Qin's Bistro & Bar


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I had the opportunity to try Antioch's newest fine dining choice last night and wanted to report back. First of all, this place is gorgeous. They spared no expense in decor or ambiance. The bar serves as the center point, elevated above the rest of the restaurant. Spacious, private, cozy booths line the perimeter, black granite tables set for fine dining are both classy and welcoming. The menu is rather limited and not what one would expect. Little of what we tend to think of for "Asian food." It is more fine dining with an asian influence. For example they serve the Ribeye stake with wasabi mashed potatoes and they have appetizer "rolls" that aren't exactly sushi, but sort of a relative. The appetizers were good. We had pot stickers and chicken and mushroom lettuce wraps. The portions were quite large- plenty for the three of us to share and they were served with delicate yet tasty dipping sauces. The cocktails were nice- a generous, but not ridiculous pour and a nice selection. For an entree, my wife and I shared the whole roasted crab and my mother-in-law had the prawns. (insert easy joke here) She reported back that the prawns were very good. We found the crab a little overdone and consequently a little flaky- the meat just would not come out in the firm pieces one gets from really good crab. It was served with a hot wasabi butter sauce that was quite nice. Again, the portions were huge. We were there quite late, and chose not to have dessert, but the menu looked a little pedestrian for the restaurant. The service was very attentive- almost too attentive- but quite disorganized. It was their first night, so that is to be expected. Even late at night, when we were by far the last in the place, we never felt rushed or hurried out. It was a little pricy- $160 with tax and tip for 3 of us with 2 drinks each, but nothing stood out as being overpriced. It is just the type of fine dining that we are not used to out here. I think it will do them better to expand their menu a little, adding some more "traditional" asian foods- (more sushi would be a great start) things they could price a little lower so they don't lose customers due to sticker shock. However, it is a nice addition to the Southeast Antioch culinary scene. Being right next to Cocina Medina, Qin's is helping to make the ugliest strip-mall in the East Bay into a real dining destination. Qin's Bistro and Bar 5007 Lone Tree (Hillcrest and Lone Tree) 754-8888 www.qinsbistroandbar.com
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That sounds intriguing and it's right around the corner from where I live, but $160 for three of you???!!! What kind of a bar tab did you have?
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Drinks were probably ~$50 of that
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That's a very good critique. Maybe they went with a simple menu until they get going and it will evolve from there? The decor and ambiance sounds great. Makes me want to try it out. Hey Stoney, what do you say? (Your turn to buy buddy!).
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If we both stick to tap water it might be doable.
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Ok, we'll go back when I'm buying for kamikazes and sake bombs!
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Thanks for the review! We also live close by, and have been keeping an eye out for its opening. I hope they're just going through some minor growing pains, and the menu will continue to evolve with time (quickly would be good!). Sake bombs?! Oooooooh, I'll hafta look into this . . . sounds like fun!
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We'll have to see, if it's too high class, they might not even serve sake bombs. If they let Stoney in, that'll be a good sign they might. LOL They take two chop sticks and lay them over the top of a glass of beer. Then they balance a shot glass of sake, ever so gingerly, on top of the chop sticks. (Then you pray a loud boombox doesn't go by and cause a premature bomb release). Then they yell something in japanese (chinese will work) as they slam their fist on the bar top so the chop sticks spread apart and the shotglass of sake falls like a bomb into the beer. Then you take a deep breathe and chug it down. If they don't make sake bombs, you could make your own by ordering a sake with a beer chaser and just pouring it in, but that's the wimpy way.
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Do you think they carry a rider in their insurance policy to cover themselves when people choke on their egg roll appetizers when the guy yells and slams his fist on the bar?
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It looks something like this:
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That's it! Except that's an awfully narrow beer glass for that sake cup. I'd rather see a 16 oz beer glass with a wider mouth so you have some margin for error. I'd get ready to move fast, because that looks like a disaster waiting to happen. It'd be pretty embarrassing if your own sake bomb landed right on your lap. It's hard to cover up that kind of collateral damage. Stoney, I think your regular insurance should cover wrongful death from eggroll asphyxiation due to sake bomb post traumatic stress disorder. Really, the worst thing that I've seen happen is rookies tilt the beer glass past horizontal when chugging and when you do that, the shot glass inside can slide down and knock your front teeth out. You know those guys that try to impress the ladies by saying it's an old hockey injury? Yeah right, who plays hockey around here? Always chug with your eyes open and if you tilt too far and you see the shot glass coming toward your teeth, use your nose to block it!
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I was going to go with this one, but the glass looked a little too full for this procedure.
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That looks like a photoshop hack job. Only an idiot would fill the beer all the way to the top. And what is that in that shot glass, Creme de Menth? Oh. maybe it's a Grasshopper, the drink named after that Kung Fu guy. That makes sense.
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It looks more like Scope mouthwash rinse to me. Plus, the chopsticks look too sturdy. It could be a photoshop hack job.
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I've gargled with Beer, and I've gargled with Scope, But mix them together, And I'd rather use soap.
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We tried to go to Qin's Bistro & Bar today for lunch but they wouldn't seat us. No, not because Stoney was with me, but because they weren't open for lunch. They have a sign that their hours are limited because they just opened, but they will be open for lunch and dinner tomorrow. Stoney started walking away, but I said wait, let's peek in the window and one of the guys inside saw our faces pressed against the glass so he opened the door and invited us inside to look. Holy cow, what a beautiful place! I don't think people in Antioch can complain about not having an exquisitely decorated fine dining restaurant anymore. It's really decked out to the hilt with luxurious boothing and a large 360 round bar with undercounter accent lighting. I saw the Mayor of Brentwood make a comment about how the Street's of Brentwood would have upscale fine dining and retail shops, but I find it hard to believe it will have one better than Qin's. I've been to PF Chang's several times, and Qin's is every bit as nice. This restaurant would fit right in among those in Downtown Walnut Creek. I'm impressed, of course I'll have to go back to try the food. Stoney and I took a menu with us and headed over to Cocina Medina and we were looking at the prices. Yeah, Qin's may be a little pricey, but a perfect place to impress that special someone or business associate. Funny how Stoney was questioning JMiller how he could spend that much for 3 people at Qin's. The bill for the two of us at Cocina Medina was $61 including tip! Of course Stoney, with his sophisticated palate couldn't just order a house margarita. He had to go for a shot of $13.50 rare, impossible to find, taquila. Why does he always have to savor and taste everything? He claims he could taste the barrel it was stored in and that's what made it taste so good. I had a shot of Silver Patron for half the price and the glass bottle it came in tasted fine to me! I know there's another Mexican Restaurant thread, but the service at Cocina Medina was excellent. The owner came over and talked to us and was very nice. I honestly don't think it had anything to do with Stoney ordering the most expensive taquila in the house either. They seemed to be friendly people.
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You've got to admit...that tequila muy bueno. You only live once...right? Somehow Qin's doesn't seem like the place where sake bombs would be the drink of choice. Slamming the bar might set of a chain reaction in that undercounter accent lighting and they'd end up with a strobe disco effect. Not quite the ambiance they're trying to go for.
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Yeah, glass and granite are probably not the best bar top for sake bombs. Better order a bunker buster instead. But maybe the rope lighting under the counter will light up depending how hard you hit the bar top? If the light goes all the way around the circle a bell rings and you win a stuffed panda bear? No honestly, this is just the place I've been waiting to get all dressed up to the hilt and take my wife for dinner the next time I get in the dog house. Speaking of which, almost happened today when she found out we didn't just buy the top shelf taquila at Cocina Medina, we bought the expensive back of house private reserve stuff you can't even buy around here. I told her we planned on going to Qin's, so we were hellbent on spending a lot of money no matter where we went. It's a good thing we didn't go the the Wetzel Pretzel grand re-opening or we'd be eating stale leftover pretzel bites and bagel dogs for weeks.
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"Disco! Disco Duck!" Yah, probably not the effect they're going for . . . although . . . add that one to the whole Minnie Riperton lineup for the boom-boom folks. :::EG::: *Sigh!* I haven't had time to wade back in to the thumping music morass today. Looks like it's been hopping.
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*D'oh*! I'm glad I remembered to check back on this thread, otherwise we might have been in for an unplanned surprise . . . "We tried to go to Qin's Bistro & Bar today for lunch but they wouldn't seat us. No, not because Stoney was with me, but because they weren't open for lunch. They have a sign that their hours are limited because they just opened, but they will be open for lunch and dinner tomorrow." BJ, did they mention the rest of their limited hours a'tall? We were planning to go to Qin's for lunch on Saturday. How much are we at risk of encountering a closed door and doing the "Open! Open! Open!" routine through the windows instead? We love Cocina Medina . . . verah, verah good, and I'm a huge fan of their mango Margaritas. But lately I've been craving a return back to Silk Road in Walnut Creek, so if Qin's winds up being closed, I might try twisting my husband's arm to go over the hill. (I'm a certifiable bread phreak, and Silk Road has some *awesome* flatbread that keeps calling my name.) Thanks for the heads-up on the Sake Bombs . . . they sound like a riot, but I'm too much of a wuss to chugalug, LOL! I could manage to drink it two-fisted . . . one in each hand, delicately sipping out of each one by turns. Such a girl :D . . . I *do* pack a mean belch, however!
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Sounds like my kind of woman. My wife would put you to shame though. I have the same reaction to her belches as I do to the BOOM BOOM cars going by.
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Rut-roh! :D
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Did we mention Qin's looks like a respectable place so you better squelch the belch! Hey, I love the whole Silk Road, Persian thing with the flat bread and the oils. My wife's favorite is the other similar restaurant on Main St., "Pomegranate." We love the pomegranate pork! The pizza's on that flatbread are great too! I would recommend you call Qin's to make sure they are doing lunch on Saturday before your party gets there. The original post has the phone at the bottom. J conveniently listed it for us.
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Aw, yeah . . . I mind my manners and squelch the belch (and my language) in public. Unless, of course, it's in a much less formal environment and people are having a belching contest (I would lose, LOL!). :D I was poking around the 'net last night reading reviews for Silk Road and daydreaming about another lunch there . . . a number of people mentioned that Pomegranate is owned by the same family that owns Silk Road. I will definitely add it to the restaurant line-up! (I had the pomegranate chicken at Silk Road . . . it is deceptively simple looking, but the flavor is out of this world! I'll definitely have to try the pork at Pomegranate.) Yep, we'll have to give a call first, scope it out . . .
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Yes, I heard the Silk Road and Pomegranate owners are either the same or next of kin. Speaking of kin, I wondered, is Qin's pronounced like Kin's or Quin's? I also heard a rumor Greg Khin is performing at the County Fair.
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There was an article yesterday somewherz that mentioned Qin's is pronounced "Chin's".
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Really? Chin's, huh? That's good to know!
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Yes, that's true. Chin, or Chi'in, are alternate spellings (and also how you pronounce) Qin, as in the Qin Dynasty in China back in around 200 BC.
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Check their website: http://www.qinsbistroandbar.com/. They're showing a lunch menu, nowhere can I find their hours. Click on "Contact Us" and call. Roy Gursky http://gurskyranch.com
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Roy, I know you were bummed out when the Mosquito Lounge closed. Maybe Qin's will help you get over the loss of Mosquito Lounge?
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Will definitely have to try it! Just called them. As of Monday this week, they're open for lunch everyday now, starting at 11:00 am. Roy Gursky http://gurskyranch.com
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I already got my booth picked out. It's the one to the right of the bar as you are facing the bar in the very back. You can't miss it because it's isolated from all the other booths (or maybe you could miss it, that's the point!). It's round with a big tall sweeping camelback on it. Perfect location on the back wall, offset enough from the bar for people watching. I got dibs on that one, but you can use it if you promise to move when I come in and request it. I claim that one and declareth a proclaimation that from this day forward, that will forever be knowneth as Bazooka's Booth!
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Since there's no under-table lighting there to go on the fritz, maybe they'll let you get away with your own sake bombs if you can get the asian shout right. Then you can call it Bazooka's Bomb Booth. (helmets optional)
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Sounds like my kind of spot! :D Willing to defer to Bazooka's dibs upon request.
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Woot! Cool beans . . . thanks for checking! I noticed their website had been updated last night. What was then listed for the lunch menu mebbe looks incomplete (?) . . . it only lists things a la carte, whereas the takeout menu has a lot more offerings on it.
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It looks like the menu is already expanding. I will have to try it at lunch. Maybe they opened too early? Maybe they read these boards? Who knows...
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J, be sure to report back and let us know how your lunch was. If you want to try and find out if they are reading this thread without flat out asking them and risking any embarrassment, just order a sake bomb. You might be able to tell by reading their reaction. LOL! Maybe you can find out if they are open for lunch this weekend? That would probably be the soonest Stoney and I could go back for another try at getting in.
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We had broken up for good just an hour ago, uh uh uh - uh uh uh uh uh........
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A little chin music to break up the monotony. Very fitting 001.
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I just got around to reading the Wednesday edition of the Times. Although not exactly a review, in the "Tips Included" column of the Food and Wine section Chrissa Ventrelle gives Qin's a nice write up. I can't wait to sample some of the grub.
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My husband and I went to Qin's for lunch yesterday, and enjoyed it. The atmosphere is on the elegant side, but friendly and non-pretentious. The wall of water behind the hostess desk is mesmerizing, and the bar set-up is really something . . . I loved all of the glass "drips" hanging from the ceiling directly over the bottles. Our waitress brought out complimentary fried wonton strips and sauces for dunking . . . one was ketchup-y, and the other mustard-y. The wonton strips were served cold, but they were crisp and tasty. Normally, we don't order appetizers because then I'm usually unable to eat my entree, but we were unable to resist the "Rock 'n' Roll" Maki, which is unagi (eel) and avocado. It was verrrrrrry good. I continue to have difficulty biting cleanly through nori, but that happens with me anywhere sushi is served, LOL! <---Talented, not :D (Can rarely fit a whole piece inside my mouth, so I hafta take bites.) My husband ordered the Wok Seared Tilapia (sautéed bok choy, red and green peppers, & mushrooms with a spicy soy reduction, served over noodles). I didn't sample his fish since I don't enjoy it, but the noodles and vegetables were excellent. Firm, well-flavored noodles with just enough heat to be pleasant . . . not too hot, not too mild. (I don't do acetylene-torch spicy, so it might be too mild for those who prefer heat that makes them sit up and take notice). He really enjoyed the fish, and the meal overall. I ordered the Peking Duck (honey rubbed & one day aged, steamed buns & hoisin‐plum sauce), which was wonnnnnnnderful! Not being very familiar with the buns, at first I attempted to make a sort of mini sandwich with some of the duck, the hoisin sauce, and a bit of sliced green onion and cucumber that were served along with it. It was fun to eat it that way, but I thought the hoisin sauce was excessively salty (I love hoisin sauce, so that was a surprise). It came with a second dipping sauce that seemed to be apricot-jammy, and that sauce was very good. The duck was luscious . . . the skin rich and crispy, and the meat delectably moist and tender. After eating the bun sandwich experiment, I ate the rest using silverware. We ordered a bottle of wine to drink throughout the meal, and then also ordered one of their specialty mixed drinks, Chocolate Purple Haze (godiva white chocolate, chambord & frangelico), to share between us. This was rather mild in flavor, but tasty, and came with a bit of surprise at the bottom of the glass . . . what appeared to be two, small purple grapes (?), which seemed to have been "pickled" in alcohol for quite some time beforehand. That was a very nice "pop" to finish the drink! Normally for dessert, we order one item and split it between us since desserts are usually huge . . . but we couldn't make up our minds between the Cinnamon & Sugar Cheesecake (fried cheese cake wrapped in light crust, rolled in cinnamon & sugar with mango & raspberry sauce) and the Chocolate Ginger Charlotte (chocolate chip sponge cake filled with chocolate ginger mousse) . . . so we ordered one of each. They were on the small side (particularly the Chocolate Ginger Charlotte), so ordering two worked out well. We've never had fried cheesecake before and didn't know what to expect, so we were surprised when this arrived looking like a burrito sliced in half. It appeared to be wrapped in some sort of light pastry or filo dough, which was then fried and sprinkled with sugar and cinnamon. My husband wasn't wild about the cheesecake, but I think that was because it was served warm and seemed rather light in texture compared to the heavy denseness of cold cheesecake. I enjoyed it, particularly with the wrapping. The Chocolate Ginger Charlotte was also good, but I would have liked to taste the ginger a bit more. There didn't seem to be any gingery taste a'tall with the first bite, though that became more apparent (but still subtle) as we continued to eat it. I'm not very well versed with mousse, but have thought it resembled pudding more than anything else. This, however, was very thick and dense, and not pudding-like at all. The chocolate flavor was good, and I really enjoyed the heavy texture. Our particular entrees were on the spendy side, but there were a lot of other options for $8 or $9. The service was attentive. There was a nice, up-tempo selection of music playing in the background . . . not too loud (muchly appreciative!), not too jangly, not too quiet. We arrived for lunch close to 11:30, and seemed to be the only customers at first. A bit later, my husband said that a party of three had arrived. They, and we, had the restaurant all to ourselves the entire time. This is a great little spot, and I hope more and more people discover it for the lunch hour. We enjoyed Qin's, and will definitely go back!
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That's a great review! I felt like I was there eating it too. Great descriptions. It's certainly not a bermuda shorts and tank top kind of place. People in Antioch have been wanting an upscale restaurant for some time so I hope they come out and show their appreciation too. They certainly spared no expense on the interiors and sounds like the food reviews are coming in favorably too. Can't wait to go myself.
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Yeah Spell.Chic, great review. I think you were OK with the steamed bun sandwich thing. Often peking duck is served with those little thin "pancakes" like a mu shu fu action along with the hoisin sauce and green onions, so this must be their interpretation of that.
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Mu shu fu? Hoisin sauce? Just stick with pancakes and syrup and I'll know what you're talking about! Sounds like they ate a lot, sushi, peking duck, talapia, steam buns, fried cheezcake, and dim sum of them pancake thingies. I still want to go tonight, but my wife is hedging. She doesn't want to get dressed up.
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I loved Qin's, but was surprised at the casual dress of the clientele. I saw young people in jeans, and people dressed up too. The menu has been expanded, and the prices lowered according to our waiter. Apparently there were complaints that the prices were too high for Antioch, (which I think is untrue), so they lowered them and expanded the menu. It felt strange because you have this very upscale environment, and bargain prices. Me
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When a restaurant is new and they're desparate for clientele, I doubt that they care how you're dressed. Just tell them you heard that it was [bleep]ma night. Whoa...why did that get bleeped?
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Grandma night. Huh, it seemed to work for me without getting bleeped. Antioch has always been a casual town. Ties are optional. If I get dressed up and go out, it doesn't bother me if people are also there in jeans because I expect that to be the case. As long as they aren't charging me more because I wore my clip-on tie and giving a discount to the guy in the wife beater t-shirt.
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I don't get it. Why did something as innocuous as [bleep]ma get bleeped? It wasn't grandma night. People might think I said Obama night but that doesn't make sense. It wasn't soma night since not that many folks out here know what the typical dress code is at south of Market clubs in the city. FEMA night is only held in the Washington DC area. I'll just assume that everyone knew that I was referring to nighties, PJ's, jammies, Doctor Dentons. (did jammies get bleeped)
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Stoney spell the first 4 letters backwards. What do you get? A very sensitive person!!
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I've been puzzling over this [bleep]ma business, and finally figured it out. [bleep]mas?! Man . . . Well, there's an alternate spelling that should fly: pyjamas. It looks all kindsa flaky, but . . . or . . . mebbe p-a-j-a-m-a-s (clunky, but it should sneak through). I don't think Qin's is so upscale that people should think twice about going if it means "dressing up" (and I really didn't get that kind of vibe . . . I'm pretty uncomfortable in really chichi-foofoo restaurants, but felt fine at Qin's). Granted, cut-offs, Bermuda shorts, or jammies would be too casual here. When we went, I wore black jeans, black heels, and a black top with a red belt. My husband wore black jeans, black shoes, and a tan, long-sleeved, button-down shirt, *no* tie, open collar. I felt a little *over-dressed*, but that may have been because it was noonish. For the dinner hour, I would have felt appropriately dressed in that outfit, and my husband probably would have put on a tie. Casual dressy? Dressy casual?
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You guys better not show up on the same night as BazookaJoe and his wife or there'll be an awkward social faux pas situation. He's a real Johnny Cash fan and honors his memory by dressing in black from head to toe including the black sport jacket.
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Black formal jammies optional? I'm not a Johnny Cash fan anymore, I'm a Dewey Cox fan now. I'm not going to worry about what I'm wearing when I go to Qin's. I'm just going to worry about going when they're open this time. As customers, we get to define somewhat how the dress is going to be. I'm ok if it becomes a jeans place or a dressy casual atmosphere. I'd prefer, and this is just me talking here, that it doesn't become a jammies place, because what about those people that sleep in just their cotton briefs or their birthday suits? They might even go on their birthday in their birthday suit. I just hope they have enough social graces to place their napkin on their lap. And they better not sit in my booth!
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Hubby looks smokin' dressed head to toe in black with a red tie, which would be a great combo with wot I was wearing the other day. Do ya suppose the red touches would be enough to avoid confusion with Sue, I mean The Man in Black, I mean BazookaJoe and his wife? :D He doesn't own a black sport jacket . . . Okay, I need another earworm now that A Boy Named Sue has taken hold in mah brain, LOL!
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"Folsom Prison Blues" should do the trick. Hey BJ, if someone shows up in their birthday suit I think it's more important that they sit on their napkin than bother putting it in their lap.
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Roy, as long as you compliment the jean shorts and sandals with the black shirt, it should be fine. Sometimes I do that too and figure it only matters what you wear from the waist up because once you sit down at the table that's all they see. They might even seat you faster that way so nicely dressed customers walking in the place don't see some guy standing next to their nice waterfall in ragged denim shorts. You can even wear a tie with shorts and look like this guy:
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My wife and I had dinner at Qin's last night. Let me just start by saying we had a wonderful experience and will be back. (The fact that it's within walking distance from our house doesn't hurt) The first encouraging sign was when I called early Saturday and asked if they thought it would be necessary to make reservations and the woman said definitely. We made reservations for 7:00 but got there at 6:30 to have a drink at the bar. The place was nearly full and stayed that way the whole time we were there. As was mentioned before, the bar is a showcase with a couple of flat screen TV's if you want to catch some sports. (The Giants/A's game was on one of the screens and later during dinner my wife must have caught me trying to sneak a peek at the score out of the corner of my eye. She gave me that look and said how coincidental that all the men in the place were seated facing the same direction. Busted) For her cocktail she was not adventurous and got her usual margarita with a shot of Gran Marnier on the side. I tried one of their specialty drinks, a "Jade" cocktail: Cachaca, honeydew melon liqueur and fresh mint leaves. Very refreshing. We sat in one of their booths for dinner. Except for one large table behind the bar for large parties, all the tables are booths. We shared the bacon wrapped shrimp and a bowl of shrimp won ton soup for appetizers. I wasn't really crazy about either one but I'll have