Posted on Saturday, 9/12/2009 - 7:35 a.m. PDT — by UnnamedSourc
Under cover in Baltimore:
ht tp://big government.com/2009/09/10/chaos-for-glory/
ht tp://ho tair.com/archives/2009/09/10/videos-acorn-advising-on-tax-evasion-for-pimps-and-prostitutes/
And D.C.:
ht tp://ho tair.com/archives/2009/09/11/video-the-acorn-pimp-shielding-network/
MSM coverage?
ht tp://ho tair.com/archives/2009/09/11/quote-of-the-day-560/
Baltimore's response? Investigate the investigators!
ht tp://ho tair.com/archives/2009/09/11/unbelievable-maryland-may-prosecute-okeefe-for-shooting-acorn-video/
And what about that prosecutor?
ht tp://ho tair.com/archives/2009/09/12/will-baltimore-prosecute-other-journalists-too/
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I was watching the report on Fox News? and their comment on how no other news was covering the story, than I noticed the date time stamp on the video was 7-22-2005, In the next reports on Fox, they covered the date stamp with their logo. Makes you wonder?
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What possible difference could it make when the video was shot, the people at ACORN said what theyh said pure and simple, they all should be tried in a Federal Court under the R.I.C.O. laws.
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I'm not defending Acorn in any way, I was just commenting on the fact that FOX News? was saying no other news media was reporting the story. It just has me wondering why they went to covering up the date stamp. Another question comes to mind, the reporter said she was just walking in a "bad Neighborhood" and got out of there as fast as she could and called a friend to help her with a sting ( and yes that's what it was). Just too many questions about motive. Again, I don't support Acorn in any way and don't really trust them at all, but something about this whole thing smells funny.
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The motive appears to be to show just exactly what kind of organization ACORN is, If everything is on the up and up with them why have they fired so many people in the last several days. other than showing the videos fox news had nothing to do with the making of these videos. I would like to see some of the other news outlets bringing these unlawful acts to light, but I doubt that they will.
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You are right, why did they wait to release them until now? If they knew such things were going on, how, in good conscience, could they wait until now to release them. If you google "acorn videos with date stamp", you will find a link called "is Fox News giving "Fair and Balanced"? There you will find a article about this, from a different perspective, and a link to ACORN, giving their side of the story. ACORN is a wonderful organization, which helps minorities and low-income people to improve their lives. The Republicans are trying to destroy them, because they registered so many voters who had never voted before, and a majority of them voted for Obama. (Of course, Obama got the majority of minority votes!)
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Another scary question not asked is how many ACORN employees who would have given the same advice have been promoted within the ranks and are managing the organization now, 4 years later? If it were 3 locations within a single city, or even nearby cities within a state, you could make the case that the training given the fired employees was from a single, localized source. But the third city killed that argument, and now you should be looking at how high within the organization does the unethical behavior persist?
But when several states are investigating ACORN for voter registration fraud, you might start to think that unethical behavior might actually be rewarded within the organization. As a result the Census Bureau has washed its hands and refuses to allow ACORN to help with the U.S. Census. In fact it is so bad that Congress wrote in a PARDON for ACORN activities in the ARRA!
And it was ACORN attorneys, like Barry Soetoro, who went to financial institutions and threatened to sue them under recently passed federal legislation if they did not increase the number of low-income housing loans. Of course the only way the institutions could comply was to lower their credit qualifications. And hopefully you understand the preponderance of 'toxic' loans is from those activities.
Now there may be a number of good things ACORN does for parts of American society. They are also a very political organization. They were caught on video trying to give away "Don't Tread on Me / Patriots" flags at the recent White House Tea Party, perhaps to make the protesters look more violent than they actually are. (They left with their flags and a police escort when exposed by the crowd).
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the reporters did these reports 5 years ago, when they were 15 and 20?
I don't think so.
Does your VCR still blink "12:00"?
acorn is and has always been, a corrupt organization. obama has been deeply involved with them for many years. "Birds of a feather, flock together."
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ACORN Supporting Child Prostitution
Third city (NY) presented on YouTube today.
Isn't it great that Congress gave ACORN a blanket pardon for these acts in the ARRA?
And what happened to that report about the central fund collecting arm of ACORN is registered as a lobbyist which makes all contributions taxable? And no taxes collected ...
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I have no idea how old they are. If you look at the video of the "woman" in the video who is the prostitute, you can see she is much heavier than she is now. Her face has the "baby fat" of a 15 year-old, which women usually lose as they get older. Now, look at the video of her during an interview on FOX News. You can see she looks about 4 or 5 years older than on the other video.
So, why did they sit on these videos, "knowing" what was going on? Have they no morals?
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She is 20, he is 25.
So far, most of the acorn staffers on video have been fired. With the now highly politicized DOJ, it is not likely that they will be prosecuted without a great deal of public outrage being expressed.
ht tp:// p a j a m a s media.com/blog/why-did-holders-justice-department-dismiss-the-black-panther-case/2/
Excerpt:
And therein lies the most likely answer to the mystery as to why the Obama team would want to undo a victory in a high-profile civil rights case. The notion that civil rights laws apply to all citizens, and are not on the books merely to protect minority groups or to pursue white racists, is an anathema to the liberal civil rights establishment and their sympathetic partners in the Justice Department.
Another attorney familiar with the inner workings of the Civil Rights Division agrees with this take. He observes that Department staff “openly and proudly advocate for a different standard” depending on the race of the alleged civil rights violator. He contends that this view extends now up to the attorney general and to staff attorneys who “say it openly at the Justice Department when the topic of ‘reverse’ discrimination comes up.” He explains:
The half dozen of these cases the Bush Justice Department filed (and won) are loathed and criticized openly in the halls of the Department by so-called committed civil rights attorneys. Open contempt for these cases establishes one’s civil rights bona fides, especially to the new political appointees in the Civil Rights Division.
“The Department must refocus on the traditional mission of civil rights enforcement.” These are well-understood code words to mean federal law will not be used to bring cases against black defendants or institutions that discriminate against whites. … Sometimes these people express contempt for fair enforcement of the law to people who silently agree that the law should be enforced fairly, but don’t dare let anyone know they think it.
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City #4 - San Bernadino?
I'm now hearing there is a 4th city located here in California. Taped Aug. 17th. Can any libertines out there confirm or deny?
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Over the past 15 years, ACORN has received about $53 million in government contracts ... mostly to protect poor, underrepresented Americans living in blighted urban areas. In 2007, alone, Pfizer received $73 million in government contracts. This is the same Pfizer, of course, that just paid close to $4 billion in fines and settlements for fraud, the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products where it marketed dosages not approved by the FDA (company representatives told doctors that it could be used to treat acute and surgical level pain at doses well above those approved by the FDA even though the dangers of the drug – particularly to kidney, skin and heart risks – were KNOWN to increase with the dose), and multiple felony violations (to which it plead guilty) for misbranding an anti-inflammatory drug (Bextra) with the purpose to mislead. It also promoted its products in the medical profession with free golf trips and conference travel expenses that it paid to doctors.
So where is the conservative outrage about this?
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shays wrote "... ACORN has received about $53 million in government contracts ... Pfizer received $73 million in government contracts. This is the same Pfizer, of course, that just paid close to $4 billion in fines and settlements for fraud ... So where is the conservative outrage about this? "
There's hardly a comparison between $4B and the $800B given to the banks (so far). Stated another way, Pfizer leveraged $73M into a $4B cost, and ACORN leveraged $53M into an $800B loss. And the sourceo of the $800B problem hasn't been fixed. But we got ObamaCare! And bear in mind that ACORN was only defunded thru Oct. 31st of this year. And they've been pre-pardoned by legislation for any illegal acts.
This is how it was done (sorry for the cut-N-paste, this is important) -
GLENN: From high above Times Square in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. Welcome to the program. Is Michele Bachmann on the phone? Congresswoman Bachmann, welcome to the program. How are you?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Good morning, Glenn Beck. I'm doing great. Great to talk to you.
GLENN: May I say I believe you are one of a handful. Give me a number. I'm thinking five, a handful of people, maybe three, that actually are in there doing the right thing, and you'll fall on your sword if you have to, but you're in there just, you don't care about the parties anymore?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's right. And I think that's why Speaker Pelosi has made me her number one congresswoman to defeat next year.
GLENN: That is congratulations. (Applause).
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: She just released a list and I'm at the top of had your list to defeat.
GLENN: Really?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: She's raising money hand over fist to defeat me next year.
GLENN: How can I help you raise money?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, people with go to MicheleBachmann.com. I need the help. She's raising money at a clip no one has ever seen before because I'm her number one target to get rid of.
GLENN: We should have a fundraiser for you, Michele?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: I will take it. Glenn Beck fundraiser, you are it, my friend, and you would be the draw of all draws.
GLENN: I have to tell ya, I can't take, I can't take the Lindsey Grahams of the world.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: No.
GLENN: Anymore.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: No. People have had it. When they see what's going on with ACORN, with this phony baloney healthcare bill why it's not even words on a sheet of paper the people are voting on; it's a concept. This is isn't even a bill they voted on yesterday.
GLENN: Has that ever been done before?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: No.
GLENN: We're looking into it. My researchers say it's never been done before. They are voting on a red line piece of paper, something that is all marked up. It's not even actually written down.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: It not one word of a law has been written yet and these people took a vote on a bill that hasn't been written. What's worse is the federal government estimated how much this bill would cost. You can't estimate how much it's going to cost if you don't have words on a sheet of paper telling you this is the actual bill language. One word can make all the difference in the bill, and they don't have one word written of an actual legislative language. This is a travesty.
GLENN: Okay. You just sent a letter out because you sent a letter out to the FDIC, and I can't believe you actually wrote "The honorable" before her name but you wrote it to the honorable Sheila Bair. She runs the FDIC. You have exposed something and this is breaking news today on ACORN. Michele Bachmann now has exposed yet this hang on, gang yet another assault on your wallet by ACORN and those with power or those who just did whatever they had to do to be able to hang onto their wallet in the in Wall Street and the financial district. Can you explain what you found?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Yeah. This is one thing you do so well is you connect the dots, and the dots are connecting between the federal government and ACORN. Very simply this is it: The federal government wrote a law called the Community Reinvestment Act. It demands that banks make loans to people who are poor credit risks. So that law was already passed.
GLENN: Okay. Now, that law actually was passed by Bill Clinton.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's right.
GLENN: And it was pushed by Barney Frank and I believe Senator Dodd was involved with that.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's right.
GLENN: All of the usual suspects were involved.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: All of the usual subjects including some Republicans that got behind this law. The Community Reinvestment Act. So that was already passed. Then what happened, the federal government hung a threat over these banks because banks didn't want to make loans to people who were poor credit risks. That's not they are there in the business to do. So as part of the demand from the federal government, what they said is if the banks fail to lower their lending standards, then the federal government would shut down their interstate bank branches and they would not allow banks to open new branches. So in other words, the federal government would essentially shut these banks down if they refuse to make bad loans to people who wouldn't be able to pay them back.
GLENN: Right.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And what we found out, Glenn.
GLENN: Listen to this.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And we're breaking this story on your radio show is that one way the banks could satisfy their requirement under the Community Reinvestment Act is they could partner with ACORN. So a bank could either make a cash donation to ACORN, they could give equipment donations or they could work with ACORN to provide these loans to people who are poor credit risks. One bank that did that was the Citizens Bank of Massachusetts. They put it in a partnership with ACORN. Minnesota Bank, Northeast Bank of Minnesota donated $2,000 to ACORN. New York Bank. We'll put all of this information up on our website at MicheleBachmann.com. But this is huge. Here you have the federal government demanding that banks lower their lending standards. And as a threat to these banks the federal government says we're putting you out of business unless you make these bad loans. But one way you can satisfy your Community Reinvestment Act rating, because you have to get a certain score, one way you could satisfy your score, give money to ACORN. Work with ACORN. You work with ACORN, you're good with us, says the federal government. This is so bad. But the dots are connecting.
GLENN: Let me ask you this. I notice here that you have banks, and see if we find any threads here. I notice that you have listed the banks that are doing this, that gave money or helped ACORN one way or another to satisfy their needs for the government. The banks that you point out, and my question is are there more: Massachusetts, Minnesota, California, and New York. Now, those are all the wildly out of control progressive states. Are there banks in other states that have done this?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Oh, yes, there are.
GLENN: Okay.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And again that's because banks had to figure out some way to satisfy the federal government's demands and so if they, you know, if they were nervous about making loans to very to people with very shaky credit, one thing they could also do is give money to ACORN. So it's a form of payola. So the banks, in order to be in compliance with the federal government, would give payoff money, so to speak, to ACORN in order to stay in the good graces with the federal government. I mean, what else would you call that but a payola?
GLENN: No, it's corruption. So Michele, where does this go now from I mean, you're ringing the bell. But where does it go from here now?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: We have to demand an investigation. That's why I
GLENN: No, but Michele, God bless you. You know how I feel about you. But I'm so frustrated right now, and I know the American people are. We have been demanding an investigation.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And we haven't gotten it.
GLENN: So just talk people down no, forget about other people. Talk me off the ledge. Talk me off the ledge.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: The number one way we can talk people off the ledge I think is take a page, a cue from Barney Frank. Over the weekend Barney Frank told a special interest group, if you want congress' attention, you melt the phone lines. You call them and you demand. And that's what I think your listeners need to do.
GLENN: They say here it is. This is David Brooks and all of these conservative blowhards that are losing their power now and see that, well, no, wait, Sarah Palin, she's not going through us, the gate keepers. Wait a minute, hold it. All of these old people who screwed this system up six ways to Sunday that are now losing their power now are saying that Rush Limbaugh and me and everybody else, we can't do anything but melt phones and nobody pays attention to that anymore; is that true?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, I think they are paying attention and that's why I'm telling everyone Monday through Friday from now until December 31st, call your member of congress. Call your senator and tell them, don't have the government take over healthcare, and would you please defund ACORN? Because this is another lie. ACORN has only been defunded until October 31st.
GLENN: Unbelievable.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: When it's Halloween and kids are out trick or treating.
GLENN: Unbelievable.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: The biggest trick is going to be played on the American people. When the clock strikes midnight, Glenn, on October 31st, the spigot turns back on for federal money flowing to ACORN. They were only defunded to this month. It's a huge CYA move on the part of congress and so that's why people need to get mad, get engaged. The tea parties were awesome, and it got more attention than the media wants you to believe. The 9/12 movement that you instigated was a bigger deal than anyone has been led to believe. But if we have to keep the pressure up and that's why your listeners have to melt the phone lines every day. When they wake up and comb their hair and take their vitamin, pick up their phone and call their two senators, call their member of congress. Say, look, I'm not going to stand for this. You do not have the government take over my healthcare and you defund ACORN. Have you figured this out? And then the next day you pick up the phone, you give the same message. Trust me, hardly anyone picks up the phone. Hardly anyone makes the phone calls. That's why the 9/12 movement has been so incredibly successful. Because for the first time the American people are engaged. But they can't just think the 9/12 movement was enough on September 12th. We have to make those phone calls now until the end of the year.
GLENN: Michele?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's why Speaker Pelosi has made me her number one target to defeat next year. She wants me gone next year.
GLENN: I have to tell you something. I want you to pass this along to your friends in congress that are that stand by the Constitution and stand against corruption. And I think there are good Democrats and good Republicans. I think the Democrats are more afraid than Republicans are because they know who's got their party by the throat. But you tell them that I am currently in fact, I was just in the break, I was in the hallway talking about something that we're working on for next year and hopefully we'll be announcing here in the next month or so. You tell your friends in congress they haven't seen anything yet. You wait until next year. They haven't seen anything.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: They need to know that. And the best way they can know is by the American people getting a hold of their member of congress and saying this is it: You take orders from me; I don't take orders from you, and you do not pass healthcare and you defund ACORN and you do it now.
GLENN: Do you know, Michele, do you think that the people in congress have any sense to them of the trouble that they are in? I mean, you know, I've talked to a few reporters who are, you know, decent reporters and don't ever want anybody to know that I speak to them. But they're decent reporters that people think are, you know, in the bag for Obama or whatever and they say that the politicians are all saying, "Well, these people will go back to sleep again soon, these people will be off, you know, they're not going to they will be distracted by something else. The people don't have a long memory." You know, Lindsey Graham is running again I think in, what, 2014 is his next election? I don't think this guy has a chance of winning in 2014 because of what he's doing right now. The days of, you know, the elephant is supposed to have a good memory. An elephant never forgets, uh huh. They have forgotten for a long time. Forget about the stupid elephant. Americans who feel that their representatives have betrayed the Constitution or at least borderline betrayed the Constitution and sold our children into a lifetime of servitude, to be able to pay off the things that they are now buying up now, they are not going to be forgotten and they are not going to be forgiven.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, that's right because the new coalition that is coming together, literally that is a huge tent that is sewn together with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. The very parchment of those documents is the tent that we are coalescing against. Because what we recognize is as Americans we were given the most precious gift of any people of all time. And that was our declaration. And that was our Constitution. And in one year's time, in a stunning move, we've seen the federal government take over 30% of all private wealth produced in this country. One year ago 100% of private business profits were private. Today 30% of private business profits are owned or controlled by the federal government. If they get their way and take over healthcare
GLENN: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All of us are looking at each other saying, wow, I've never heard that stat. Where do you get that stat?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Oh, no, that's true. An, an economist from Arizona State University has calculated that since the inception of bailout nation, we have seen the federal government own or control 30% of private business profits.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: If the federal government lays claim to the private wealth produced in healthcare, Glenn, that's another 18%, or 48% of the private wealth. And if they lay claim through cap and trade, what Lindsey Graham is getting on board with, that's another 8%, or 56% of the private wealth produced in this country. That's stunning. That is stunning.
PAT: So just those two programs, the climate bill and the healthcare reform, which is another 18%, or another 26%?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That would be 26%, or a total of. Because the federal government has already, Glenn, gotten control or ownership of 30% of the private wealth produced in this country. As if that wasn't bad enough, now this would be an additional 26%. At that point we are no longer a free market capitalist country. That's why people are nervous for a reason. People aren't crazy. They haven't been ginned up by talk show hosts. This is real. This is real what we're seeing in front of our eyes. And that's why I do believe that politicians are going to quake in their boots. And if they aren't, they better. They better.
GLENN: Are you willing, are you willing to lose your job and your reputation for standing up for what you believe in?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, of course. I always have been. I'm a former federal tax lawyer. My husband and I have raised five kids. We've raised 23 foster kids. We started a business. I had a really good life before I ever came to Washington D.C., and I left being at home with our family because I saw that my 23 foster kids and my five biological kids aren't going to have a chance, not a chance if the federal government goes down this road.
GLENN: Do you know, do you realize the carbon footprint of your family?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Isn't it wonderful? Freedom lovers all, Glenn.
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now we know the truth about real America- he listens to, are you ready..............
Beck and Bachmann- the idiot and the oddity
yea, real truth and balanced repoting there
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Well, he has a rather extensive list of right wing commentators and blogs to which he is connected ... and he cuts and pastes without ever stopping to check for accuracy, truth or even credibility.
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I said I wouldn't enter into any more conversations with you, but this one is too good to pass up. A transcript of an interview with Michelle Bachmann by Glenn Beck? This has credibility? Oh lord, help us!
The FBI recently concluded that 85% of the housing/mortgage meltdown was corporate caused (see Sean Hannity's interview with Michael Moore for the details). ACORN helped poor people try to struggle through the mortgage mess while con artists ripped them off. The problem with the housing crisis, as with all economic ills, traces directly back to the deconstruction of New Deal regulatory protections by the Republican Party (though Jimmy Carter began some deregulation in the last two years of his administration). We should have all taken a clue when Reagan deregulated the Savings and Loan industry so they could be free to "compete". Sometimes, it takes a really hard fall before you realize the training wheels have been taken away.
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There's No Excuse for Inaction ...
Bear in mind when you read the following that the problem is 2-fold; the government allowing holding companies to have insurance and banks together, and the Community Reinvestment Act that sets up ACORN to accept bribes from banks. Had Congress corrected their mistakes instead of bailing out the banks (ARRA, TARP), and foisting ObamaCare on us, we would dealing with the causes of the recession instead of its symptoms.
(cut N paste) lvrj.com/opinion/housing-shakedown-64346232.html
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