 2 Livermore schools and then has the other 5 all in a row, then that could pose a challenge for them. Not that they will lose, but they will have to be on their toes every week in that stretch of games and not looking ahead. They've always been excellent at that, but it could result in some closer games than if they had the Livermore schools embedded in the middle of their schedule. But, both Granada and Livermore should be improved this year, so it is not like those would be like Bye weeks either.

LB050NIT
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NO, HELL NO

EBAL1
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I heard a rumor that AV is changing its offense. Seems like they've been running the Fly for 20 years. Should be interesting to see how the changes work. At least preparing for them won't be as easy for the rest of the league.....

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The way I heard it was a tweeking of the system, not a replacement.  The QB will be in the shotgun 100% of the time to give him more time to do his reads.

As to the final standings, I think almost all of us can agree with the first and last place teams, but after that it gets very muddy.  What impresses me already is the strength of preseason schedule of some of the schools.  I think you can tell how strong the coach thinks his team will be by the non-league strength of schedule.

Cal has San Leandro, Bellveue, and Las Lomas

Foothill has Novato, Logan and Miramonte

Monte Vista has Logan, Pittsburgh and Castro Valley

For that reason alone, these are my teams to finish 2-4, in no particular order. 

 

LB050NIT
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Cal is a weight room team they will be fine. That coach over there is a smart guy though his team will be prepared.

Monte Vista schedule should be challenging for them. But I just dont know.

Foothill should be fine but they have a lot to lose against D 3 opponents.

LB050NIT
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Cal is a weight room team they will be fine. That coach over there is a smart guy though his team will be prepared.

Monte Vista schedule should be challenging for them. But I just dont know.

Foothill should be fine but they have a lot to lose against D 3 opponents.

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8-07-08

Moellerman.....You are right...Cal..Foothill and MV have tough schedules...I see it like this...

Cal will get by all three

Foothill.....won't be able to stop novato, but will top Logan and Miramonte

MV.....If MV plays their brand of football, they should beat all three...The big trouble will be with Pittsburg...They are well armed this year, but if they sputter, the Pirates will loose...

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Do you really think Cal will beat the team from Bellevue up in Seattle at the Seahawks' stadium? They might not be as good as the team that snapped DLS' streak, but neither is Cal. If Cal wins that game (due to their running game), then I think they will win all their games except of course when they play DLS. The MV-Pitt game should be a good one. Both teams lost to both Cal and DLS last season and will have something to prove to begin this season. SRV should be good with Joe Southwick returning at QB, but their LB corps cannot be as good as the studs they had last year, and I think they are back up to D1 for NCS in 2008. Foothill should come back strong with Sweeney at the helm and a returning QB in Mannion. 2nd place in the EBAL is really up for grabs this year. AV will be a factor and Granada is much improved. However, with DLS coming into the league it means an extra regular season loss for everyone and with SRV in D1 it could mean 2 less teams making NCS this year, even though the league is better.

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ESPN has EBAL newcomer DLS rated as the #3 team in the nation entering the season. Their preseason opponent Don Bosco Prep of New Jersey is rated #6, so something has to give early on for one of those teams. Bellevue is not found in their preseason top 50.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3523310

ESPN RISE Fab 50
Rank Team 2007 record Key returning players
1. Trinity (Euless, Texas) 15-1 QB Denarius McGhee (6-3, 180, Sr.); RB Dontrayevous Robinson (6-1, 205, Sr.); OL Cameron Graves (6-2, 265, Sr.); DB Eryon Barnett (6-2, 180, Sr.); LB Earnest Norman (6-0, 215, Sr.); DL Siosaia Tuipulotu (6-2, 280, Sr.)
2. Lowndes (Valdosta, Ga.) 14-1 RB Greg Reid (5-9, 175, Sr.); DB Gerald Demps (6-1, 195, Sr.); QB Khary Franklin (5-6, 165, Jr.); WR Darius Howell (5-11, 190, Sr.); TE Jordan Black (6-4, 250, Jr.)
3. De La Salle (Concord, Calif.) 13-0 RB Kylan Butler (5-8, 180, Sr.); QB Blake Wayne (5-10, 170, Sr.); WR-DB Noah Perio (5-11, 165, Sr.); WR-DB Blair Wishom (6-0, 190, Sr.); OL-LB Zach Stanley (5-11, 206, Sr.)
4. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.) 14-1 WR Duron Carter (6-3, 205, Sr.); QB Ryan Becker (6-0, 185, Sr.); C Brandon Linder (6-5, 280, Jr.); LB Conor O'Neill (6-1, 185, Sr.); RB Giovanni Bernard (5-9, 200, Jr.)
5. Jenks (Jenks, Okla.) 13-1 DB Gabe Lynn (6-0, 180, Sr.); LB E.J. Colbert (5-9, 220, Sr.); WR Tramaine Thompson (5-9, 170, Sr.); OL Brian Mincher (6-2, 270, Sr.); DL Jason Bixler (6-2, 220, Sr.)
6. Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, N.J.)

 

 

12-0 QB Brett Knief (6-0, 190, Sr.); RB Dillon Romain (5-11, 205, Sr.); RB Tony Jones (5-9, 185, Jr.); DB Trace McDermott (6-0, 190, Sr.); OL Jack Templeton (6-3, 260, Sr.)

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Here is the ESPN-RISE rundown on DLS for this season:

3. De La Salle (Concord, Calif.)
Last season's record:
13-0, CIF Division I state champion
Key players: RB Kylan Butler (5-8, 180, Sr.); QB Blake Wayne (5-10, 170, Sr.); WR-DB Noah Perio (5-11, 165, Sr.); WR-DB Blair Wishom (6-0, 190, Sr.); OL-LB Zach Stanley (5-11, 206, Sr.)
Outlook: There is some rebuilding to do along the front lines on both offense and defense, but this could be the fastest overall squad that head coach Bob Ladouceur (332-20-3 since 1979) has ever had. That's why the Spartans (with 10 returning starters) are beginning in their usual spot of being No. 1 in California. Butler led the team in scoring last year with 22 TDs and is headed to the University of Arizona.

 

Kylan Butler

Espn.com

RB Kylan Butler is a touchdown machine.

Wayne split time as the starting quarterback last year and should be the main guy this year. He is exceptional at running Ladouceur's veer offense and had one TD rushing and a TD pass in last year's CIF Division I state final. Perio, who caught the game-winning TD pass in the same game, and Wishom are playmakers on both sides of the ball.

 

Speed is also coming up from a 9-1 JV team, led by junior RB Tyler Anderson (5-11, 180), who had one of the highest SPARQ Ratings from the entire country last spring. In the CIF state track meet, De La Salle placed third in the 4x100 relay final. Three of those four runners were underclassmen who are expected to be on this season's football team.

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If I were the athletic director for any high school team, I would refuse to play DLS. It is not a fair playing field; they get to recruit from anywhere they want and the normal high schools have to play with the hand their dealt.  NOT FAIR.... it is ridiculous what DLS is allowed to get away with. 

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It is what it is. We've been down this road many times before. The EBAL ADs did not ask for DLS to be transferred to their league. That was done courtesy of the BVAL ADs. I don't think any of the EBAL teams are out to duck the Spartans, although each will have their hands full that week. The EBAL is a war every week during league play anyway, and this just makes it that much tougher. True, DLS doesn't have boundaries, and although they don't recruit like a college team does, they do have certain advantages in terms of the wide area of kids they tend to attract athletes from. They also have great coaching. Who knows, maybe they will have some competitive games this season? We'll find out soon enough.

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If I were the athletic director for any high school team, I would refuse to play DLS. It is not a fair playing field; they get to recruit from anywhere they want and the normal high schools have to play with the hand their dealt.  NOT FAIR.... it is ridiculous what DLS is allowed to get away with. 

Allright - I hope you enjoy a little cheese with that whine.

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you are a true hater probably with 0 athletic ability, and a nerd in high school, probably

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8-08-08

001......The Spartan's are going to be hard to  beat...The EBAL will have to do more then rise for the occasion....DLS mauled MV 50-15 and Cal. 37-0 last year and these were top teams with some very good personal....Calif. and San Ramon lost the most to grad, so a lot of their strength has been watered down..MV looks to be in better shape....Foothill lost Rob Andrews, and there are not many teams that get the likes of a 220 pound running back to Grad plus a host of others, but the JV team that is moving up to varsity will more then make the difference. and with Sean Mannion entering his Jr. year, the Falcons will be will be tough to deal with....With DLS's speed and cordination..the key to stopping the spartans will be playing them ,using there tactic's with a lot of guts and will power....The EBAL could be in for a long season......

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No doubt DLS will be hard to beat. That is a given, even for the best high school teams in the nation. A few competitive games from their opponents this season would probably be welcomed by even the Spartans themselves. They are heavily favored to run the table in the EBAL.

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While I agree the EBAL could/will likely be in for a long season, in looking at the ESPN review above the "key returners" are all less than 6 feet tall and around 180 lbs on average except for the LB who is 200+.

DLS wins on execution more than anyone else and while a poster above acurately states that they can "recruit from anywhere" the fact is that they don't have to. The best players go to them. That is the benefit of having a winning tradition and being a private school. I understand many don't like it, but you'll hear kids or parants say "I was recruited by DLS", but in fact they may have been seen at a football camp etc... and "invited" to apply to the school. It is not cheap to attend DLS and I'm not sure they are able to or what the NCS rules are regarding "scholarships" or reduced tuition.

Knowing that the Spartans biggest advantage this year is speed is actually encouraging to me as far as the EBAL goes. There are some very fast, but overall small teams in this league!

Someone above also metioned Cal's ability to potetially beat Bellvue is solely based on the running game. Cal may actually have the best passer (or a close second to Southwick), returning in Bo Stompro. He was very impressive last year and I assume he'll only be better with his experience.

DeLa has to be the heavy favorite to with the league. We'll have to see if depth of the league, or maybe injuries effect them this season.

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I didn't say "solely" based on their running game. They have a couple of good returning backs in Green and Davis, and their running game should be solid. I was just making a comment to that effect. Stompro performed very well in a backup role last season and has a strong arm. If Cal is to have a good season, then everyone will need to perform, from the RBs to the QB to the defense and even the kickers.

Here's a blurb that was in the Times this morning regarding the star player of the Bellevue team that broke the Spartans' 151-game winnning streak:

"Running back J.R. Hasty is resuming his career at NCAA Division II Central Washington. He's the son of former NFL safety James Hasty. As a senior at Bellevue High School in 2004, Hasty scored a Washington state-record 50 touchdowns and was considered the top player in Tyrone Willingham's first recruiting class at Washington in 2005. But earlier this summer, Willingham told Hasty his scholarship wouldn't be renewed. Hasty finished with 18 yards on six carries for the Huskies, all last season. He was instrumental in Bellevue's 39-20 win over De La Salle in 2004, ending the Spartans' 151-game win streak."

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8-09-08

001.....Max prep....lists Bellevue as #14 in the nation for the 2006/07 season and they went undefeated at 14-0, but i still think that Calif. can stop them...

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Interesting Bluedog. They must have graduated a lot of seniors after that to not be ESPN's top 50 preseason rankings. I do remember seeing another team from the Seattle area, so maybe that team is loaded and they figured 1 team from that metro area was enough? There's no question that Bellevue will have a solid team and playing at Qwest Filed (home of the Seahawks) should have everyone fired up as if this is a playoff game. Even though its been a few years now, I'm sure all these kids remember the big win over DLS and all the hoopla that came along with it. They will want their own piece of a CA team. Could be a good game. I wonder if someone will televise it?

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8-09-08

Last year...07/08 season, Bellevue went 11-2....I think you are right, they must have lost a lot of seniors to graduation......They have already gone to Alaska and beat Anchorage 19-6, so they are not the power house of the past, but no body to over look....During the period that they beat DLS they have taken in five state straight championships.....at the time, no body to mess with.... 

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DLS is not going to be anywhere near as good as last year...not enough experience or depth...'09/'10 should be great, but this year could be a struggle. They may lose a couple of games this year...

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DLS is not going to be anywhere near as good as last year...not enough experience or depth...'09/'10 should be great, but this year could be a struggle. They may lose a couple of games this year...

Not in the EBAL they won't.  I doubt they will win any league game by less than 10 points.  No one has a defense that can stop them.

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