RADICAL HOMOSEX ATTACK ON MARRIAGE


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RADICAL HOMOSEX ATTACK ON MARRIAGE:

With the latest betrayals of the Citizens by the Radical Activists of Weimar Kalifornia's Turkey Baster Creationist Courts, including the endorsement by one judge of Propaganda Arguments by attorney general jerry 'Moonbeam' brown designed to mislead the voters in the next election about Proposition #8...   - I figure that starting a New Thread under an Accurate Title about this Hot Topic, without the baggage of the types of gaily Sanitized and Misleading Euphemisms that our Old Media hacks use as labels to try to censor and bias the debate with, was an appropriate act.

With this title the connections (including financing) between Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex Activists in other states (like the People's Republik of Mass) and the Attack on Society in Weimar Kalifornia can be shown more clearly; and will hopefully help the 'Vanilla' (clueless voters / taxpayers) wade through the blizzard of Old Media Pro-Gender Feminist / Homosex Propaganda that is the essence of their excremental 'reporting' of such issues, and which will only grow thicker and deeper with their desperation as the election looms closer.

In addition - the inclusion of information usually Censored by the myopic seeing eye 'watchdogs' of our Bought and Paid For 'free press', will not only add true 'Diversity' to the viewpoints available to the masses - but really piss off the Resident Harpies of the Thought Police, which is always worth the price of admission IMNPHO.

Best keep quiet about it though, wouldn't want to spread any "Ism-Obia" now, what with everything else going around and all.

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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

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Fight over Prop. 8 Title Over, Real Fight Now Underway (ProtectMarriage.com)
As you no doubt know, California Attorney General Jerry Brown succeeded in his effort to change the official ballot Title & Summary of Proposition 8 to a title he believes will bias voters to voting No.  Despite heroic efforts by our legal team, the law gives great leeway to the Attorney General in these matters.  Thus, Brown’s outrageous new Title, that Proposition 8 “Eliminates [the] “Right” of Same-Sex Couples to Marry” will appear on the ballot.

While we think this Title is clearly intended to bias voters, we are still very confident of our ultimate success.  Brown can change the Title, but can’t change the facts.  Proposition 8 is 14 simple words: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid and recognized in California.”
Voters will know that Proposition 8 is about restoring marriage and protecting the traditional definition of marriage, and they will vote YES!

We will need to communicate very clearly to voters that Proposition 8 is about restoring marriage, not taking away “rights” that never existed...Prop. 8 Supporters Urged to Fight Back! In light of Jerry Brown’s efforts to defeat Proposition 8, the YES on Proposition 8 Campaign is urging supporters to Fight Back!

Prop. 8 Continues Push for Volunteers
In addition to urging supporters to donate, the YES on Proposition 8 Campaign is encouraging supporters to sign up as volunteers.

We are organizing the largest grassroots campaign in the history of California to pass Proposition 8. Volunteers can choose to help in a variety of ways, all of which are important to protecting our children and restoring the definition of marriage to be between a man and a woman. If you haven’t already, please take a moment right to become a Proposition 8 volunteer!

Prop. 8 Receives Endorsement of California Catholic Conference

You probably know that Proposition 8 received the endorsement of the California Catholic Conference.  But perhaps you missed their beautiful statement in support of marriage and of Proposition 8.  In their statement, the California Catholic Conference wrote:
The issue before us with Proposition 8 is "marriage"--an ancient, yet modern, human institution which pre-exists both Church and government.  Marriage, history shows us, is intrinsic to stable, flourishing and hospitable societies. Although cultural differences have occurred, what has never changed is that marriage is the ideal relationship between a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation and the continuation of the human race.

We welcome the support of the California Catholic Conference and people of all faiths in California. Vote Yes on Proposition 8! www.ProtectMarriage.com
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Old Media Bias for Radical Homosex Activism can clearly be seen in the reporting styles of the various outlets, including the Censorship Scams of the bought and paid for dead tree 'free press'.  One such example can clearly be seen in the 'reporting' of the most recent MISANDRIST Abomination from Weimar Kalifornias supreme Turkey Baster Creationist Court - The Benitez Case...

- Upholding the rights of Dyke Hatemongers everywhere to Destroy the Careers of Doctors of Conscience who fail to pander to their SEPARATIST / NEO-EXTERMINATIONIST Pogroms designed to bring about the brave new Dyketopia of a "World Devoid of Men"...

The Old Media Title given to the story implied that Doctors would Withhold Vital Medical Care to Happy People because of "Ism-Obia" ("doctors can't withhold care to gays") - when in fact the subject is Turkey Baster Dykes wanting to engage in Heterosexual Procreation - but without allowing the MAN who is the FATHER to LEGALLY EXIST (Boys are supposed to have No Fathers - not missing ones, or dead beats, but No Man Ever Legally Existed - just an anonymous genderless 'donor') - and the Moral Objection of Doctors of Conscience to be a party to such Misandrist HATRED.

Nobody is being denied needed care - just the Election by Dyke Hatemongers to Force Doctors (like Nazi Homosex Hatemongers forcing Rabbis to eat pork) to Do their bidding, even if it is an act Extremely Hateful towards the Doctors themselves.

Which is Otherwise known as the Hollyweird interpritation 'tolerance'

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CRFI Launches Yes on Proposition 8 Web Site!

Traditional marriage is in a fight for its very existence and California is the battleground. This November, voters have the opportunity to restore marriage and stand up to judicial tyranny. Protecting marriage is the most important issue to the pro-family cause. For this reason, Capitol Resource Family Impact is excited to announce the launch of a new project and web site: Yes on Proposition 8!

The campaign to pass Proposition 8 will take every ounce of support we can raise. The Yes on Proposition 8 web site is designed to assist you in helping pass this vital initiative. On the web site, you'll find valuable tools to assist you:

Voter Registration. Because the vote for Proposition 8 will be so close, we need every eligible marriage defender to register to vote. The deadline for registering is October 20, 2008.

Volunteering. The campaign will need thousands of volunteers to help share with voters the importance of defending marriage. We will also be contacting voters via phone and need volunteers for phone banking. CRFI will help you use your volunteer time efficiently and effectively for maximum impact.

Information. The Yes on Proposition 8 web site will bring you the latest news and information about the campaign. By using the web site to sign up for regular email updates, you will have up-to-the-minute updates.

Resources. In order to help you spread the word about Proposition 8, the web site will have a variety of valuable resources. Informative articles, fliers and ideas will help you reason with voters and encourage them to vote.

Churches. Yes on Proposition 8 will also have lots of information for churches to help them inform their members and participate in CRI's Citizen Sunday program.

Visit Yes on Proposition 8 today to help save marriage!

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CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT MARRIAGE
ProtectMarriage.com - Sponsor of the California Marriage Protection Act
Title and Summary of the California Marriage Protection Act

Yes2Marriage.org - Sponsor of the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment
Florida Marriage Protection Amendment - Liberty Counsel Press Release

Federal Marriage Amendment Petition - Sign Now!

MORE RESOURCES
Information About the Traditional Family, Same-Sex Confusion and "Same-Sex Marriage"

Family & Society Database (Heritage Foundation)

Adopting - States Prohibiting Same-Sex Adoption
Child Online Protection Act (COPA), article by Mathew Staver, Esq.
Legal Liability for Teaching Homosexuality in Public Schools

Exodus International - a nonprofit, interdenominational Christian organization promoting the message of "Freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ."

Health Risks of "Gay" Sex (Corporate Resource

Council)

Hermaphrodism Is NOT A Separate Sex

"Hate Crimes" Legal Memorandum

Homosexuals Making Changes - An Exodus to Freedom

Hope for Homosexuals - Web site that provides assistance for those questioning their sexual identities. Testimonials of ex-gays showing that many have walked away from the homosexual lifestyle.

People Can Change - Men who have left homosexuality, showing others the way out.

Florida DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act)

Reciprocal Beneficiary Agreements harm marriage

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Efforts to Protect Marriage in Three Key States
Leslie Smith CWFA - July 29, 2008

In response to the radical ruling by activist judges in California, several states have placed marriage amendments on the November 2008 ballot to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.  California, Arizona, and Florida have all recognized the danger of allowing activist judges to make decisions for their citizens and have responded with their own respective amendments so the voices of the people can be heard.

Pastors and religious leaders in all three states are banding together to support, strategize, and rally the troops so that traditional marriage and our religious freedoms are protected.  Over 2,000 pastors will participate in a conference call on July 30 to discuss ways to motivate and educate their congregations and communities.  Director of State Legislative Relations for Concerned Women for America (CWA), Michael Mears, says, “The ballot initiatives in Arizona, California, and Florida provide an opportunity for pro-family citizens to tell the courts and the nation that they have had enough of judicial activism.

I constantly hear people say that if the courts are going to continue to rewrite the Constitution and the law, then ‘we the people’ have to do something about it.  That’s the message that the people in these three states are sending.”

The citizens of California have worked hard to get Proposition 8, California’s Marriage Protection Act, on the fall ballot.  According to the official website, Protectmarriage.com, the ballot initiative “amends the California Constitution to provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.”  Penny Harrington, Director of Legislation for CWA of California, states, “Proposition 8 is presently the most crucial battle of the culture war here.

It is the responsibility of every pro-family individual in this state to understand and share the importance of protecting marriage by supporting Proposition 8 this November.  We ask fellow believers to pray daily and make a commitment to help this effort in every way they can.”  Many emphasize the critical role that California plays because of the strong influence it exerts over the rest of the nation.  The premature crow of victory from San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, “As California goes, so goes the rest of the nation,” should caution those who downplay the importance of this critical time in history.

Understanding that our religious liberties are at stake, pastors in California are leading the way in organizing a conference call to discuss strategy and to assist religious leaders in Florida and Arizona.  Organizers are focusing on ways that the church, as a whole, can gain grassroots support for the initiative.  “I think it’s refreshing that pastors in Arizona, California, and Florida are taking the lead on these initiatives in their states,” says Mears.  “Frankly, I often wonder if our Christian leaders really understand the impact on their own churches if we fail.”  For more information about the July 30 conference call, please visit the Pastor’s Rapid Response Team Monthly Conference Call website at www.protectmarriagesd.com.

Lawmakers in Arizona voted last month to refer a state constitutional amendment on the definition of marriage to the November ballot.  The proposed amendment states, “Only a union of one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage in this state.”  Sally Mikesell, State Director for CWA of Arizona, knows what this victory means.  “The people of Arizona will be able to decide the future of marriage in their state,” says Mikesell.  “Judges will not make the decision for the citizens as the activist California Supreme Court did. Hard work must be done in the months ahead to protect the sanctity of marriage.”

Florida has similar wording in its Florida Marriage Protection Amendment (Amendment 2), which states, “Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.”

The main difference of this amendment is that the wording is strong and specifically addresses the issue of civil unions.  The official campaign website, Yes2Marriage.org, explains that, “The Amendment prohibits any other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof from being valid or recognized as marriage.” CWA strongly supports the language of Amendment 2, which fully protects traditional marriage. Grassroots efforts are especially needed in Florida, where 60 percent of voters need to be in favor of the amendment for it to pass, in contrast to California, which needs a majority vote.

For more information and to get involved, please visit the CWA in the States site (www.cwfa.org)where you can access links to our state sites in California, Arizona, and Florida.

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MassResistance files papers for Referendum Petition to force statewide vote on Legislature's repeal of "1913 Law" - exporting gay "marriage" across America! Signature gathering to begin soon.

We are fighting back! Last Wednesday, August 13, MassResistance officially filed paperwork for a Referendum Petition - including the ten "original signers" - to force the Legislature's cowardly repeal of the "1913 Law" to be voted on by the people.  The story broke on Saturday, after the AG's office mentioned it to the press. The media wasn't too thrilled.

As you know, in the final days of the 2008 session (which ended July 31) the Legislature repealed the "1913 Law", and the Governor signed it in a big State House ceremony surrounded by the gay lobby. This action will allow out-of-state gay couples to get "married" in Massachusetts - and then go back and cause legal havoc in their home states. It also further degrades our own marriage laws.

(It was done in a particularly cowardly and insidious way. The Senate passed it in a "voice vote" to avoid going on record. When the Legislature heard we were planning a Referendum Petition, they passed it again - adding special "emergency act" language to make it go into effect immediately, instead of the usual 90 days.)

What this Referendum means - Before doing this, we polled 600 activists about it. Approximately 100 responded. Of those, 94% said that we should do it, and they'd help collect signatures! There's a lot of excitement. And for good reason. This is a big deal. Besides eventually stopping a horrible social experiment from being forced across the country, this sends some very strong messages.

First, it's a statement that the people of Massachusetts aren't going to just sit back and take it. We're not going to let a small but powerful special interest be allowed to change our laws at will to push an offensive social experiment across the country. This is very important. They forced "gay marriage" on us through a radical judiciary and corrupt politicians. They think we're beaten. Well, we're not. Conversely, if we don't fight back now, they have the green light to do anything they want in the future.

Secondly, it shows the Legislature that we can do this in the future if we have to. We're not afraid to stand up to them. And also, it shows the rest of the country that we're not going to allow the homosexual lobby to rule us.

Here's what happens now Unlike with the Marriage Amendment, a vote of the people CANNOT be stopped by the Legislature if we get the signatures! We officially need 33,297 good signatures by approximately mid-October, but to be safe we really need to get 40,000 or more.)

According to law, before we can start collecting signatures the Attorney General's office must decide whether our request is legal and does not deal with "excluded matters." The AG also must draft a "fair and concise" summary of the law, for the petition sheets. They've already drafted the summary, and we've approved it. On the legality of our request, we cannot see any possible reason to deny it. But the AG's office told us "On all binding ballot questions, we generally ask potential opponents if they wish to submit legal arguments to us on excluded-matters issues." That's not mandated by any law, and so far we haven't heard anything, We want to make sure this isn't just a delaying tactic. Apparently this process sometimes takes up to two weeks. But plan to be on top of it. (We certainly know where AG Martha Coakley publicly stands on this: she hates pro-family folks and supports the homosexual movement.)

After the AG finishes with it, it takes a few more days for the Secretary of State to prepare the actual petition sheets. Then we start. We definitely want to get rolling before Labor Day!

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You're funny.

 

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What happened outside Saddleback Church (CCF)
Inside, John McCain and Barack Obama were being asked questions and giving answers without teleprompters. Outside, we were displaying their comparative records on family and moral issues for the media to see. It was a sea of activists: pro-communism, pro-abortion, pro-life, anti-Israel, anti-war, pro-Obama, pro-government-run health care, pro-McCain, pro-Ron Paul, anti-illegal immigration, etc.

I was there along with courageous pro-life citizens to present the facts, thorough the media, to the people watching TV. An experience I'll never forget, being outside Saddleback Church was a rousing free-speech battle between truth and lies.
I talked with American, Japanese, and Muslim media to explain why marriage is special and naturally only for a man and a woman. Our 10-foot yellow banner, co-sponsored by CCF and
Life Priority Network, compared McCain and Obama on several moral and social issues: partial-birth abortion, parental notification, marriage on the ballot, gun ownership, and activist judges. On all these the two men are polar opposites.

Rick Warren did a pretty good job, didn't he? It was especially telling that he asked McCain and Obama about marriage protection and when human life begins. The day after, Rick Warren said Barack Obama dodged the question about unborn babies.

And did you notice how Obama lied when he said marriage is only for a man and a woman? Outside, our banner told the truth: Obama opposes protecting man-woman marriage while McCain supports protecting traditional marriage. This is a fact because Obama is officially opposing Proposition 8, the California Marriage Amendment. In contrast, McCain is on record supporting Prop. 8, which defines marriage as only between a man and a woman.

I thank God that our truth-detector banner was seen Saturday night on Los Angeles TV stations. More facts will come out this week when Campaign for Children and Families releases our Presidential Report Card to nationwide media. Read more about Saturday's demonstration and see more photos at savecalifornia.com.

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Barack Obama Needs to Admit It-He Supports Same-Sex 'Marriage' (FRC)

Up to 370 homosexual, bisexual, and transgender delegates will reportedly take part in the Democratic National Convention, which is six percent of the total delegates-a proportion roughly three times higher than in the general American population.

Gov. Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas, a possible running mate for Barack Obama, will be among the prominent speakers at a conference of homosexual activists that has already convened in Denver. But the Denver Post reports that one activist remains "disappointed" that Democrats can't "be honest about what we truly feel is equal."

Research by FRC Action into Obama's statements on same-sex "marriage," reported today in an op-ed by Peter Sprigg on our website, confirms that although presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama claims to oppose same-sex "marriage," what he "truly feels" is support for radically re-defining marriage.

Obama supports granting 100% of the legal rights and benefits of marriage to homosexual couples; opposes virtually any legal means available of defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman (calling marriage amendments "divisive and discriminatory"); "respects" courts that unilaterally overturn the democratically determined definition of marriage; compares legalizing same-sex "marriage" with legalizing interracial marriage; and "congratulates" homosexual couples who have entered into legally-recognized civil marriages.

This is the definition of a supporter, not an opponent, of same-sex "marriage."

Additional Resources
Peter Sprigg: Obama Backs Same-Sex 'Marriage'

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Radical Homosex Attack On Marriage flush with sleaze money... Ohso.

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Six million$6 million. That's what an outside group known as "Let California Ring" is spending on its misleading and manipulative TV ads designed to undermine Prop. 8 in just the next four weeks. And this doesn't even count the millions that have been pledged to the official No campaign by big corporations and Hollywood.

Even worse, they can't even be truthful about their purposes. When confronted about the ad promoting same-sex marriage, "Let California Ring" had the audacity to say the ad had nothing to do with Prop. 8. Even when they are sponsored by a sister organization of the same group -- "Equality California" -- that is behind the No on 8 campaign.

This early onslaught of millions in advertising dollars shows clearly what we are up against... shadowy outside groups who will do anything to stop the Marriage Amendment...  Just last weekend, 15,000 volunteers canvassed precincts throughout California, in an unprecedented show of grassroots support for Prop. 8.

It is precisely because our movement is so strong that our opponents are launching this unprecedented early advertising onslaught. Their $6 million is just the start. Help us fight back against these TV ads and the liberal money machine funding them.

The contrast between the two sides in this campaign couldn't be clearer. Ours is a real grassroots campaign representing Californians from all walks of life. Our opponents rely on a small handful of activist judges, big donors, and media elites to tilt the playing field and distort the truth, because they know they can't win an honest, open campaign about marriage in California.

It's up to us to keep them honest.

I hope you'll help in any way you can today.

Sincerely,

Ron Prentice
Chairman
ProtectMarriage.com

P.S. The opposition's $6 million August ad buy shows the stakes of this campaign. It's up to us to fight back. There is no hidden cavalry waiting to ride in to the rescue at the last minute. You are the cavalry. Thank you.

© 2008 ProtectMarriage.com.

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Radical Homosex Attack on Marriage...

Reposted just those words, to see if it is being CENSORED from the Main 'Home' Page for the Times???

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The Importance of a Shepherd's Touch (FRC)

Pastor Jim Garlow, who leads San Diego's Skyline Church, has done a remarkable job rallying pastors both to take a stand for marriage and mobilize their flocks to participate in the effort to pass California's Proposition 8, the Marriage Protection Amendment.

Last month Garlow led a strategy conference call with 3,400 pastors participating. Florida and Arizona also have marriage amendments on the ballot in November. But in Florida, a 60% supermajority is required for passage, a tall order.

Now comes word that Pastor Clayton Cloer, senior pastor of the First Baptist Church of Central Florida in Orlando, is stepping up to bat to rally churches and awaken pastors to the urgent need for their and their congregations' involvement. John Stemberger, chairman of "Yes on 2," says, "The church is the only remaining institution in society that stands as a beacon of hope...as salt and light to preserve a decaying and lost culture... The church of Jesus Christ can hold the line to protect marriage ...if Florida pastors will lead their people to vote "Yes on 2." Pray for Pastor Clayton Cloer and all the pastors and churches in the Sunshine State.

Additional Resources
Florida Baptist Witness: Cloer to rally pastors for marriage amendment

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Old Media Political Bias and Misandry - such as is a staple of 'reporters' like Lefty Lisa of tha AP Wireheads - still informs almost all their 'reporting' on Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex propaganda...

- As shown by the headline of the latest story about those who are "foes" of marriage between 'Happy People' - Using of course the standard sanitized misleading euphemisms that the Thought Police demand we use to hide the horrors that are the Real Agenda of the Radical Homosex Attack on Marriage and Soceity.

From the 'Funny' pages to the front pages - the Old Media Proganda Blitz is in full spin mode - all the way to election day.

One Could say - that 'the gayness of the gays is not as gay as gays gaily say' OR

All Can Admit that wallowing in the MISANDRY (Hatred of Men, Masculinity and Normal Heterosexuality) that defines the Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist Dyke Coven - is every just as bad for soceity as their Homo-Anal Allies wallowing in (excrement deleted) and demanding the rest of us pretend such Pathological Perversions are a normal 'lifestyle'...

At least we Citizens get a Vote - At least Until our Turkey Baster Creationist Courts overturn it with theirs.

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Calif. gay marriage foes mobilize

...But his strong opposition to same-sex marriage prompted the retired insurance executive and devout Mormon to join thousands of volunteers going door-to-door in support of a ballot initiative that would ban gay nuptials here...

An estimated 15,000 backers of the measure, the vast majority of them members of Mormon, Catholic and evangelical Christian churches, knocked on doors and distributed campaign literature to registered voters throughout the state this weekend and last, according to Jennifer Kerns, spokeswoman for the Yes on 8 campaign...

Ron Prentice, director of the coalition of religious and social conservative groups that qualified the amendment for the November ballot, said the group has ordered 1 million yard signs and 1 million bumper stickers. The plan is for supporters to put up the signs in unison next month, Prentice said.

"Unless the people are angry," Prentice said, "nothing will happen. We are going to change the Constitution and say on Nov. 4, 'Judges, you can't touch this.'"...

"While death and divorce may prevent it in too many cases, the ideal situation for children is to be raised by a married mother and father. Proposition 8 is a positive step."

Frank Schubert, a veteran public relations strategist who is co-managing the Yes on 8 campaign, said... "They want people to feel like you are a bad person if you support what has been the definition of marriage since the dawn of time," Schubert said. By having face-to-face conversations about why the amendment is necessary, organizers hope to reach potential supporters who may worry that voting for the measure would get them labeled as "bigots or homophobes," he said.

Both the Roman Catholic hierarchy and leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have given the backers of the proposed gay marriage ban a big boost by encouraging their members to donate time and money to the measure.

The organizational support being provided by faith communities was evident Thursday night in Fresno, where nearly 500 people packed a "town hall" meeting for the Yes on Proposition 8 coalition... Several ministers discussed why they believe gay marriage threatens religious institutions.

Gay rights advocates "are making the claim that if they can win they can hush the church, silence the pastors and we will not be able to preach the truth as we know it," said Pastor G.L. Johnson...

Bumgarner, who lives in Fresno, distributed handouts listing "Six Consequences if Proposition 8 Fails" that volunteers were encouraged to use as talking points. They included warnings that

ministers who preach against same-sex marriage could be sued for hate speech,

churches would be sued for refusing to host wedding ceremonies for gays,

and that "children in schools will be taught that same-sex marriage is OK."

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Same-Sex Marriage Group Distorts Truth About Florida Marriage Protection Amendment (FRC)

Orlando, FL - Florida Red and Blue, a political committee and front group for a coalition of homosexual rights groups opposing Amendment 2 (the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment), will air a false television ad in an attempt to mislead and scare senior citizens. The ad will be aired on Florida stations during the Democratic National Convention.

The campaign commercial asserts that the marriage amendment is an attempt by the government to interfere "into our private lives." Other parts of the ad state that defeating Amendment 2 would "keep government out of our private lives” and that "personal marriage issues should be decided by you, your family and clergy, not by the government." The ad even claims the amendment will cause senior citizens to lose benefits.

Amendment 2 allows the people, rather than activist judges, to decide how marriage will be defined in Florida. The amendment is necessary because same-sex marriage advocates filed eight separate lawsuits in 2004 seeking to have the courts sanction same-sex marriage. In response to these lawsuits, a broad-based movement began to gather signatures to place Amendment 2 on the ballot and place the definition of marriage in the Florida Constitution.

The campaign commercial also states that "Democrats are united against Amendment 2 in Florida." Over three quarters of a million Florida voters signed a citizen’s initiative petition to get the marriage amendment on the ballot. Well over 33% of those Floridians who signed the petition are registered Democrats. The recent June 3, 2008, Quinnipiac Florida poll demonstrates that a significant 45% of Democratic voters in Florida support Amendment 2. Florida Red and Blue does not represent the majority of Floridians.

Mathew Staver, Founder of Liberty Counsel and Dean of Liberty University School of Law, successfully argued in favor of Amendment 2 at the Florida Supreme Court against the ACLU. In a 7-0 ruling, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that Amendment 2 is about the "singular subject" of marriage and that the effect of the amendment does nothing new but merely protects something old by placing the definition of marriage in the state constitution.

Staver commented on the misleading television ad: "Traditional marriage resonates with voters because it reflects the values of the majority. Radical homosexual groups opposed to traditional marriage know their only chance of defeating Amendment 2 is to resort to lies and scare tactics. Support for traditional marriage transcends political parties. It is a universally shared value."

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Anyone know if Palin has taken a position on CA Prop #8 (Mc Cain Publicly Supports it), as I hear the word from the Alaska Frontier is not good on her positions regarding pandering to the Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions behind the Radical Homosex Attack on Marriage.

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Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell 1984 On the Thought Police.

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So I'm going back to the Frozen North

To the Land where spunk is spunk

Not a lukewarm stream of trickling cream

But a Solid Frozen Chunk.

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California Federal Court Dismisses Challenge to Federal Defense of Marriage Act (LC)

Orange County, CA – During a court hearing yesterday, federal district court Judge David O. Carter announced that he is dismissing a last-ditch effort by "same-sex marriage" proponents to overturn the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). The case is Smelt v. Orange County, and it is one of the last remaining challenges to DOMA. Liberty Counsel intervened in this case on behalf of Campaign for California Families in 2004, in order to protect marriage as the union of one man and one woman and to defend DOMA.

The federal DOMA allows states to reject same-sex marriages from other states. The case began in 2004, when the same-sex marriage advocates claimed a right to same-sex marriage under the state and federal constitutions and also claimed that the DOMA was unconstitutional. The challenge to DOMA in this case was bizarre, because the statute only applies when one state refuses to accept the validity of an out-of-state, same-sex union. In Smelt, the same-sex pair who challenged DOMA had no legal, same-sex union from any state. In 2005, federal district court Judge Gary Taylor ruled that there was no fundamental right to same-sex marriage, and, since the plaintiffs had no legal same-sex union from any state, they could not challenge DOMA. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld this ruling in 2006, dismissing the challenge. The U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the case.

The case remained in suspension, pending resolution by the California Supreme Court regarding whether the state’s Proposition 22, which protected legitimate marriage, was constitutional. Following the ruling by the California Supreme Court on May 15, 2008, the plaintiffs in Smelt continued to press their case against the federal DOMA. However, Judge Carter has now dismissed both state law and DOMA claims.

Mathew Staver, Founder of Liberty Counsel and Dean of Liberty University School of Law, stated, "We are pleased that the federal Defense of Marriage Act still survives, but we cannot continue to hold our breath each time a judge considers the federal law. We are talking about marriage – the very foundation of society. We must have a permanent solution to protect traditional marriage. We must pass more state constitutional protections, and we must emblazon traditional marriage into the United States Constitution to stop activist judges from redefining marriage with a stroke of a pen."

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Attorney General approves Referendum Petition in Mass!  Will force statewide vote of Legislature's repeal of marriage law - to stop exporting "gay marriage" across America! (Mass Resistance)

We are fighting back! The petition drive has begun! On Monday morning Attorney General Martha Coakley released a two-page letter stating that her office has approved the Referendum Petition filed by MassResistance to force the Legislature's repeal of the "1913 Law" to a statewide vote.

Tuesday morning both the Globe and Herald grudgingly announced that MassResistance had cleared the hurdles for signature gathering to begin. It was also on radio news broadcasts across Massachusetts. To put the icing on the cake, the Attorney General - a passionate supporter of the homosexual movement - had felt the need to send the following statement to the media:

"After a thorough review by our office, we have concluded that this referendum petition has met the technical requirements that govern such petitions. Our decision that this referendum meets the Constitutional requirements as to subject matter does not mean that it has our support, but simply that the constitutional requirements are met for the proponents of the referendum to obtain further signatures."

Things moved fast. By Tuesday afternoon the Secretary of State's office had printed thousands of copies of the petition forms, which we picked up immediately. We're off and running!

You can change America! This is a big deal. Besides eventually stopping a horrible social experiment from being forced across the country, this sends some very strong messages.

As we all saw, in the final days of the 2008 session (which ended July 31) the Legislature repealed the "1913 Law", and the Governor signed it in a big State House ceremony surrounded by the gay lobby. This action will allow out-of-state gay couples to get "married" in Massachusetts - and then go back and cause legal havoc in their home states. It also further degrades our own marriage laws.

First, this Referendum Petition is a statement that the people of Massachusetts aren't going to just sit back and take it. We're not going to let a small but powerful special interest be allowed to change our laws at will to push an offensive social experiment across the country.

This is very important. They forced "gay marriage" on us through a radical judiciary and corrupt politicians. They think we're beaten. Well, we're not. Conversely, if we don't fight back now, they have the green light to do anything they want in the future.

Secondly, it shows the Legislature that we can do this in the future if we have to. We're not afraid to stand up to them. And also, it shows the rest of the country that we're not going to allow the homosexual lobby to rule us.

By getting involved now you are on the cutting edge of real change!l

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Thought Policing of Marriage... Nouns Next? Ohso.

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As Caifornia Goes

(IVA) Bradley Watson makes the point that, since California couples can register as domestic partners and get virtually all the rights and privileges historically reserved for married couples, the battle over marriage in California is really about language and whether homosexuals can call a same-sex union a “marriage.”

What the state Supreme Court has done, in legalizing gay marriage by judicial fiat, is assert a “stunning claim: the right to a noun.”

Watson reminds us of the Orwellian nature of this effort to control “the contents of the Oxford English Dictionary” by changing the definition of marriage from what has been throughout all recorded human history.

Orwell recognized that the “political manipulation of language is essential to the full range of thought control,” and, if homosexual activists are successful generations of Americans to come will have no concept of marriage as it has been since the dawn of creation.

The legal entanglements that are sure to follow – as both California and Massachusetts turn into a bi-coastal Las Vegas of homosexual marriage – surely dictate the necessity of a federal marriage amendment. As Lincoln said of the pressing moral issue of his day, “[T]his government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. It will become all one thing, or all the other.”

It should be pointed out that, contrary to Sen. McCain’s position, a federal marriage amendment shows the ultimate respect for states’ rights because it cannot go into effect until 37 states ratify it

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As California Goes, So Goes the Nation (First Principals)
Bradley C. S. Watson - 07/28/08
On May 15, 2008, a narrowly divided Supreme Court of California struck down the state’s ban on same-sex “marriage.” The decision was based on what the Court considered to be an evolution in community values. It flew in the face of the California Constitution’s text, tradition, logic, and structure. As one of the dissenters noted, there is now nothing to stop a future court from declaring bans on polygamous or incestuous marriage to be constitutionally unjustified...

The political and cultural dynamics in California mirror the dynamics of the same-sex “marriage” fight across North America. They portend the end of marriage as it has always been known in the United States. Canada and Massachusetts have already succumbed to judicially mandated same-sex “marriage,” and so will America as a whole unless decisive political action is taken immediately.

The political and cultural dynamics of which I speak look like this:

1. A clear majority of the citizens or legislators within a jurisdiction express their opposition to same-sex “marriage.”
2. A court within that jurisdiction declares same-sex “marriage” to be a right, relying on some variation of an equal-protection argument, and sometimes falsely analogizing prohibitions on same-sex “marriage” to prohibitions on interracial marriage.
3. Politicians immediately cave in, reversing their own very recent opposition to same-sex “marriage.”
4. Procedures and legislation within that jurisdiction are changed to accord with the court’s decision.
5. Same-sex “marriage” advocates, having succeeded in altering “the facts on the ground” as new “marriages” result from judicial decree, wait for their next opportunity to strike.
6. The arguments for the further spread of same-sex “marriage” become relatively more powerful as taboos are shattered, the unthinkable becomes routine, and couples within this wholly new type of relationship—one that has never been recognized anywhere in human history—demand that their status be recognized across jurisdictions....

...Furthermore, in requiring that same-sex couples have the right to call themselves married, courts have engaged in a kind of nominalism that is unknown to the common law. The material benefits of marriage can be conferred through civil union status rather than actual marriage. This means that the courts in Canada, Massachusetts, and California have asserted a stunning claim: the right to a noun.

The arguments advanced by the courts’ majority opinions have less to do with constitutional documents or constitutional reasoning, and more to do with the Orwellian desire to police the English language, allowing parties the legal entitlement to label themselves as they see fit. This revolutionary development in effect gives courts the right to control the contents of the Oxford English Dictionary.

As Orwell foresaw, political manipulation of language is essential to the full range of thought control. It is likely that Americans soon (and it is already coming to pass in the under-30 age group) will no longer have any conception of marriage as is once was, from the beginning of time.

And with this destruction of language goes the last enforced legal distinction between heterosexuality and homosexuality, as well as the very possibility that anyone can maintain moral distinctions between the two kinds of activity.

The natural order itself becomes a matter for our creation, and re-creation. As mutual consent becomes the only touchstone of human life, almost anything becomes possible in the moral realm. And all this, of course, is part of the agenda of the advocates of same-sex “marriage.”

(First Principles - As California Goes, So Goes the Nation)

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Resident Harpy Roll Call!

Calling all Resident Harpies (and you know who you are) - As a gesture of 'goodwill and change' I will take off the filters for your posts on this thread - and actually read what you write, so long is it is ON TOPIC.

Anybody think they can do that, even for a short while???
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ANIMAL MARRIAGE
I do have some questions though - for all those 'same sex' Marriage proponents. The following excerpts are taken from the Hometown Family Newspaper in San Francisco, it concerns the annual sado masochistic public flogging event known as the 'Folsom Street Fair' held in the city.

This BD&SM Festival takes over some 5 city blocks in which the most perverted degenerates the Internet can bring together hold a public carnival of depravity for themselves and the tourists. The morning newspaper ran a front page (2nd section) picture of two butch leather boys in 'harness' and (probably full) diapers publicly performing a "consensual flogging" with the caption "Folsom's Flesh and Fantasy - S.F.'s Wildest street fair marks 20 years of leather, charity." 9/29/03 Sfgate

The story, by Demian Bulwa (no, I didn't make that up, though it do sound a lot like devil bullwhip to me), said in part: "For one day, at least, police adopted an almost-anything goes attitude at the festival, which definitely wasn't good clean fun. No feathers were ruffled, though, perhaps because all of the feathers used to tickle people in places that cannot be mentioned in a FAMILY NEWSPAPER." (emphasis mine)            

The interior follow up page of the story also had a picture, where a leather clad dominator "...hugs his partner, "Animal", after taking him out of bondage at the Folsom fair."  Animal - looks... Well, lets say that there is a lot of leather and metal involved, and a perhaps another diaper that is possibly very full, and leave it at that. You should see the picture, it is worth a thousand words.

Remember, these images are published in a self avowed Family Paper, or at least what passes for one in Sodom by the Sea . The printed quotes tell us further that: "This creates permission for folks to step outside of their personal boxes and look at the scary side of sex." & "For people in the SM community, this is a way to feel open and empowered, to balance out all of the negative stereotypes."
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Some of my QUESTIONS for 'Same Sex Marriage' proponents are:

Isn't it True - that "Animal" and his keeper, as well as the Harness Boys engaged in public dirty diaper flogging, are equally covered under all "same sex marriage / civil union / partners" laws - as the full legal equivalent of a married couple with children?

In fact - Aren't "Animal" and his keeper guaranteed an Equal Right to Adopt, and to Promote their "Lifestyle" as an Equal Alternative one - In the Schools and everywhere else that Heterosexual Married people are represented?

For example - during Tolerance week at school, shouldn't dirty diaper flogging be demonstrated in the playground - to show the proper respect for diversity and tolerance of lifestyle that our courts demand?

Wont it become Illegal to in any way discriminate against "Animal" and keeper - including employment (in harness / dirty diaper) as school teachers?

IF NOT - What Limitations - If Any - are there on full and equal pandering to such behaviors as "Animal" and the Harness Boys publicly displayed, as the equivalent to marriage...

- now that conventional morality is judicially "irrational" and out Turkey Baster Creationist Courts have opened the monkey cage at the zoo for poo flingers of all persuasions to rule society.

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Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality were tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell - 1984  On the Thought Police

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New York Court Affirms Governor's Usurpation of Legislative Power (FRC)

Supporters of same-sex "marriage," who have yet to get it adopted in any state by democratic means, won an interim victory in New York yesterday by again usurping legislative power.

Last May, Gov. David Paterson (D-N.Y.) issued an executive order, unsupported by statutory law, requiring the state to recognize same-sex "marriages" from other jurisdictions. This came even though New York's highest court has already upheld current state law allowing marriage only between a man and a woman.

Paterson's order was challenged in court by the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF)-but yesterday Bronx Judge Lucy Billings upheld the Paterson directive. The sentimental language of her decision made clear that it was based on personal ideology, not the law...

, as she waxed eloquent about homosexual couples making "a personal expression of emotional devotion, support and interdependence and a public commitment." Strangely, she supported her decision by asserting that "nothing is more antithetical to family stability than requiring them to abandon that solemnized commitment"-even though a couple's personal "commitment" was not at issue, only whether the government should reward it.

ADF reportedly plans an appeal, and we hope a higher court will exhibit a higher level of reason, and leave this issue in the hands of the legislature and the people.

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Arrogant Judicial Activism from the Pompous Bigoted Buffoons on Weimar Kalifornia's supreme Turkey Baster Creationist Court is a hallmark of these self anointed 'amoral guardians' of soceity.

Consider just one example - the Disgraceful Nightmare of Orwellian Pandering that is their decision to Destroy Marriage and the Citizen's Right to Define it with thier Own Votes!

Although the language in both Proposition 22 (the now destroyed Defense of Marriage Act - passed by @62% of the voters) and the Current Proposition #8 is simple - and Short...

The Craven Pimps of the Court (by a 4-3 margin) wrote over 100 Pages of convoluted political propaganda in to their decision - with the Intent that Most of It would Remain in Force...

Even if the People Overturned the Decision with their Votes!

This is the essence of 'judicial activism' - and the arrogance of such craven pimps for the pervet hatemonger lobby.

Yes the Citizens Can Vote on Defending their Rights - Just so long as thier Votes Don't Count!

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Darned if You Do - Trashed If You Don't...

Your correspondent is indeed somewhat chagrinned, having done the courtesy to another (leatherman) of providing Requested background verification for information posted - and subsequently being in turn trashed by said cowhide cowboy for daring to post that and other Background Verification information - as well as short concise bullitens from organizations related to defending the citizens from the Attack on Marriage and Soceity.

Heads they win, tails you lose. Post your own self generated information and the Resident Harpies immediately denounce it as without foundation - Post other Relevant information garnered With Attribution to the Original Source (rather than repackaging it to look self generated) - and the Harpy Lament is too much cut and paste for their comfort.

Of course the Harpy Comfort Level is that of Total Censorship - of Any Ungood Facts

No matter what the source.

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Mass Resistance:

Signature drive hits the streets across Massachusetts! Citizens at street corners, churches, supermarkets to stop repeal of marriage law for out-of-state residents. Gay lobby unable to intimidate this time.

People across Massachusetts are fighting back! Starting last week people from one end of the Commonwealth to the other have been at street corners, churches, supermarkets, post offices and even gone door-to-door getting signatures for the Referendum Petition! (And we're still backlogged in getting back to people who have asked for forms.)

The early returns are very good. One woman in Gardner collected over 250 signatures almost immediately. She called again and said she has a hundred more. People are signing. Several gatherers have already asked us to send them more sheets. (The Secretary of State supplied us with several thousand petition sheets -- so we're not running short yet!)

It's not hard to get upset about the Legislature's action. Even though 44 states voted for anti-gay "marriage" legislation, our Legislature repealed Massachusetts marriage statutes to let homosexual couples come here from other states, get "married", and then go to their home states and cause legal havoc under the US Constitution's "full faith and credit" clause. This was done to please a small but powerful special interest push group their social experiment into other states against the will of their residents.

But also, the gay-marriage issue opens the door for pushing a whole range of "same-sex families" indoctrination into public schools in other states (and courts supporting that, as has happened here).

This is a very important fight. It can affect the entire country! And doing this makes a huge statement to our Legislature that the citizens of Massachusetts aren't just sitting back and taking it. As you know, if we get the signatures (minimum 32,900) by Oct. 15, this goes on the statewide ballot and the Legislature CAN'T stop a vote from happening!

Homosexual movement angry that we're fighting back

The homosexual movement has reacted with its usual anger and venom at the idea that someone would challenge their efforts to change our laws and affect other states. In particular, they're angry at Attorney General Martha Coakley for not using some kind of illegal scheme to block our petition. Although Coakley is passionately pro-homosexual, to her credit she decided to properly apply the law in this case rather than trying to subvert it, and the gay lobby is livid about that.

They've also published the names of all the "original signers" of the petition in the homosexual newspaper "Bay Windows", in order to try to intimidate them and others.
They're livid that the Attorney General actually applied the law properly! They're not used to that.

And this time we've taken serious steps to deal with any possible harassment from homosexual activists. The law strongly protects both petitioners and prospective signers, and we're serious about enforcing it. Don't be afraid to call the police.

Handout on how state and federal laws protect you

But people are not intimidated this time, we're finding. Citizens aren't taking it anymore, and have simply stopped being afraid of the radicals. As a result, there seem to be far fewer incidents than in the past.

Get involved. Join this fight! Help collect signatures! Everyone's help is needed! If you haven't already done so, email us or call our office (781-890-6001) and we'll get you started, and also connect you with others.

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The Radical Homosex Attack on Marraige - and thus the foundations of soceity, is a multi pronged approach. The MISANDRY lobby has a vested interest in destroying Masculinity and Normal Heterosexuality, and thus their demands that Men (those Born with Inhereted XY DNA) and Women (those Born with Inhereted XX DNA) be prohibited from asserting the Rational Scientific Basis of their Gender...

And must instead pretend that they are no different from the types of Drag Kings and Queens (some Self Mutilating and some quite intact with original equipment) who choose to manipulate society with thier own depraved 'perceptions'...

Note - In Weimar Kalifornia this is the Law! A Democrap Legislature truly not fit to pass gas has Abolished Gender, signed by our RINO Child PImp Uber Kommandant, Der Arnold, Inc. - and buried so deep in the fine print by a bought and paid for 'Free Press' that the 'Vanilla' hardly noticed the world turned upside down.

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Democracy Under Fire from Transgender Activist (FRC)

Transgender activists in Maryland are fighting to prevent the people of Montgomery County from having a voice on a radical "transgender rights" law passed by the County Council last year. The law is scheduled for a public vote on Election Day, but its supporters are trying to block this exercise in democracy.

Having lost in a lower court, they will bring their case against the referendum to the Maryland Court of Appeals on Monday. Liberals supporting the law have three full-time activists working on the campaign; our side has only volunteers and common sense. This local election will have national implications. To learn how you can help, visit the website of Citizens for a Responsible Government.

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Destiny Calling?

(IVA) Researchers are now telling us about a genetic link to a man’s aptitude for monogamy. A particular gene variant, say researchers, apparently is predictive of whether a man will experience significant marital dysfunction. One researcher said this could actually help men with marital challenges, by enabling them to choose to set aside these genetic impulses.

“You can say, ‘Oh, it is just my DNA, and I am going to ignore it.’” Said another expert, “Knowing there are biological weak links can help you overcome them.” She also concluded, No one is saying biology is destiny.”

This is instructive with regard to the issue of homosexuality, because we are always told by gay activists the exact contrary to what these scientists are saying.

We’re told that biology is in fact destiny, and that individuals are helpless in the face of genetic impulses. Yet clearly these scientists are suggesting that genetic factors are not determinative, which affirms the ministries of those who work to help individuals leave the lifestyle.

Science confirms that there is in fact hope for the homosexual.

(Study Links Gene Variant in Men to Marital Discord - washingtonpost.com)

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55 Days to Save Marriage (www.LC.org)

In November, voters in three states (Arizona, California and Florida) will have the opportunity to amend the state constitution to reaffirm that marriage is the union of one man and one woman. Liberty Counsel is supporting efforts to pass the amendments in these states. We need your help!

In Arizona and California, a constitutional amendment only needs 50% support to pass. But in Florida, any constitutional amendment must be passed by 60% of the electorate. Current polling shows that the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment (known as "Amendment 2") is favored by approximately 55% of Floridians. There is much work to be done.

Action Items for Concerned Americans:

* Encourage your church to celebrate "Marriage Sunday" on October 19, 2008. We are asking ministers to address marriage from a biblical perspective.
* Forward this Liberty Alert to your entire e-mail list of family and friends, and encourage them to subscribe.
* Pass along our talking points about the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment, available on our special web page.
* Read and distribute the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment Fact Sheet.
* Give the information below about the upcoming, free pastors’ briefings to every pastor you know in Florida and to all your friends in Florida for their pastors.
* Pray for victory for the Florida, California, and Arizona marriage amendments.

Florida Pastors’ Briefing Information:
Liberty Counsel is participating in statewide, pastor-led briefings to promote passage of the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment. Please forward information about these free events to every pastor you know in Florida and to all your friends in Florida for their pastors. Pastors should make plans now to attend one of these important briefings:
Jacksonville, FL - Sept. 15
Crestview FL - Sept. 17
Orlando, FL - Sept. 22
Fort Myers, FL - Sept. 23
Miami, FL - Sept. 29

Mat Staver will speak at the events in Jacksonville, Orlando, and Miami. Other special speakers include Pastor Tom Messer, David Gibbs, and Pastor Clayton Cloer. Information about these events is available online at www.supportmarriage.org.

Call 904-596-2411 for further details or for reservations.

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California bans 'brides,' 'grooms' - License rejected for couple seeking traditional marriage. QUEERLY BELOVED - September 08, 2008 By Chelsea Schilling © 2008 WorldNetDaily

ROSEVILLE, Calif. – "Brides" and "grooms" are no longer allowed to marry in the State of California. That privilege is only extended to individuals who allow themselves to be called "Party A" and "Party B" on marriage licenses.

Pastor Doug Bird of Abundant Life Fellowship in Roseville, Calif., was alarmed to find the state now rejects the traditional terms after he officiated his first marriage ceremony last week following the California Supreme Court decision to overturn Proposition 22.

The couple had written the words "bride" and "groom" next to "Party A" and "Party B" because they wanted to be legally recognized as husband and wife. However, the Placer County marriage license was denied. "I received back the license and a letter from the Placer County Clerk/Recorder stating that the license 'does not comply with California State registration laws,'" Bird said in a statement from the Pacific Justice Institute.

It was an "unacceptable alteration," the County Recorder's Office claimed the State Office of Vital Records determined.

"What's next?" Bird wrote in a Sept. 4 letter. "Will the State of California force [ministers] to use the terms "Party A" and "Party B" in the ceremony itself?"

In a 4-3 decision, California's high court declared that legal definitions of marriage as a union between a man and a woman were unconstitutional. Since the ruling, the generic designations have been added to legal documents.

Pacific Justice Institute President Brad Dacus said voters must change the state constitution by voting on the marriage amendment in November if they wish to preserve the traditional meaning of marriage.

"Unless Proposition 8 is passed, heterosexual couples will be forced to wed out of the state if they wish to be officially identified as bride and groom or husband and wife." He said in a statement. "This is a major slap in the face for traditional marriage."

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Gay Lifestyle a "Sewer" of Casual Degrading Sex, Drug Abuse and Misery -Says Homosexual U.K. Documentarian
By Hilary White LONDON, September 10, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A British homosexual journalist admits that his documentary on the London gay scene is likely to "burn every bridge in the gay world I've got."

Simon Fanshawe is a writer and broadcaster who created the documentary "The Trouble With Gay Men" after becoming increasingly alarmed at the shallowness and destructiveness of the "gay lifestyle." The film, made for BBC 3 television, questions the emotional and psychological immaturity, narcissism, nihilism and self-destructive tendencies of many in the homosexual community. Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence."

Fanshawe, who was involved in the early homosexualist political movement, says, "We've fought discrimination and prejudice, only to wreck ourselves with drugs and wild sex."

In his documentary Fanshawe admits that the homosexualist movement has in the main achieved its political goals of equalising homosexuality with natural sexual relations, in abolishing laws against sodomy and creating legal equivalency with marriage and adoption. Given these achievements, Fanshawe asks, "Why do we seem hell bent on behaving like eternal teenagers?"

"We're hooked on vanity, and regard older men with contempt. Despite AIDS we're still chasing the ultimate sexual high and what's more are determined to wreck ourselves on designer drugs. We're happy to assist the straight world in keeping alive the image of all gay men as limp-wristed queens."

He says that he has recently "started to worry" about the ways in which "gay liberation is celebrated" in his hometown of Brighton, a major centre of the homosexual subculture. At the annual "Mr. Gay" beauty pageant, which he describes as a "pathetic display of self-delusion", Fanshawe tells a contestant, "I'm old enough to remember when all those women were fighting against Miss World...What we're all saying about ourselves is that actually to be really gay, properly gay, what you've got to be is cute, and young."

"Extreme vanity" he says, has been "sewn into gay culture." It "is now so mainstream in the gay community that otherwise intelligent young men are happy to be treated as sex objects on a demeaning meat rack." Gay men, he says, are so "hardwired" towards finding casual sexual encounters, some going as far as plastic implants to enhance their appearance, that finding genuine intimacy is "practically impossible."

"Vast amounts of our leisure time are organised around sex, straight or gay. But what gay men have done is organise our identity around sex. And that is corrosive. And to make things worse, promiscuity has become the norm."

The documentarian asks the proprietor of a gay sex bath house, "Paul", who had just related some graphic stories of group sexual encounters in the establishment, "Are we just swimming around in a sewer which we're just sort of saying is normal?"

For objecting to the lifestyle of pursuing casual and "extreme" sex and for holding genuine human intimacy as a goal, Paul told Fanshawe that he is "the closest thing to a straight person in a gay man's body I have ever met. There should be an operation for you, dear."

Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship."

Fanshawe says he is horrified at the lack of emotional involvement and at the willingness of men to engage in "unsafe sex." The film includes statistics that show the deadly consequences of the homosexual lifestyle. One in nine gay men in London is HIV infected and new cases of HIV have doubled in the city in five years. Incidences of syphilis have increased in the same time period 616 per cent.

"Unsafe" sex, he says, is not the only way in which gay men are self destructive. "If there's a new drug, gay men will find it and take it," he states. At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexual man who has "done all the drugs" and now campaigns in gay clubs against the growing use of crystal methamphetamine.

The man, who could not be identified for fear of reprisals from drug dealers, said that crystal meth is preferred in the gay community because it reduces the inhibitions and allows sex to be brought to an "animalistic" level "devoid of emotion." The film says that one in five gay men in London use crystal meth.

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Used 2 Abuse:
Seems that there was a little confusion, deliberate or otherwise, about the quote provide from Blacks Law Dictionary – and its relation to pandering to the hatreds and perversions of the Radical Homosex Lobby. Here it is again:
“Ab abusu ad usum non valet consequentia”
(A Conclusion about the Use of a thing from its Abuse is Invalid)


In the interest of clarification, I offer the following example based on a quote from the U.S. Center for disease control. It is only one of thousands of equally valid justifications for refusing to pander to the intrinsically aberrant, degrading and objectively disordered behaviors that inform and motivate the Radical Homosex Agenda. However, every little bit helps, don’t it?


The  following quote by a Doctor at the U.S. Center for Disease Control (Dr. Harold Feinstein), has been dismissed by homosex activists without ever being deconstructed as to why it is ‘Rong’… Yet it is still factually accurate and physiologically correct, and thus offers explicit (and as yet un-contradicted) evidence of why Homo-Anal (as indeed all [bleep]) behaviors are intrinsically aberrant and objectively disordered.

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Empirical medical evidence clearly demonstrates that the rectum is not designed for intromission by penises, fists, forearms, etc.

Physiologically, the rectum is designed for the expulsion of feces.

When sodomy is performed, the peculiar inward expansion of the [bleep] canal results in a tearing of the lining as well as bleeding [bleep] fissure…

The damage to the rectal wall facilitates access to the bloodstream of Aids-infected sperm and other disease causing organisms
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Consider – The use of something is not defined by its abuse…

The human anus and bowels have a Single Normal Use, the voiding of feces from the body. Occasionally, medical science (say with a Prostate exam / Colonoscopy) may feel the need to invade this one way organ, but it only done out of necessity and then carefully limited and controlled.

Given that it is a one way route for expelling feces, the “Intromission of Penises, Fists, Forearms…” is clearly an aberrant and objectively disordered use of said  anus / bowels. In fact – it constitutes an Abuse, which in turn is used by the Homo-Anal population to demand ‘rights’ that include having society endorse and pander to such perversions.

This is despite the fact that in Homosex Activist centers like San Francisco (better known today as Sodom by the Sea) such behaviors have led to the highest Disease transmission rate in the nation, including Bug Chasing and cross politnating between HIV positive Homo-Anal males engaging in behaviors that the Weimar Kalifornia Courts have found to be “Normal” for that population. Fully one third of all new First Time Aids cases are already Drug Resistant, and a City Health Commissioner who deliberately spreads the disease can’t even be prosecuted.

Likewise – attempts to divert attention from this Abuse, often focus on the use of some sort of rubber barrier, which is supposed to make everything OK. However, whether it is a penis covered with a condom, or a fist / forearm covered with a plastic garbage bag, the same damage is done  to the anus bowels regardless – even if any specific virus is not passed in the process.

Therefore – Forcing the Taxpayers in to Paying for the Cost of Homo-Anal ‘lifestyle’ behaviors (such as supplying the drugs to keep the "Conga Line of Buggery" in operation), which the Radical Homosex lobby Demands be paid for as part of the ‘partners / marriage’ scam being pulled, are indeed an abuse.

Indeed - if Coprophile Activists had to use their own money to pay for the consequences of Homo-Anal Buggery in this state, as opposed to sticking the 'Vanilla' (clueless voters / taxpayers)  with the bill, they wouldn't have near as much money to buy politicians and push perversions on the people. No wonder the push to have full Tax Funded Health Coverage - For Homosex Activists in not others.

A legacy of Abuse - Both of the human body, as well as Society – which the 'Vanilla' are not only expected to pay for, but also turn a blind eye to - unless of course it helps indoctrinate thier kids in it…

All in the name of sham fraud of ‘tolerance.’

Sounds Abusive to me… Even if you don’t use the Latin

Best keep quiet about it though - Wouldn’t want to spread any “Ism-Obia” now would we?

What with everything else going around and all.

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In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

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Homo-Marriage Wreckers

A Syllogism can be defined as either ‘subtle reasoning’ from the General to the Specific (major/minor premise and conclusion) or – A False or Deceptive ‘equation’ designed to mislead; a signature tactic of our Old Media Spin Artistes. Propagandists pushing the Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex agenda of MISANDRY (Hatred of Men, Masculinity and Normal Heterosexuality) at the core of the Attack on Marriage often resort to such gimmicks by employing misleading Syllogisms as a means of Mau Mauing the ‘Vanilla’ (clueless voters / taxpayers) with bogus arguments – particularly around election time.

A recently re-run staging of this tired old scam has been offered by a certain leather headed poster as an alleged ‘debunking’ of positions taken by your correspondent, and thus offers your correspondent a chance to ‘re-debunk’ the Sophistry (half baked sophomore quality ‘odeur’) inherent in this type of pretense at intellectual discourse... And use a few big $5 words himself. Ahem.

The Radical Homosex Attack on Normal Marriage seeks to demean, degrade and devalue the institution to one that actively panders to the Sickest of Hatreds and Vilest of Perversions within the big ‘rainbow tent’ of the Radical Homosex Lobby. Thus – by making no distinctions within their own movement between ‘marriage’ that is Justified by the behaviors of the types of Sado Masochistic Dirty Diaper Bondage and Flogging bears that are on public display at the Frisco Folsom Street Fair each year (next set for 9/28)…

– And all other depraved behaviors sanctioned by their lobby (I know of no boundaries publicly agreed upon by them) – The Homosex Agenda demands the same equivalency they promote within their ranks – to apply equally to the Union between a Man and a Woman seeking to bond and create a family. Simply said, because Homosex Activists embrace all depravity equally – Heterosexual Marriage Must follow their lead!

In response a champion of the leather crowd has once again put forward the smelly old red herring ‘argument’ that because some married heterosexuals engage in degrading behaviors – that this itself means that the Institution of Heterosexual Marriage was already equated with such behaviors and recognized them as Equally Foundational to the Union and its Purpose. Or – In other words -Marriage between all Men and all Women has Always been Equally Justified by the desire of a few to engage in perversions, and this has Always been acknowledged as an Equally Valid Foundation by the Rest of Married Couples… Ahem.

There is a rather simple ‘legal maxim’ that sums up the answer to such sophomoric sillybuggers syllogisms: “Ab abusu ad usum non valet consequentia” (A Conclusion about the Use of a thing from its Abuse is Invalid) – and I just happen to have an analogy handy to illustrate…

Consider – the State issues Drivers Licenses to people only after they demonstrate qualifications and take a test – including one for Eyesight. The Purpose is to promote Safety on the Highway, and this is considered a public good. However, despite these goals sometimes drivers with good eyesight still get in to vehicle accidents, including fatal ones.

The leather head view would be equivalent to Demanding Licenses for Blind People – because they are just as capable of getting in to horrific car wrecks as sighted people – and thus it is ‘discrimination’ to deny them the equal right to play sillybuggers on the highway. Welcome to the ‘logic’ of the left, which would have us pretend in the name of 'tolerance'  that people apply for drivers licenses intending to get in car wrecks.

Because Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex Activists (and our Turkey Baster Creationist Courts) are Adamant that there is No Difference between a Same Sex relationship based on any of their varied agendas (ranging from justifying the Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist agenda of Dyke Misandry – to the Homo-Anal Coprophile Cult… and Beyond) – and All are Equally Valid Basis for Marriage License…

- The Only Way for such propagandists to create an equivalency with the Normal Definition of Marriage is to assert that it has Also long existed for the Express Agreed Purpose of Promoting Heterosexual Perversions (perhaps that was part of the vows at the leatherhead ceremony)– and not for any of the actual reasons put forward by generations of Married Couples; who might just possibly be offended by the notion that they entered in to their Family Building Relationship while publicly intending it to be the same as a Sado Masochistic Flogging Festival…

Of course if they are offended by such ‘equivalency’ with the sick hatreds and vile perversions so recently embraced by our supreme Turkey Baster Creationist Court – this will constitute a ‘Hate / Thought Crime’ and be punishable to the full extent of the ‘Pander or Perish’ Law.

Best keep quiet about it thought, wouldn’t want to spread any “Ism-Obia” now would we – what with everything else going around and all.

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SUBMERSIVE VIEWPOINTS

It has been said of modern techniques developed for improving underwater detection of submarines (the ones on the surface are easier to spot already) that the trend is not to look for telltale noises as a give it away, but at their absence.

In fact, the term “Hole in the Water” is actually what many systems are designed to look for, recognizing that there is a certain background noise to the Ocean, and modern submarines have become sometimes quieter than their surroundings.

So too with modern media censorship techniques, particularly when it comes to promoting the Radical Homosex Agenda BAMN (By Any Means Necessary!). Beyond the simple ‘bait and switch’ scams like homosex ‘marriage’ being pushed upon an unwilling public in the demand for pandering, there is a deeper goal to such Thought Policing that holds ominous portends for the future of Free Speech.

A timeless example of this sort of Thought Policing can be seen in the story (Or Un-Story) of the U.C. Berkeley Debate on homosex ‘marriage’ that took place on April 19, 2004 – and the refusal of many local media to even acknowledge it happened, let alone provide an easy link for citizens to view this exchange.

This “Censorship by Omission” is particularly striking in Homosex Propaganda organs like the San Francisco Chronicle (aka – the Crock-a-Bull or the ‘Crock’), which fastidiously reports on all manner of homosex issues, except of course those involving the creation and spread of new drug resistant strains of homosex diseases.

. In fact, while the Crock regularly slants and downplays any reporting on those taking a public stand against pandering to homosex hatreds and perversions, it does usually report on them – although invariably giving the last word in the story to a pro-homosex critic with a pithy sound bite.

The U.C. Berkeley Debate is being treated in a Quite Different Manner However.

In fact, I haven’t seen one mention in the ‘Crock’ of this rare occurrence - An open and balanced public debate about the issue, featuring equal numbers of knowledgeable speakers in a balanced and moderated exchange. The East Bay Old Media / CC. Times did report on it (in an execrably biased pro-homosex dismissal by R. Meyers on 4-20 - possibly one in the same as the Red Herring poster known as 'honestlyrandymuffy2u)), but did such a poor job with the facts that it could not have been a mistake.

I submit that the reason that this event is not being reported on , and the link to the web site where it can be viewed omitted from what reporting does take place, is that Radical Homosex activists in the media don’t want anyone to know what happened there.

Seems that the first time these Radical Homosex activists got Caught in the Open in an Unbiased Forum that they could not hijack, mau mau, censor or edit – Well, lets just say that they didn’t come off as well as they hoped…

-Because if they told the truth it would be apparent that the Radical Homosex lobby lost big time in an open debate, and they want to hide the shame of the fact from view by the public.

Soooooooo… Looks like I will have to provide an analysis of this event in posts to come, in as much as I was present and paying close attention (particularly to the games played by Carol Migden, what a vile hateful harpy is that one) – and share insights that the pro-homosex media just doesn’t want published.

Here’s Lookin At You – Humphry Go Bart

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Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell – 1984 On the Thought Police.

For those who want to compare my future reporting to the CC Times (or lack of reporting by the Crock) I have a link with the outline from U.C. Berkeley:
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Symposium on Same Sex Marriage: Law & Politics
2004-04-20 The Lipman Room, UC Berkeley
Panel 1: The Law - A Roundtable
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Running time: 2 hours, 4 minutes
Panel 2: The Politics
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Running time: 1 hour, 45 minutes
This symposium focuses on the legal and constitutional issues surrounding the right to marry for same sex couples and its national political fallout. Recent state appellate court decisions have launched a national controversy over the issue of expanding the definition of traditional state-sanctioned marriage to include same sex partners. This event brings together the leading voices and forces engaged in this public policy debate. The symposium includes a broad and diverse spectrum of legal scholars, experts, advocates, and political scientists.
Panel 1: The Law - A Roundtable
This roundtable discussion features legal scholars, practitioners, and experts exploring the legal and constitutional issues associated with same sex marriage. Each panelist is given 5 minutes to give an opening statement followed by a moderated exchange among all roundtable participants.
Moderated by Rachel Moran, Boalt Hall Raven Professor of Law & Director of the Institute for the Study of Social Change (ISSC).
Panelists:
• Alan Chambers, Executive Director, Exodus International
• Teresa S. Collett, Professor of Law, University of St. Thomas School of Law
• Evan Gerstmann, Professor of Political Science & Law, Loyola Marymount University
• Kate Kendell, Executive Director, National Center on Lesbian Rights
• Andrew Koppelman, Professor of Law, Northwestern University School of Law
• Roger Magnuson, Dean- Oak Brook College of Law & Government Policy
• Carole Migden, Chairwoman, California State Board of Equalization
• Jeffery Ventrella, Senior Vice President, Alliance Defense Fund
Panel 2: The Politics
For the politics panel, panelists deliver 15 minute presentations followed by a 30 minute exchange among the panelists led by the moderator.
Moderated by Bruce E. Cain, Robson Professor of Political Science & Director of the Institute of Governmental Studies (IGS).
Panelists:
• Robert H. Knight, Director, Culture & Family Institute, Concerned Women for America
• Ken Sherrill, Professor of Political Science, CUNY-Hunter College
• Winnie Stachelberg, Political Director, Human Rights Campaign
• Randy Thomasson, Executive Director, Campaign for California Families
For more information, visit the Institute of Governmental Studies website.
Sponsored by the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies (IGS) & Institute for the Study of Social Change (ISSC).

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However, I still do maintain that it is a very big deal when a paper like the San Francisco Chronicle (aka Crock-A-Bull) under the ‘leadership’ of the likes of editor Phil “Lizard Bait” Bronstein chooses to ignore someone like Tammy Bruce.

Politically controversial homosexual activists like Bruce are as much the natural prey of such newspapers, as are the big toes of big cheeses like Phil the natural prey of nearsighted lizards. It just doesn’t make sense that they would ignore such a person, if not done deliberately.

Whatever else you may think of San Francisco, it Is the Homo-sexual Capitol of Weimar Amerika, with the Homosex Castro District as ground zero for the #1 Syphilis transmission rate (mostly among HIV positive Homo-Anal males) in the entire nation. That alone should be enough to warrant attention to Tammy Bruce, as she talks about San Francisco and epidemics amongst the homo-anal population.

The Crock is also the paper of record for much of northern Kalifornia, and looked to for highly biased and slanted political information by people far beyond the borders of Frisco. How can they be properly dis-informed, if the Crock won’t even present a biased slant on Tammy Bruce, but avoids her completely?

When the paper of record for the north devotes huge amounts of print to coverage of an unprecedented recall election and the subsequent transition, in which a homosexual feminist activist like Bruce plays such a large part, and doesn’t even mention her – there is a lot more going on than just simple oversight.

Just to set the record straight – I am not a follower or even much of a fan of Ms. Bruce. If one were to risk accusations of phallic comparisons, she could be compared to a Trojan Horse, kind of like David Horowitz, only cuter. To use a different language, that of the ‘Revolution’ of the oppressed against the penis patriarchy – she represents the gains consolidated from the attack according to the two for one formula.

This latter concept is based on the simple scam that when one takes two steps forward on the attack, and then retreats one step backward when confronted – some people see this as being conciliatory and compromising. In fact, it is simply a scam to advance the one step retained, as a foundation to taking the next one… and so on.

Bruce’s position is also a fall back position, for when the ultra radicals are finally sent packing. However, while Tammy Bruce advocates some positions that are just as reprehensible as those she calls radicals, she also employs a truly unique communication technique (for that bunch) which is the source of her being banned in many areas by the same radicals – to wit, telling the truth when the facts are unavoidable.

It is here where Bruce really earns her censorship kudos – because she breaks ranks with the Homo-Anal population in a major manner, as well as GLSEN and others. This is heresy of the first order, and produces a huge backlash.

The hook here is that she isn’t saying anything that other folks don’t already know, just that she is being honest enough to admit that which is plain as day – particularly when it comes to the nature of Homo-Anal perversions. This can be seen in the example from her book – The Death of Right and Wrong - deploring the Feces Stuffing show at the Frisco Art Institute.

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From The "Death of Right and Wrong" by Tammy Bruce: S. F Art Institute “scholar” Jonathan Yegge (with approval from instructor Tony Labat) produces a ‘work’ for his ‘school’ entitled Public Enema #2, using another student volunteer to assist; in order to meet a course requirement. He described his “art” to the publication ‘San Francisco Weekly’ (Story by Matt Smith 3/23/00) as follows:
“He (the student volunteer) was tied up. He had a blindfold and a gag, but he could see and talk through it. He had freedom of movement of his pelvis. I engaged in oral sex with him and he engaged in oral sex with me. I had given him an enema, and I had taken a [bleep] and stuffed it in his [bleep]. That goes on, he [bleep]s all over me, I [bleep] on him. There was a security guard present. There was an instructor from the school present. It was videoed and the piece was over.”

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That Bruce has denounced the above behaviors is seen as such a betrayal by her former comrades, that they want to banish her from the media if possible.

Consider the following and ask yourself how many newspapers would publish such truths as she tells, even if the source for the facts was one of the very insiders formerly pulling the scam???

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From the Death of Right and Wrong By Tammy Bruce:
“GLSEN Wants Your Children (P-103) - …The Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network describes itself as ‘the leading national organization fighting to end anti-gay bias in K-12 schools.’ This organization, which cloaks itself in a mantra about “tolerance” and “understanding” is implementing programs in public schools that are aimed at nothing less than sexualizing your children.”

“Make no mistake… GLSEN is a national organization with one thing in mind: getting to your child through the open door at school. Take it from GLSEN. Their website states, ‘Thousands of volunteers participate in our national chapter network. These chapters work with local school boards, principals, educators and librarians…”

How does a group like GLSEN survive? With corporate sponsorship (including AOL- Time Warner, General Motors, IBM, Pacific Bell…)… I wonder how many of the executives are aware tat their money is helping to teach “Fisting” techniques to children, while encouraging gay male sex during the plague?”

“It’s ELEMENTARY (P-107) GLSEN isn’t alone when it comes to using children and the school system to promote the radical gay agenda. A documentary film called IT’S ELEMENTARY: TALKING ABOUT GAY ISSUES IN SCHOOL offers a look at that agenda in action.

The film, which actually uses children to move its message, is supposed to show teachers and others who to advocate homosexuality to children in grades one through eight. In perhaps a more subtle way than GLSEN’s conference, ITS ELEMENTARY endorses the idea of homosexuality, bashes religion, and mocks people who believe homosexual activity is wrong.”
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No wonder ole “Lizard Bait” at the Crock-A-Bull wants her silenced – somebody might get the right impression from reading this stuff.

Cant have that now, can we? Wouldn’t want to spread any “Ism-Obia”…

What with everything else going around and all.

Ohso

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No Papa Paperwork

The “Creators” (blessing and peace be upon their bank accounts) of the worlds greatest exploding action puppet movie – ‘Team America – World Police’ have done much to raise world youth awareness of the shenanigans going on in North Korea under evil despot Kim Jung Il. Like his movie counterpart Dr. Evil, the main goal of Il’s operation seems to be a blend of extortion and or outright extermination, depending on how badly pissed he is at you at the moment. For instance ,the scene depicting Dumping (UN Inspector) Hans Blix in the Shark Tank provides an excellent example of the later type mood shift.

Unfortunately, ole Il – like Dr. Evil, faces one significant problem with the campaign to destroy the world… The fact that He also is standing on the surface of said world, and that the odds are good that what goes around is going to eventually come around, one way or another. In short, destruction beyond a certain scale is in fact quite often a case of self-destruction, and while this may be the goal of all true evil megalomaniacs, as a long-term solution for the rest of us it leaves much to be desired.

However, from a 21st century perspective, the likes of Il and Evil are really throwbacks to a cruder and less enlightened age of destruction, and their viewpoints on extermination decidedly 20th century. Perhaps the single greatest example of this deficiency as seen in Team America, is the Lack Of Paperwork associated with extermination pogroms being pushed (sometimes literally) around the political dunk tank. In short, the job is not finished until the paperwork is done; as proper paperwork is in fact the major part of the extermination process,… just ask (nazi homosex henchman) adolf eichman.

Thus it is with a mixture of chagrin mingled with a small amount of awe, that we come to what must be the emerging 21st century gold standard for extermination pogroms; the campaign against the despised and disposable male minority being waged by the [bleep] dyke hate mongers of the Radical Homosex lobby as part of the ongoing bait and switch scam of homosex ‘marriage’. They at least have seen fit to properly take care of the paperwork in advance of the final solution to the male problem, as recent pro-extermination rulings in the Kalifornia Courts have upheld.

A recent Old Media (CC Times 1/1/05) propaganda piece contains an article that outlines some of the preliminary steps taken by these misandristic hate mongers in their effort to eliminate men in the law. before eliminating them physically. One hopes this will not be a forced elimination process like that of their male homosex nazi predecessors, who used gas and fire to dispose of those their hatred targeted; but instead a kinder and gentler sort of attrition, only different.
Consider the following quote from the CCTimes (1/1/05 L. Romney) article about new homosex pandering laws taking effect in Kalifornia:

“One indication of the growing acceptance of domestic partner arrangements comes from the California Department of Health Services, which is updating its birth certificates to replace the lines for “Mother” and “Father” with the gender neutral “Parent and Parent”.

Compare this with another quote taken from “Trial” (the magazine of the radical gender feminist activist ‘American trial lawyers’ 10/04) under a headline saying:

MOM CAN BE ‘DAD’ CALIFORNIA COURT SAYS

“A former partner in a lesbian relationship can use the presumed-father provision of the Uniform Parentage Act (UPA) to establish legal parentage… The court noted that the so called PRESUMED-FATHER provision of the Uniform Parentage act - (in the judges view)
When read in a GENDER NEUTRAL manner, provides that a woman is presumed to be a parent of a child if [s]he receives the child in to [her] home and openly holds out the child as h[er] natural child.”

Of course the ATLA also runs article praising such hate mongers as Katherine Mackinnon and Dworkin ("All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is anact of violence perpetrated against a woman… In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." ) as the ultimate authorities on Sexual Harassment / Discrimination law, and the Ideal political role model for young female lawyers to emulate in their dealings with the hated male minority.

In essence, the radical homosex Bait and Switch scam is so blatant as to require a monumental ‘Doublethink’ to even try and swallow the fishy smelling lure. However, the Paperwork doesn’t lie, so these children must have NO FATHER (even on their birth certificate) in order to satisfy the Turkey Baster Dyke Ideal of Eliminating Men; even the mention of them.

Further, this is not just a case by case decision that some men are not fit fathers, but rather a PRESUMPTION IN THE LAW that Children Do Not Have Fathers, even on their Birth Certificates. It is not just the hated male penis that is banned from what is fundamentally HETEROSEXUAL REPRODUCTION (all children have both a mother and father, even if the Man only visited a dead beat dad factory and deposited in the sperm bank there) but the entire fact that Every Child has a Male Parent.

This is made doubly strange by the fact that children get their sexual identity from their same gender parent. For instance, a male child born to turkey baster dykes using ‘insemination’ – will have the same genetic code in his sperm as did the (we won’t call him father) deadbeat non-dad. In essence, their hatred of men is so pervasive that even boys are taught to despise their reproductive heritage from birth.

Needless to say, but I will anyway, once the paper work is out of the way and maleness is legally eliminated as a factor in reproduction and parental rights, then the court house door opens to a truly brave new world. A golden land of golden turkey baster babies and their penis free ‘parents’, and not a pig in sight to say otherwise, at least not allowed in court to do so.

Best keep quiet about it though.

Wouldn’t want to spread any “Ism-Obia”

What with everything else going around and all

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A Guide to Same-Sex Marriage From the Manufacturer’s Instruction Manual.http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3337.html

19 April 2004 - Some of My Best Friends are Gay
By Samuel Silver, Chairman, Toward Tradition <http://www.towardtradition.org/>, a national movement of Jewish and Christian cooperation, fighting anti-religious bigotry and secular
fundamentalism.

The debate about legal recognition of same-sex marriage is ultimately
grounded in our understanding of human nature, values, and the role of
human relationships in creating and defining the type of society we desire.
For the vast majority of Americans, these issues are understood in the
context of the Bible and religious traditions, the “Instruction Manual”
provided by our “manufacturer.”1

This critical debate is not truly between homosexuals and heterosexuals; it
is between two opposing worldviews, one secular and the other
religious.2  Approximately 80% of Americans hold a religious
worldview,3  but the secular left has done an excellent, yet nefarious, job
of dividing those with a religious worldview through false stereotyping.
Their manipulative “divide & conquer” strategy has led many religious
people to erroneously fear other religious people more than they fear the
secular fundamentalists set on destroying religion and Judeo-Christian
values. Thus, many Americans are understandably confused about the same-sex
marriage issue and its ultimate driving force, secular fundamentalism.

Everyone does not fit neatly into the purely religious or purely secular
worldviews, but “sitting this one out” is not a viable alternative. The
stakes for our families and free society are too great. We have to join one
team or the other, so we must each choose which team is closer to our own
personal values, or which team is further from our values. To avoid a
choice is still a choice -- one for the other team.

The Religious Position

Everyone knows the secular and radical “gay rights” side of the argument;
the public schools, universities, and mass media faithfully present it to
us. Fewer understand the religious side of the argument, which is falsely
portrayed as ignorant, bigoted, hateful, intolerant, and homophobic. A
proper understanding of the religious position is necessary if a real
debate is to take place prior to the destruction of a 5,000-year-old
institution by a minority of citizens, against the will of the majority.

To discuss the religious view of human nature is not to ignore science,
which also informs the opinions of Americans. Many people may not be aware
that modern science is belatedly learning that the Biblical view of human
nature is more accurate than the views that have been the foundation for
most of secular liberalism. In his courageous new book, The Blank Slate,
The Modern Denial of Human Nature, MIT professor Steven Pinker, himself a
secular liberal, concludes “…the theory of human nature coming out of the
cognitive revolution has more in common with the Judeo-Christian theory of
human nature …than with behaviorism, social constructionism, and other
versions of the Blank Slate.” Those that think religion is just ancient
superstition should take a second, or in many cases, a first look.

To discuss the religious view in dealing with matters of public policy is
also not to ignore the “Separation of Church and State,” a 19th century
metaphor mistakenly assumed to be in the U.S. Constitution. Unlike humans,
who are born morally “tabula rasa” with a blank slate, the United States
was not created morally “tabula rasa” as a secular nation. The unifying
moral principle of this country’s founding was a religious faith in a
divine Creator and the freedom of each individual to practice his or her
religion (or no religion) without interference from the government.

The Founders believed that religious faith, particularly the
Judeo-Christian tradition, provided the objective ethical basis needed for
a free society to properly function. To this very day, the majority of
Americans share this belief, so to ban religion from the “public square” is
to radically redefine America into a secular nation in opposition to both
the principles upon which it was created and the wishes of the majority of
its citizens.

The government, as defined in the First Amendment and explained by its
author James Madison, must remain neutral between various sects of
religion, but is not required to remain neutral between religion and
irreligion.4  In the wise words of Thomas Jefferson, so frequently and
erroneously presented as an atheist, “The God who gave us life, gave us
liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have
removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that
these liberties are a gift from God?”

A review of traditional Judaism’s opposition to homosexuality, and most
importantly its public sanction with the legal recognition of same-sex
marriage, will highlight the fallacies many well-meaning people, Jew and
non-Jew, have apparently accepted.5  (Judaism will guide this discussion,
although the general ideas should be in agreement with traditional
Christianity.)

To have compassion and tolerance for all of God’s children is admirable and
a mitzvah (commandment) under Jewish law, but there is no way Jewish law
and tradition can be perverted to endorse and publicly sanction same-sex
marriage.

The “Instruction Manual” is clear and unequivocal. “You shall not lie with
a man as one lies with a woman, it is an abomination.”6
The ultimate
punishment for homosexuality along with the other sexual sins listed in
this section, such as bestiality and incest, is kares; God “cutting off”
their souls (spiritually) from the midst of their people.
Kares is
generally understood to be exacted after death, and is considered one of
the most severe punishments for a sin. In Judaism, the harshness of the
punishment assigned to a sin, whether or not meant to be carried out by
humans, helps us understand the relative seriousness of the sin.

Obviously, sexual immorality is a very serious matter for Jews, but Judaism
also teaches that sexual immorality, including homosexuality, is
universally prohibited to all humans as one of the seven Noahide Laws,
God’s “natural law” for all mankind.7

The very first commandment in the Bible comes immediately following God’s
creation of human beings, male and female together and equally in His
image. God commands us to “Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and
subdue it.”8  The great 19th century sage, Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch,
describes this fourfold mission as a guide to the “whole free-willed moral
development of the human race:” Fruitful is marriage, multiply is the
family, fill the earth is society, and subdue it is property, i.e. the
“mastering, appropriating and transforming the earth and its products for
human purposes.”9

Rabbi Hirsch further points out the critical nature of heterosexual
relationships, based on the Commandment for “man to leave his father and
mother and cleave unto his wife, and they will be one flesh.”10  “Man is
not unique among living beings in having a sexual life. But other creatures
require mating only for the purpose of breeding; because male and female
were created simultaneously, they can function independent of one another.
Man is different: woman was created from man to show that only in a
partnership do the two of them form a complete human being.”11

While a small percentage of humans may subconsciously desire a same-sex
relationship because it is less complex and challenging, God warns us to
consciously overcome that desire and understand that He created the female
to be “a helper corresponding” to the male. As the sages explain, “A wife
is neither man’s shadow nor his servant, but his other self, a ‘helper’ in
a dimension beyond the capability of any other creature.”12  Interestingly,
the Hebrew word, kinegdo, here translated as “corresponding to him,” may
also be translated as “against him” or “opposite him;” reflecting the
built-in complexity and difficulty of the complementary relationship
between man and woman.

So humans, originally created as male and female, then separated, must
rejoin not just physically, but spiritually to create a civil and
prosperous society. Our Creator did not design us to achieve this necessary
spiritual unity with same-sex relationships.

But humans do not like rules defining and inhibiting our behavior, so we
use our God-given ability to rationalize almost anything and accept
erroneous ideas in order to ignore those rules.

Fallacy #1: Natural Inclination Equals Acceptable Public Behavior

Whether a homosexual inclination is caused by genetics, hormonal changes in
the womb, psychological development, or mere whim is completely irrelevant.
The Creator of human nature would not have prohibited homosexual activity
if He did not design this inclination to be controllable by human free
will. He gave us free will to control the multitude of inclinations that we
all possess to varying degrees. Some are extremely difficult to control,
but we are discussing human behavior, not a passive trait such as skin color.

God also gave us mortal and physical humans commandments to guide us in the
choices we make, in order to elevate ourselves spiritually -- not to live
as instinctual animals, but as rational human beings created in His image.
And our volitional efforts are necessary so the spirituality we attain will
have a distinct human involvement.

As Maimonides (1135-1204), one of Judaism’s greatest philosophers and legal
codifiers, taught:

It is “possible for a person to be born with a tendency to one of the
virtues or one of the shortcomings – i.e., conduct [representative of this
trait] will come easier to him than other types of conduct. He should not
say that these shortcomings are already ingrained in his character and
cannot be removed. For in every situation a person has the choice of
changing from good to bad, and from bad to good. The choice is in his hands.”13

Without free will, there is no basis for morality or for that matter
Judaism or Christianity; so to argue that homosexuality or any prohibited
behavior is OK because it is a “natural” inclination is an
oxymoron.14  After all, some scientists believe that people are born with
inclinations to be violent or criminal or even pedophiles.  Do we then
condone and sanction these anti-social actions because they were born that way?

Those who believe modern science has proven homosexual activity is
impossible to control, resist, or even change; and believe that people who
disagree are ignorant and “homophobic,” should be more open-minded and
check their premises.15  Regardless of propaganda in the mass media, there
is no scientific evidence demonstrating that homosexuality is either innate
or immutable.16

Fallacy #2: Opposition To Same-Sex Marriage Is Hateful Homophobia

Many view the legalization of same-sex marriage as eliminating
“discrimination” in a desire not to make anyone “feel” uncomfortable, as if
there is a Constitutional right not to “feel” uncomfortable. They even
tie-in discussions of same-sex marriage with “hate crimes” legislation.
Therefore, it is important to distinguish between “hating the sin” and
“hating the sinner.”

The idea that opposition to homosexual activity and its public sanction is
equivalent to or leads to hatred of individual homosexuals is a “big lie”
created to demonize, intimidate, and silence opponents of the “gay rights”
agenda. And the data confirms the “big lie.” Every crime of violence
against another human being is reprehensible, but according to the latest
FBI Hate Crimes statistics, it is estimated that less than 0.0001 of
homosexuals were victims of violent assaults; not exactly an epidemic of
homophobic rage spreading across America. 17

In one of the founding documents of the “gay liberation” movement,
published in the mid-1980’s, the National Gay Task Force laid out their
plan to create this “big lie.” 18

- The first order of business is the desensitization of the American people
concerning gays and gay rights.

- Almost any behavior begins to look normal if you are exposed to it enough.

- The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes
thoroughly tiresome.

- Where we talk is important. The visual media, film and television, are
plainly the most powerful imagemakers in Western civilization. The average
American household watches over seven hours of television daily. Those
hours open a gate: the private world of straights, through which a Trojan
horse might be passed. As far as desensitization is concerned, the medium
is the message of normalcy.

- Portray gays as victims. In any campaign to win over the public we must
be cast as victims in need of protection, so that straights will be
inclined by reflex to assume the role of the protector.

- We can undercut the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying
them as antiquated backwaters badly out of step with the times.

- At a later stage of the media campaign for gay rights, it will be time to
get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified…The
public must be shown images of ranting homophobes whose secondary traits
and beliefs disgust Middle America. These images might include: the Ku Klux
Klan demanding that gays be burnt alive or castrated; bigoted southern
ministers drooling with hysterical hatred to a degree that looks both
comical and deranged. These images should be combined by a method
propagandists call the bracket technique.

The propagandists have been extremely successful! We let their Trojan horse
enter our homes unabated, and we let them infect the minds of our children.
But it is still a lie, built on anti-religious bigotry.

Judaism and Christianity both abhor the sin of homosexual behavior, but
only teach love, respect, and toleration for individual fellow humans --
all created in the image of God. Religious people who believe homosexual
behavior is a sin and oppose same-sex marriage can sincerely say, “Some of
my best friends are gay!”

The fact is that a person practicing homosexuality has committed a
religious sin, a very serious one in God’s eyes, but so has a Jew who
doesn’t keep Kosher, observe the Sabbath, or violates any of the
Commandments. They are no less Jewish, and society lives and deals with
these “sinners” in a variety of amicable, tolerant, and neighborly ways
without creating special legal “rights.” This same tolerance applies to
homosexuals. 19

Truly religious people are tolerant of others with whom they disagree and
can live peaceably and neighborly with them in a free society. 20  This is
especially true in America where the political environment has always been
one based on respect for and protection of individual rights. But the “gay
rights” movement does not want tolerance; they want nothing less than
forced acceptance of their lifestyle as normal, healthy, and moral; a
position most religious people must reject for themselves and their
children. And this is where the problems arise.

This undemocratic use of government force by a minority of citizens is at
its most despicable when public schools are used to impose these ideas on
children of religious families. 21  And as if this use of public schools
for ideological indoctrination were not enough, they then use judicial
activism to control private organizations, such as the Boy Scouts, which
are only remotely connected to the government.

Are there intolerant religious people? Of course, but they represent only a
small minority not fully observing a basic tenet of both Judaism and
Christianity, “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” 22  Their religious practice,
however flawed, at least constrains their behavior, and in the long run it
is an effective tool for improving their humanity.

On the other side, without religion as the basis for the public moral
culture, what will constrain behavior and lead to an improvement of
humanity? What will restrain secular intolerance from infecting not a small
minority, but a large majority? History’s grand experiment with a secular
society, Communism, was an evil and dismal failure that killed over 100
million innocent people in the 20th Century. 23  Add to that the Holocaust
perpetrated by the socialist, neo-pagan Nazis. All of the (Judeo-Christian)
religious wars in the history of the world pale by comparison. 24

Could a secular society result in a nation as great as the United States?
Anything is possible in a perfect world, but in our imperfect world, no
such society has yet approached the freedom and the spiritual and material
prosperity of the United States.

Those who wish to ban religion from the “public square” and impose
secularism on the majority of Americans would do well to rethink their
position – the grass is not always greener on the other side. As Benjamin
Franklin wrote to Thomas Paine in an attempt to persuade Paine to abandon
his anti-religion essays: “If men are so wicked with religion, what would
they be if without it.” 25

Fallacy #3: Same-sex Marriage Is A Private Act Between Consenting Adults

The hidden [sins] are for Hashem, our God, but the revealed [sins] are for
us and our children forever, to carry out all the words of this Torah.
-- Deuteronomy 29:28

The sages explain that Moses is teaching, “hidden sins are the province of
God alone, and He holds no one responsible but the sinners themselves. But
everyone is obligated to safeguard…against openly committed sins.”
26  Thus, homosexual activity between consenting adults practiced in
privacy is primarily a sin against God, and He will deal with it. It is not
a matter for government regulation. The same cannot be said about same-sex
marriage.

Most people may be surprised to know that the debate over same-sex marriage
is not new. As the wise King Solomon taught us, “There is nothing new under
the sun.” The Bible teaches that God brought on the Flood in Noah’s time
because, “all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth.” 27  A
fascinating Midrash (ancient rabbinic commentary on the Bible) teaches:
“the generation of the Flood was only blotted out from the world because
they wrote marriage contracts for males and for females.”28

Later, the Talmud teaches that Noahides (monotheistic non-Jews) who did not
observe all of the Noahide laws at least did “not write a marriage contract
for males…”29  In explaining this discussion, Rashi, the great 11th century
commentator on the Bible and Talmud, points out the vital distinction
between private actions and public policy:

Even though they are suspected of homosexuality and sequester themselves
with males for intercourse, nevertheless, they are not so irresponsible
about this commandment that they would write a marriage contract for them.

There are serious consequences to a society that officially sanctions
activities the vast majority of its citizens accept as immoral. We ignore,
at our own peril, the infinite difference between acceptable private and
public behavior, especially for families raising children with a focus on
future generations, a challenge very few homosexuals share.

To publicly sanction same-sex marriage is to implicitly sanction the
short-term outlook on life inherent to homosexuality. A perfect example of
the disastrous public policy effects of this sort-sighted viewpoint was the
“father” of FDR’s New Deal, economist John Maynard Keynes. A major flaw in
Keynes’ thinking was his concentration on the short-term. He thought that
focus on the long run was utterly futile and one of the great mistakes in
economics. He abhorred "savings," thought the "abstinence" of people
impedes the growth of wealth, and believed savings are always a potential
threat to economic progress.

One of the leading economists of the 20th Century, Joseph Schumpeter, noted
the connection between Keynes’ flawed ideas and his "childless and
essentially short run philosophy of life" when he said, "for a person
committed to homosexuality, who is without descendants, there is little for
them to focus the future on."30  It is not a coincidence that the Hebrew
word in the Bible for “children” is linguistically the same as “builders.”

As economist and political philosopher Thomas Sowell explains,31

Marriage is not an individual right. Otherwise, why limit marriage to
unions of two people instead of three of four or five? Why limit it to
adult humans, if some want to be united with others of various ages, sexes,
and species. Marriage is a social contract because the issues involved go
beyond the particular individuals. Unions of a man and woman produce the
future generations on whom the fate of the whole society depends. Society
has something to say about that.

If society elects not to say anything about it and abandons the primacy of
the traditional family, with its focus on children and future generations,
we also abandon our connections to past generations, traditions, and
history. All we will be left with is a “present” filled with hedonistic
irresponsibility. And we don’t have to wait too long -- just look around!
This current attempt at a perpetual age of adolescence, if not halted soon,
will lead at an increasingly rapid rate to the uncontrollable destruction
of civil society.

The Emperor Nero reportedly “went so far as to write a marriage contract
for one of his favorite male lovers.”32  Do we really want to follow the
Roman Empire into decline and ruin? It is critical to recognize the
essential difference between a society where homosexuality is practiced
privately and one that actually gives it official sanction and recognition.

Fallacy #4: Economic Benefits For Homosexuals Can Only Be Obtained By
Government Force

Proponents of same-sex marriage claim all they really want are equal
“rights” for homosexuals who live together as couples. This is very
appealing to Americans who historically have been tolerant and fair; but it
is a false argument.

Before new “rights” are created, it is only logical to ask what is their
source. The “revolutionary” achievement of the Founders of the United
States was their recognition that neither they nor any government could
create rights. This was in complete contrast to the historic Divine Rights
of Kings or the modern systems of man-made collective rights, such as in
the former Soviet Union.

The individual rights of man were from God, as the Declaration of
Independence clearly states:  “We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
certain unalienable Rights…” President John F. Kennedy confirmed the divine
source of these rights in his Inaugural Address, “…the same revolutionary
beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe
- the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the
state but from the hand of God.”

Same-sex marriage, by any stretch of the imagination, is in complete
contradiction to God’s “Instruction Manual,” so if the rights of man come
“from the hand of God,” it is inconceivable that God would view same-sex
marriage as a “right.”

If proponents of same-sex marriage truly want just the economic benefits
(not “rights”) that heterosexual sexual couples have, those benefits can
easily be provided in the free market on a voluntary basis, without the use
of government force. Many corporations such as Disney, General Electric,
and Wal-Mart accommodate their employee benefit programs for homosexuals
and many already include insurance coverage for “domestic partners.” Just
as voluntary sexual activity should be a private matter, economic benefits
for private sexual relationships should be voluntary. This may entail
modifications in some State laws concerning contracts and benefits, but it
does not require laws destroying the sanctity of marriage between one man
and one woman that has been the cornerstone of civilization for over 5,000
years.

A Final Fallacy: Same-Sex Marriage Hurts No One

In America, we believe in “Live and Let Live,” so who is hurt if two boys
or two girls want to marry each other?

“Live & Let Live” is a great hallmark of American political life, but it is
only effective in matters between fully developed adults. The introduction
of children and a concern for future generations change the equation.

This is especially true when it comes to public sanctions and forced
indoctrination of children in the public school system. Parents should not
be forced to teach their children that a fundamental religious and moral
prohibition, one that has been a standard of Judeo-Christian morality for
thousands of years, is not only condoned, but is publicly sanctioned by
their government.

Many homosexuals, such as those with a religious worldview and especially
those with children or strong family ties, understand and accept the
position that same-sex marriage will be harmful to society; yet it is
understandable that many other homosexuals might not see the harm in
same-sex marriage.

But, why do so many heterosexuals support same-sex marriage? It seems
apparent that most are misled with the nice sounding but intentionally
false idea that government force is necessary to eliminate hatred,
uncomfortable feelings, and differences in economic benefits. What about
those leading this battle and intentionally misleading the public? Why are
they so vociferously demanding the right to impose this potentially
disastrous policy on the majority of Americans?

The answer lies in the fundamental difference between the secular and the
religious worldviews; therefore, it is not unimportant that the vast
majority of Americans hold a religious outlook on life. The third chapter
of the Talmud, Pirkei Avos, (Chapters of the Fathers), asks three of the
most critical questions humans grapple with.33  As Rabbi Daniel Lapin
explains, each of these transcendental questions can be answered in two
primary ways, defining the difference between the two worldviews.34

1. How did human beings come to be on this planet?
Religious:    God created us in His image and placed us here.
Secular:    By a lengthy, random process of unaided materialistic
evolution, primitive protoplasm became Bach and Beethoven.

2. Where is the human race headed?
Religious:    To an ultimate day of God’s choosing when a grand Messianic
redemption will take place resulting in the whole world recognizing God and
His truth.
Secular:    To an ultimate day of destruction and oblivion that will wipe
us out through overcrowding, poverty, global warming, acid rain, nuclear
explosion, off-course meteorites or any combination of the above.

3: What are we supposed to be doing here?
Religious:    We are supposed to be developing our relationship with God
and becoming closer to Him through studying and following His Torah and
obeying His mitzvoth. In other words, we have a set of objective ethics to
live by.
Secular:    There are no objective ethics, so everything is subjective and
relative. “Anything goes” is good enough as far as our personal lives go!
Our primary focus on the future is to head off the threats to humanity in
the Secular answer to question #2.  If they are too formidable for us to
solve alone, we should urge our government to solve them.  If they are too
much for one government to solve, we should urge governments to cooperate
through the United Nations in order to solve them.

Monotheists, such as Jews and Christians, would be in basic agreement with
the religious answers, albeit with variations in the details.

Secularists eschew objective values and ethics,36  and look at the future
as extremely tenuous and limited to only “this world.” The ultimate day of
destruction and oblivion are rapidly approaching, and there is nothing
after that! Thus both homosexual and heterosexual secularists, based on
their secular worldview, can very easily fall into the trap of supporting
same-sex marriage. To do so, they intentionally ignore the serious problems
they are imposing on parents with a religious worldview -- parents trying
to teach their children Judeo-Christian values.

Secularists truly believe religious people are ignorant, intolerant,
homophobic, racist, and generally dangerous; so they believe it is only
“social justice” to destroy any public acceptance of the religious
worldview, even by undemocratic means. The leaders of the secular movement
are strident atheists who cannot tolerate religious people; a constant
reminder of everything they reject. Instead of being religious
fundamentalists, they became secular fundamentalists. Through propaganda
and ridicule, these fundamentalists have also convinced a minority of
Americans, who believe in God, to fear religion more than secularism, in
complete disregard to the barbaric reality of the 20th century.

After the fall of Nazism and Communism, the secular fundamentalists focused
primarily on post-Christian Europe and American academia, turning both into
hotbeds of anti-religious bigotry and virulent anti-Semitism. These
self-proclaimed “progressives” espouse diversity, but are in fact very
close-minded and hostile to all political, cultural, and especially
religious opinions with which they disagree.

Over a century ago, Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch anticipated modern secular
fundamentalism with prophetic precision.37

It is now no longer enough for the apostate to be able to live undisturbed
according to his convictions, as he calls them; to him there is no
well-being and no peace as long as his convictions have not become the only
ones recognized as right and valid.

He sees in the Law an intellectual slavery from which it is the Godly task
of a second Moses to redeem his unfortunate brothers. In Torah-loyalty, he
sees superstition, backwardness, and at the same time a calamity which is
to blame for all the miseries of the past.

He sees in “liberation” from the yoke of the Law a goal so high and so
humanitarian that every means which seems capable of bringing about
progress toward this great goal must be employed.

He has reached the stage of waging fanatical campaigns of persecution
against those loyal to the Law.

Extremists on either side can be dangerous if initiation of force is not
limited by a strong Constitutional defense of individual rights and
religious freedom.38  The secular side, however, offers the greatest risk
to society. It contains no internalized mechanism for an objective moral
code of human cooperation and must rely solely on the collectivized,
legalistic force of government for citizens to defend themselves. It also
contains no effective, common moral foundation for raising children,
especially in a vacuum without an existent moral culture passed down from
previous generations of religious tradition

The Ultimate Victims

Who are the ultimate victims? On a micro level, our children are the
victims, but on a macro level, our free society will be the victim. As
President John Adams said in 1798,

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human
passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made for
a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of
any other.39

George Washington expressed this same idea in his 1796 Farewell Address to
the Nation:

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man
claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great
pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties of men and
citizens.40

In other words, our secular form of government was designed only for a
non-secular people.

150 years later, President Harry Truman confirmed that a “moral and
religious people” were still necessary for maintenance of our free society.41

The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the
Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings
we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul.

If we don’t have a proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end
up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for
anybody except the State.

Adams, Washington, the other Founders, and Presidents through George W.
Bush have understood that a limited Constitutional government “of the
people, by the people, and for the people” could work only if the society
is primarily self-policed, based on a common moral code that served as an
invisible net of social stability. In America this has always been the
Judeo-Christian values derived from the Bible, most recently expressed in
the phrase “one nation under God.”

Some argue that to officially state the United States is “one nation under
God” or to publicly recognize Judeo-Christian thought as the source of our
legal and political systems violates the rights of atheists and
non-monotheists. The very concept of “rights” in the United States
presupposes belief in the God of the Bible, not by every citizen, but at
least by the majority. Like homosexuals, atheists want to invent a right to
force their neighbors to lock their religious beliefs in the closet, so no
one ever feels uncomfortable.

To accept the assertion that public sanction of religion violates the
rights of atheists and non-monotheists, one must completely ignore the
Declaration of Independence, the history and writings of the Founders, and
our nation’s history until the last 50 years. If ignored, then this
discussion is not about the United States, but a completely new country.
How can the greatest nation in the history of the world allow judges and
special interest groups to completely redefine the nature and character of
this great country without ascertaining the will of the majority through a
democratic process?42

Do we really believe that the Founders, who created this revolutionary
concept of rights and created the greatest Constitutional system as yet
devised by mankind, did not understand what they were doing? Contrary to a
historical myth perpetrated by the secularists, America at the time of the
founding included atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, etc.,43  and the
Founders knew that it was only this unique form of government, based on
individual rights from God, that would protect people of all beliefs.

As historian David Barton explains, the Founders were all religious
Christians, but they did not oppose pluralism, “as long as the beliefs of
other religions did not threaten the stability of civil society.44   In
fact, the Founders believed that pluralism survived only within the concept
of religious liberty espoused by American Christianity,”45  uniquely
different from European Christianity and based on what we now term the
Judeo-Christian Ethic.46

The opposite is not necessarily true. As Rabbi Hirsch taught us about the
secular fundamentalist, there will be “no well-being and no peace as long
as his convictions have not become the only ones recognized as right and
valid.” He cannot tolerate a religious worldview outside the confines of
the church or synagogue. Sadly, the history of 20th century Europe and the
secular liberalism of 21st century American academia confirm both his
prediction and the understanding of the Founders that pluralism of belief
will not survive in a secular society.

People yearn for predictability in their lives and communities, and this
invisible net provides that predictability in their everyday lives. If
predictability is lost to chaos, they often turn to dictators or other
forms of totalitarian government to restore predictability.

Without a moral public culture shared by the majority of citizens to
provide the invisible net of social stability, government could not be
limited and would have to encroach into every citizen’s life and freedom.
Instead of a free society of cooperation between individuals, more and more
human interaction would have to be decided by the legal system and
bureaucrats. Morality would be replaced by legality, which helps explain
why the judicial system is taking control of our government and our lives.
Without a commonly accepted morality, there is no basis for human
cooperation, other than force. Freedom would rapidly morph into tyranny.

As Rabbi Lapin has explained:47

One unintended side effect of the secular fundamentalism sweeping America
is how it erodes the rules that hold together the invisible net of social
stability.
By encouraging unfettered personal license, secular
fundamentalism helps collapse civilized norms. Then, when people dress with
deliberately provocative vulgarity and they express themselves loudly and
obscenely in public, hardworking, family-minded citizens are left with a
growing feeling of unease. When young people no longer see their maturation
leading naturally toward marriage and when marriage itself becomes
threatened by cultural ridicule and purported alternatives, parents feel
unmoored. When public institutions depict religion as only for the
emotionally needy and the intelligence impaired many Americans feel
resentment and alienation.

This is obviously not to suggest that the hobby of shattering traditional
rules that seems to delight so many journalists, academics, and
intellectuals is going to endow America with a future dictatorial tyrant.
It can eventually, however, infect ordinary Americans with docility about
further Federal control beyond that necessary to protect us from our
enemies. In a desperate attempt to recover some sense of normality and
predictability in our lives, we might be tempted to embrace expanded
government influence over how we live, earn, and worship. We would yearn
for the predictability and normality that used to be supplied by those
traditional rules that many Jewish and Christian Americans of faith
remember increasingly nostalgically. Biblically-based faith helps to
maintain freedom by holding together the invisible framework of social
stability.

The Founders understood this lesson well, but we have strayed from that
lesson.

Our free society, as the Founders dreamed it and we once knew it, will be
lost forever unless Americans make a political stand to preserve this
endangered “invisible framework of social stability.” That stand must begin
with protecting children from the Trojan horse of secular fundamentalism
expressed in such formerly unthinkable legalisms as same-sex marriage.

The secular fundamentalists leading this assault on Judeo-Christian values
understand very well that the children are their point of attack. If you
doubt that children are the intended victims, read the words of an openly
homosexual woman who was formerly an insider in the leadership of the
feminist and radical “gay rights” movements, until she realized these
movements were no longer based on the ideal of civil-rights, but on
“socialism, the foundational model of the Far Left.”48  These are a few of
her comments about their efforts “to end anti-gay bias in K-12 schools.”49

For people whose entire identity and reason to live is based in their
sexuality, what do they need to do in order to fit comfortably into our
society? They must work to sexualize every part of society – and, as every
good marketer knows, that effort must begin with children.

The efforts of gay establishment organizations, if the future is really
their concern, should be focused on persuading the horde of bacchanalian
boys to change their lifestyle. Instead, they are demanding that we accept
their degeneracy, and the destruction of our future in the process. We dare
not judge them. We dare not question their actions. And we are to hand the
nation’s children over to them.

This is why a free society such as the United States, where the vast
majority of the people believe in Judeo-Christian values, can tolerate
unrestricted private sexual activity between consenting adults, but cannot
allow public sanction and endorsement of homosexuality as a cultural norm.


Will God Continue to Bless America?

Until the past few years, almost all Americans, and especially Presidents
and candidates for President, firmly believed that America had earned God’s
blessings. Now, secularists and even some Presidential candidates question
this bedrock belief of religious Americans. The naysayers may unwittingly
prove to be correct if they are successful in imposing their secular agenda
on the majority of Americans.

From the religious point of view, same-sex marriage and its public
sanction of homosexuality will desecrate God’s name. On a much larger scale
it will also risk the loss of His blessings on the United States, so
eloquently requested by President George Washington in his first Inaugural
address (1789):

… it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official Act, my
fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the Universe,
who presides in the Councils of Nations, and whose providential aids can
supply every human defect, that his benediction may consecrate to the
liberties and happiness of the People of the United States, a Government
instituted by themselves for these essential purposes.

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Samuel Silver is Chairman of Toward Tradition
<http://www.towardtradition.org/>, a national movement of Jewish and
Christian cooperation, fighting anti-religious bigotry and secular
fundamentalism.

Email Samuel Silver: ss@towardtradition.org

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Endnotes

1. As Rabbi Daniel Lapin explains, just as automobile manufacturers provide
an “Instruction Manual” with every car produced, God gave human beings an
“Instruction Manual” upon our creation. Rabbi Lapin calls this “Instruction
Manual,” “God’s biblical blueprint”, and it is revealed in the Torah – the
Jewish bible that serves as the foundation for both Judaism and
Christianity. It is further revealed in the oral law given by God to Moses
and further explained by the sages over thousands of years.

2.  For a larger understanding of the secular war against religion and
Judeo-Christian values in the U.S., see Daniel Lapin, America’s Real War,
Multomah, 1999. Another excellent resource is Rabbi Lapin’s audio
presentation, “Is America Airborne? Or have we run out of fuel?” available
from Toward Tradition at http://www.towardtradition.org/.

3.  In the United States, 75% of citizens identify themselves as having a
“religious outlook,” compared to 10% with a “secular outlook,” 6% with a
“somewhat secular outlook,” and 9% who either do not know or refused this
question. It is assumed that some of these 9% also hold a religious
outlook, thus the approximation of 80% of Americans holding a religious
worldview. Only 1% of Americans identify themselves at atheist or agnostic.
Source: “2001 American Religious Identification Survey,” The Graduate
Center, City University of New York. Available online at:
http://www.gc.cuny.edu/studies/key_findings.htm

4.  For a detailed analysis of the Founders’ intent in writing the 1st
Amendment, see the dissent that Justice William Rehnquist wrote in the 1985
Supreme Court case (Wallace v, Jaffree). Available online at:
http://www.tourolaw.edu/patch/Wallace/Rehnquist.html.

5.  It is bewildering that organizations describing themselves as Jewish
could applaud and advocate the Judicial tyranny leading to a “right” for
homosexuals to marry. These groups include ADL, AJC, Hadassah, and the
Religious Action Center of the Reform movement.

6.  Leviticus 18:22

7.  The Seven Noahide Laws, derived from the Five Books of Moses and
delineated in the Talmud, are considered by Jewish scholars to be Natural
Law for non-Jews. The first six are prohibitions against murder, theft,
sexual immorality, idol worship, blaspheming God, and eating a limb torn
from a living animal (animal cruelty). The 7th law is a positive
requirement to institute a system of law and courts to implement the first
six. Online information available at:
http://www.rb.org.il/noahide/noahinstitute.htm.

8.  Genesis 1:28

9.  Samson Raphael Hirsch, Commentary on the Torah (Unabridged Edition),
Genesis 1:28.

10.  Ibid. Commentary on Genesis 2:24.

11.  Genesis Volume 1(a), Artscroll Tanach Series (Mesorah Publications).
Summary of Hirsch commentary on Genesis 2:24

12.  Ibid. Commentary on Genesis 2:18.

13.  Maimonides’ Introduction to the Tractate of Avot (Shemoneh Perakim),
Chapter Eight, “The Composition of Human Nature.”

14.   For those that erroneously believe science has ruled out the
existence of free will, refer to Jeffrey Satinover, The Quantum Brain – The
Search for Freedom and the Next Generation of Man, John Wiley & Sons, 2001.

15.  For example, refer to Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth by
Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. Baker Books, 1996. The most current research in
this field is available online at http://www.narth.com/. There is also a
“Jewish” organization, JONAH (Jews Offering New Alternatives to
Homosexuality) which offers information on their website,
http://www.jonahweb.org/.

16.  See “The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Science,”
available online at http://www.narth.com/docs/innate.html.

17.  See “Hate Crime Statistics, 2002” at
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecrime2002.pdf. An assumption was made that 3% of
the U.S. population above age 14 was homosexual or approximately 6.6
million. The total violent “hate crimes” due to “sexual orientation” was
633. If it is assumed that homosexuals represent a higher proportion of
Americans, such as the estimated upper limit of 5%, the ratio of “hate
crimes” is even far less significant.

18.  Marshall Kirk & Erastes Pill (aka Hunter Madsen),“Waging Peace,” as
quoted in The American Enterprise magazine, June 2001.

19.  For a detailed discussion on how the word “tolerance” has become
corrupted by secular fundamentalists to really become “intolerance,” see
the Toward Tradition pamphlet, “Terrorized by Tolerance,” available online
at http://www.towardtradition.org/pamphlet.htm.

20.  For this discussion, religion refers to the twin civilizations of the
Bible, Judaism and Christianity, as practiced within the United States.
Traditional Islam might also fall into this category, but a full discussion
of Islam and other religious traditions is beyond he scope of this paper.

21.  It is ironic that if the secular fundamentalists are successful in
legalizing same-sex marriage and achieving their other goals such as
removing any public mention or display of God, it will be the kiss of death
for the public school system that they have used to indoctrinate America’s
children. Parents will eventually revolt and take back control of their
children’s education through a voucher system.

22.  Leviticus 19:18

23.  Courtois, et al, The Black Book of Communism, Harvard University
Press, 1999.

24.  Many in the Jewish community hold Christianity responsible for the
Nazi Holocaust. There is no doubt that European Christian anti-Semitism
historically created a terrible and horrendous mindset against Jews in
Europe, and played an indirect role in the Holocaust. However, the ultimate
expression of this anti-Semitism was carried out, not by Christians, but by
the National Socialists (Nazis) who were neo-pagans and also hated
Christians. See “The Church’s Responsibility,” in The Rav, The World of
Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik, volume II, KTAV Publishing, 1999.

25.  A letter to Thomas Paine (Dissuading him from publishing a Work of an
irreligious Tendency.) The Works of Benjamin Franklin, Jared Sparks,
Editor. As quoted in David Barton, Original Intent, Wallbuilder Press, 2002.

26.  Commentary on Deuteronomy 29:28 based on Rashi and Ramban, as quoted
in The Chumash, Stone Edition. Mesorah Publications.

27.  Genesis 6:12

28.  Midrash Rabbah, Vayikra 23.9

29.  Tractate of Chullin (92 a & b)

30.  See Samuel Silver, “In the long run, we are all dead - NOT!” Jewish
World Review, Dec. 21, 2000, available online at:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/sam/silver122100.asp.

31.  Thomas Sowell, “Gay Marriage Confusion,” Jewish World Review
(3/9/2004), available online at:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell030904.asp

32.  David Novak, The Image of the Non-Jew in Judaism. An Historical and
Constructive Study of the Noahide Laws. The Edwin Mellen Press, 1983.

33.  The three questions are literally: “Know whence you came, whither you
go, and before Whom you will give justification and reckoning.”

34.  For a more complete discussion of these three essential questions, see
Daniel Lapin, America’s Real War, Multomah, 1999. Also see Rabbi Lapin’s
article, “Ethnicity versus Belief in Jewish Marriage” available online at:
http://www.towardtradition.org/article_Ethnicity_vs_belief.htm

35.  The logical conclusion of the secular answer to this first question of
“How did human beings come to be on this planet?” is socialism and/or its
collectivist first cousin fascism, but that discussion is beyond the scope
of this paper.

36.  There are rare exceptions such as the Objectivism of Ayn Rand.

37.  Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, “The Seven Stages of Apostasy” in
Collected Writings of Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, Volume I. Feldheim
Publishers, 1997 Edition.

38.  As Nobel laureate, Milton Friedman has pointed out on numerous
occasions, only a “classical liberal” approach to limited government and
free-markets (libertarian, with a small L, in 20th Century terms) will
effectively protect individuals and especially minorities, whether racial
or religious. For example, see Capitalism and Freedom, U. of Chicago Press,
1963, and “Capitalism and the Jews,” Presidential Address to the Mont
Pelerin Society (1972), available online at
http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=1967.

Another Nobel laureate, economist and philosopher, F.A. Hayek, himself a
religious agnostic, believed that societies and even religions could come
into being by his concept of “spontaneous order,” but that only certain
monotheistic ones have proven successful in transmitting the necessary
“beneficial traditions.” As he stated, “Among the founders of religions
over the last two thousand years, many opposed property and the
family.  But the only religions that have survived are those which support
property and the family.” F.A. Hayek, The Fatal Conceit, U. of Chicago
Press, 1988, Volume 1, Chapter 9. Hayek and Friedman would both agree that
socialism and all forms of collectivism are dangerous for
Jews, Christians, and all other human beings.

39. John Adams. 1798 Address to the Military. Quoted in William J. Federer,
America’s God and Country - Encyclopedia of Quotations. Amerisearch, 2000.

40.  George Washington, Farewell Address, Philadelphia, September 17, 1796.
Available online at: http://odur.let.rug.nl/%7Eusa/P/gw1/speeches/gwfar.htm

41.  President Harry Truman, Address to the Attorney General’s Conference,
1950. Quoted in William J. Federer, America’s God and Country -
Encyclopedia of Quotations. Amerisearch, 2000.

42.  George Washington warned of an undemocratic usurpation of power by one
branch of government in his 1796 Farewell address: “It is important,
likewise, that the habits of thinking in a free country should inspire
caution in those intrusted with its administration to confirm themselves
within their respective constitutional spheres, avoiding the exercise of
the powers of one department to encroach upon another. The spirit of
encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one,
and thus to create, whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A
just estimate of that love of power and proneness to abuse it which
predominates in the human heart is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of
this position. The necessity of reciprocal checks in the exercise of
political power, by dividing and distributing it into different
depositories, and constituting each the guardian of the public weal against
invasions by others, has been evinced by experiments ancient and modern,
some of them in our country and under our own eyes. To preserve them must
be as necessary as to institute them. If in the opinion of the people the
distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any
particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the
Constitution designates, but let there be no change by usurpation; for
though this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the
customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent
must always greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient
benefit which the use can at any time yield.” George Washington, Farewell
Address, Philadelphia, September 17, 1796. Available online at:
http://odur.let.rug.nl/%7Eusa/P/gw1/speeches/gwfar.htm

43.  For a discussion of religious pluralism at the time of the Founders,
see David Barton, Original Intent, Wallbuilder Press, 2002. P. 31. Although
atheists existed in colonial times, they were not numerous or at least not
publicly visible. Even today, only approximately 1% of Americans claim to
be atheists or agnostics. See “2001 American Religious Identification
Survey,” The Graduate Center, City University of New York. Available online
at: http://www.gc.cuny.edu/studies/key_findings.htm. Another 13% specify
“no religion,” but that is not the same as atheism.
In a pamphlet written for Europeans considering relocation to America,
Benjamin Franklin offered this outlook on atheism in America. “Atheism is
unknown there; Infidelity rare and secret; so that persons may live to a
great age in that country without having their piety shocked by meeting
with either an Atheist or an Infidel.” Information to Those Who Would
Remove to America, quoted in William J. Federer, America’s God and Country
- Encyclopedia of Quotations. Amerisearch, 2000. P. 247.

44.  Thomas Jefferson, a committed Unitarian Christian, also understood
well the importance of religious pluralism as long as the religions did not
“threaten the stability of civil society.” In 1822 he wrote to a fellow
Unitarian, “I write with freedom because, while I claim a right to believe
in one God, if so my reason tells me, I yield as freely to others that of
believing in three. Both religions I find make honest men, and that is the
only point society has any authority to look to.” Quoted in Eugene
Sheridan, Jefferson and Religion, Thomas Jefferson Memorial Foundation,
1998, P. 68.

45.  David Barton, Original Intent, Wallbuilder Press, 2002. P. 33.

46.  To understand the unique combination of Christian and Jewish thought
that was the hallmark of the Founders, see “Jewish Metaphysics at the
Founding” in Michael Novak’s On Two Wings: Humble Faith and Common Sense at
the American Founding, Encounter Books, 2002. Some of Novak’s discussion is
available online at: http://www.politicsandvirtue.com/novak1.htm.

47.  Daniel Lapin, “And it came to pass in the days of Saddam.” Available
online at: http://www.towardtradition.org/article_Saddam.htm

48.  Tammy Bruce, The New Thought Police, Inside the Left’s Assault on Free
Speech and Free Minds, Random House, 2001, P.4. Ms. Bruce was formerly
President of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Organization for Women
(NOW).

49.  Tammy Bruce, The Death of Right and Wrong: Exposing the Left’s Assault
on Our Culture and Values, Prima Publishing/Random House, 2003, pp 103-104.
This discussion is about GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education
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Disagree with most of it.

Does not answer the questions.

Does ont debunk any points.

Presupposes agreement with a central position that is not agreed.

Try again or shut up.

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Naugehide Rash:

The Bellicose Rash of Orders from our 'genuine' Naugehide Drill Sergeant to jump through various flaming political hoops (by endlessly rewriting posts to fit his exacting demands -which can never be met anywayyy, which is after all just part of the overall scam) - is primarily designed to establish his 'Authority' to force others to do his bidding, and is one sure sign of a desperate lack of valid arguments to back up lame positions...

- All of which can be summed up quite nicely in Naugehide's Command to" Try Again or Shut Up"

No need for any pretense of dissection of the various points presented by your correspondent (no fun doing so I suppose) and no need to present any contrary positions (again, no fun) and certainly no need to actually 'debunk / counter debunk' any points...

-Simply the Imperial Command to behave as a Subordinate and do Naugehide's Bidding until he is 'satisfied' (a never to be achieved goal) or engage in Self Censorship, as a balm to the Naugehide Painful Rash reaction to Ungoodness.

Kind of like the Drill Sergeant ordering the Boots to clean the barracks floor with a toothbrush, and at the very end finding a spec of dirt (conveniently dropped by said Drill Boss) - and ordering them all to start over from the beginning... Only Different.

Some call it 'Character Building,' but in my time in the Service it was better known as the distribution of the excrement of an egg laying fowl; and common to a certain type of 'officer' better known as a hollow uniform stuffed with said excremental pretensions.

Sooo... Naugehide - Got any Actual Counter Points - or is it that retirement weighs heavily on your hands and you want to vicariously relive the glory days of your power over others...

- Or is it just that you just want someone to break in your toothbrush for you; which may help brighten your smile if not your writing.

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Leather Friends of Dorothy:

Attention Lurkers - Pay No Attention to the Leatherman Hiding behind the Iwo Jima Monument or other pretenses (unless you really are an Authorized DOD Spokesman and the Commandant has allowed you to Represent) as it is just another scam - and whether he really is a resident harpy in disguise or one of what old Joe Stalin called a "Fellow Traveler" is immaterial at this point.

However - Leatherman does have the evolutionary process bass-ackwards... I am used to shills and harpies playing 'good cop / bad cop' and all the other games it takes to trash Ohso and his positions. That you were 'nice' to me once does not mean anything when you turn 'mean' - and by that I mean as a shill for the Harpies already flltered. I could care less who people claim to be - and concern myself with what they post - which is how I know them.

Anywayyy... The Post Promised You (dare I say threatened) 'Re-Debunking' your pretentions has been written and posted and is available anytime you want to cross intellectual swords (you might want to sharpen your wits a bit first) on the thread "RADICAL HOMOSEX ATTACK ON MARRIAGE" on this very board.

Provided you got the Guts to Go Read It!

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California Approves Public Orgy - Folsom Street Fair is Back Again
Think we don’t need Prop. 8? Think Again
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www.LC.org San Francisco, CA - Matt Barber, Director of Cultural Affairs with Liberty Counsel and Associate Dean with the Liberty University School of Law, released the following statement regarding San Francisco’s homosexual "Folsom Street Fair" occurring this Sunday:

"It seems almost too fantastic to believe, but it's true. This Sunday, criminal activity and sexual perversion will once again fill San Francisco's public streets, with the shameful blessing of Mayor Gavin Newsom, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger," said Barber.

Barber continued, "During the Folsom Street Fair, hundreds, if not thousands, of fully nude men walk the public streets engaging in oral sex, sodomy, and some of the most debauched and vile acts of sadomasochism. These outrageous activities happen in broad daylight. Children are allowed to, and do, attend this event and are witness to this nudity and public sex. This is nothing short of child abuse.

Where are the police, you ask? They're ordered to stand by and watch as this criminal activity occurs right in front of them. In the past, the San Francisco Police Department hosted a police recruiting booth at the event."

"Those who engage in this perversion - as well as Folsom Street organizers - are in clear violation of no less than three California state laws (Sections 311.6, 313 and 314 of the California Code) and perhaps more. Each violation is punishable by up to six months in jail. Yet Mayor Newsom and the San Francisco police willfully and knowingly allow this lawlessness and vile perversion to take place in public," Barber stated.

"Newsom, Pelosi and other liberal politicians who support the Folsom Street Fair are the very same politicians who oppose California's Proposition 8, which, if passed, will abolish court-imposed 'same-sex marriage' and restore the legitimate definition of marriage as between one man and one woman.

The radical San Francisco exhibitions at the Folsom Street Fair reflect the same values responsible for imposing 'same-sex marriage' on the people of California. The vast majority of Americans do not want San Francisco's antifamily agenda to take root in their own communities. For that reason, people across this great nation should demand that all decency laws be enforced in California and that violators be prosecuted.

Furthermore, voters in California must vote yes on Prop. 8, and the rest of America should encourage them to do so. It's not just about California. It's about saving America as we know it," concluded Barber.

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Montana Madness - Note how a Dyke Misandrist with No Connection to the Child save hyr 'feelings' can Trump a Husband and Wife in Court - and force hyr way in to a Family that Does Not Want Her!

Like Sodom by the Sea Mayor Gravid Nuisance says in the latest 'marriage; Ad - The 'Vanilla' (clueless voters / taxpayes) will be forced to Pander to such Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions because:

"It's Gonna Happen - WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!"

I Do - Not!

Ohso

Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell 1984 On the Thought Police.

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Mont. former same-sex partner gets parental rights

 

MISSOULA, Mont.—A judge ruled in favor of a woman who sought parental rights to a boy and girl adopted by her former same-sex partner, a decision described as a first for Montana...

Attorneys for both sides have said the same-sex parental rights trial was a first for the state, whose voters in 2004 rejected same-sex marriage by about a 2-to-1 margin...

Maniaci, who is now married, argued that she and her husband should be able to raise the children as they see fit. She said Kulstad was neither their adoptive parent nor a biological relative..

Kulstad said she was not listed the adoption records because it is illegal in Montana for same-sex couples to adopt.

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Information from: Missoulian, http://www.missoulian.com

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Starring Gravid Nuisance - "Whether You Like it Or Not!"

The Frisco Crock-a-bull today (like the Times / BANG / MediaNews / Singleton syndicate... and pretty much the rest of the Bought and Paid for 'Free Press') endorsed the Destruction of Marriage Decreed by Weimar Kalifornia's supreme Turkey Baster Creationist Court.

No surprise there of course - last time around when @62% of the Voters Approved the Defense of Marriage via Proposition 22 - ONLY ONE PAPER IN THE STATE Dared to Endorse Proposition 22; and the Old Media even ran stories attacking that Editor / Staff for failure to Conform to their Political agenda; without much discussion as to why the Old Media was So Uniformly Dead Set Against the Voters of course.

But then that might have led to discussion of the Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex Political Bias that pervades the 'Fourth Estate' of Government (Executive, Legislative, Judicial and Tabloid branches) - the only one whose Checks and Balances are exclusively at the Bank - and that just would never do.

Anywayyy... At least the Matier and Ross Report in the Crock got some of the story right - and for those who have Not Yet Seen the Video of Mayor Gravid Nuisance doing his imitation of Howard Dean on Steroids and 'X' - it is a Classic of Modern Politics, and the link is well worth using...

Whether You Like it Or Not!

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Same-sex marriage foes feature Newsom video

Phillip Matier,Andrew Ross SFGate - October 1, 2008

They took it right off the city's official Web site.

"It stood out like a diamond on a donkey's behind," said Frank Schubert, co-chairman of the campaign to pass Proposition 8, the constitutional amendment on the Nov. 4 ballot to ban same-sex marriages. The Newsom moment was like a gift from fundamentalist heaven.

"He just looked so smug and cocky," Schubert said.

Now Newsom is the star of a new 30-second spot by the Yes on 8 Protect Marriage Committee. It shows the mayor at a May 15 rally at City Hall trumpeting the state Supreme Court's decision to allow same-sex marriages.

"This door's wide open now. It's going to happen - whether you like it or not," a growling and grinning Newsom declares to cheers.

See the Yes on 8 TV ad at www.protectmarriage.com/video.

"We tested (the ad) in focus groups, and it was just off the charts," Schubert said.

Not exactly the kind of introduction to state voters that gubernatorial wannabe Newsom was looking for...

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Is 'honestlyrandymuffy2u' getting Paid by the Times as a 'reporter' to act out his Homo-Anal Hissy Fit of Tantrum Theater all over these boards...

- or is it being done in addition to other duties as a parrot for the wild harpies of telegraph hill?

Inquiring Minds do wonder - but not all that much.

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Gravid with Nuisance

One does wonder - the Old Media (and the Radical leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex hacks that control it) seem to have been taken aback by the Mayor Gravid Nuisance appearance in the www.protectmarriage.com video - "Whether Ya Like it Or Not!".

Perhaps the Rank Raw In-Yo-Face Bigotry of the Radical Homosex Lobby is beginning to really sink (or stink) in - and the nightmare regime of Thought Policing they intend to use to maintain control of the 'Vanilla' (clueless taxpayers / voters) is becomming clearer.

That - Or perhaps our 'Watchdogs' just want to avoid taking any polls - until they stage another Hoax (like lavender legislative mafiosa Zelda Kueh's Fake 'super bowl sunday - violence againt womyn' scam; or the fairy tale around the Aids Spreading Matthew Sheperd and that sham 'hate crime' ) to Mau Mau said Vanilla to Vote as they are Told!

By those 'Watchdogs' who know they know best - because they get to censor the rest.

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Gravid With Absurdity:

Mayor Gravid Nuisance has again succumbed to 'foot in mouth disease' - which is just about the only patholigical affliction which Sodom by the Sea is not a Net Exporter of...

Or, as the Gravid One said hymself: "To the extent the ad seems to be attacking my own advocacy for equality, I am not concerned..."

Perhaps others may be a bit more concerned - in which case they need to be punished and silenced, in the name of 'tolerance' of course.

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Newsom Decries Our Yes on 8 Ad ‘Absurd’

by Jeff Flint - Campaign Manager on September 30th, 2008 (www.protectmarriage.com)

I guess we got his attention, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom has declared our first TV ad “absurd.” In a statement provided to PolitckerCA.com late Monday, Newsom said that our commercial, which uses phrases from one of HIS own speeches, is simply an attempt to “distract” voters from the “harm” the measure would cause if passed in November.
While attempting to appear as nothing more than a selfless activist for equality, Newsom expressed that he was just trying to ensure that Prop. 8 “doesn’t rob thousands and thousands of newly married couples of the ability to express their lifelong commitment and responsibility for each other.”
This is somewhat amusing considering the fact that Prop. 8 will not “rob” anyone of anything. Gay couples in domestic partnerships have and will continue to have the same legal rights as married spouses. We’re not here to stop anyone from expressing their commitment or responsibility to another. We’re simply here to protect the definition of marriage to what the majority of California voters (and all of history) have decided it should be - a union between a man and a woman.
We’ll leave it up to you to decide who is actually attempting to “distract” Californians on this issue.

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'Bride' and 'groom' being restored to California marriage forms
By Ken McLaughlin Mercury News  10/06/2008

"Do you, Party A, take this Party B to be your lawfully wedded spouse ...''

Nah. Never did sound right. So the state of California is now changing the way people can identify themselves on its new gender-neutral marriage licenses...

Since June 17, when gay marriage became legal in California as the result of a state Supreme Court ruling, two people getting hitched had only one option when filling out their marriage license form. One had to be identified as Party A. The other had to be known as Party B.

"Following the Supreme Court decision in May, we moved quickly to make that change to be consistent with the ruling,'' said Suanne Buggy, spokeswoman for the California Department of Public Health, which oversees marriage licenses.

Perhaps too quickly.

Many Californians, even those who support the right of gays to marry, thought "Party A, Party B'' sounded too cold, too bureaucratic.

Santa Clara County Clerk-Recorder Regina Alcomendras said Monday that she's heard few complaints from people obtaining marriage licenses since the gender-neutral form took effect. But Alcomendras said county clerks in rural counties have received a lot more flak.

One Roseville couple refused to sign their marriage license because the form didn't say "bride'' and "groom.'' And last week the couple filed a lawsuit against the Placer County clerk in Superior Court...

County clerks will begin using the newest marriage-license form on Nov. 17. That's 13 days after Californians decide whether to keep gay marriage legal when they vote on Proposition 8, which seeks to overturn the Supreme Court's decision.

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Whether you like it or not: That anti-same-sex marriage ad featuring San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom having a "Howard Dean" moment appears to be working. (Matier & Ross SFGate 10/8)

A poll sponsored by CBS 5-TV indicates that California voters now favor passage of Proposition 8, the constitutional amendment to ban same sex "I do's," by 47 to 42 percent.

The poll of 670 registered voters taken by Survey USA is a big shift from one taken just last month by the Public Policy Institute of California. That one showed Prop. 8 losing, 55 to 41 percent.

Advocates of same-sex marriage over at the No on 8 campaign say their tracking polls show the same trend, with the ban now leading, 47 to 43 percent. The Yes on 8 campaign happily reports that it's seeing a shift as well.

One explanation? Well, the latest poll was taken a few days after Prop. 8 proponents put commercials on the air featuring Newsom celebrating the state Supreme Court's ruling legalizing same-sex marriage by half-yelling, half-growling to a City Hall crowd, "This door's wide open now! It's gonna happen - whether you like it or not!"

The same ads show a law professor warning that if the measure passes, it could jeopardize the tax-exempt status of churches and lead to "gay marriage taught in public schools.".

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Guilty of Misandry - Pushing for Pandering.

The latest propaganda pieces broadcast by the Old Media in the Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex Attack on Marriage are heavily in to the 'Death to the Patriarchy' type of Mau Mauing, most common to the Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist coven of Dyke Hatemongers...

All the images are carefully sanitized for the 'Vanilla' (clueless voters / taxpayers) of course, in the best Hollyweird tradition. The latest TV ads feature a 'Fem-Dyke' (one that plays the Feminine Role - as opposed to the Butch Bride of Frankenstein Buzz Cut Dykes - kind of like Rosie O'Donnell with her head half shaved) laying a guilt trip on a Womyn (who must sympathize with those who Hate Men - or she is not 'tolerant') - by pretending that Misandry (Hatred of Men, Masculinity and Normal Heterosexuality) is a social duty for all Womyn.

Too bad they didn't provide images from the annual Frisco Dyke March / Anti Male Hate Riot (where they Ban Men from the streets without permit or payment) - showing the Reality of Hatred behind the masque of the Fem-Dyke pose.

I myself have some great video of the annual Dyke March - including showing Dykes on Bikes taking over the streets and Dyke Hatemongers rampaging in the street and on the sidewalks..

But the I dont think that those are the images the Radical Homosex lobby wants to broadcast Before the Election - although it will definitely remain the Dominant Reality After the Election.

Best keep quiet about it though - wouldn't want to spread any "Ism-Obia," what with all the guilt tripping Fem-Dykes at work spreading Misandry on the boob tube.

Ohso.

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BTW - the book "Lesbians Raising Sons" is written by such a "Fem-Dyke" named Jess Wells, and is just chock full of stories about Dyke Misandry acted out in the real world - often against the youngest and most vulnerable of Boys. Well worth the read, provided you can control your gag reflex.

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You're right -- it does look like the Prop 8 ad is having an effect.  Obviously, the haters realize that they can't win if they tell the truth or avoid personal attacks, so they are resorting to the out of context video of Gavin Newsom, the hero -- and even worse, lying.

Not a single church will lose its tax exemption if Prop 8 fails!  The Supreme Court decision - -which I'm sure almost no supporter of Prop 8 has bothered to actually read -- makes that explicit.  So the claim that this will happen is a LIE.

Schools are not required to teach marriage in school at all, and if they choose to do so, parents can excuse their children (just as many do with sex-ed).  So again, the Yes on 8 argument is a LIE!

No one is going to be legally liable for expressing a personal belief that homosexuality is wrong.  Again, the argument that they will is a LIE!

The right to marry was not created by "four activist judges."  That right is in the Constitution itself, which is why the haters started the petition to amend the Constitution before the Court even ruled!  And 3 of the four judges who affirmed that right are Republican appointees!  So again, the attacks on the Court are based on a LIE!

Denying marriage equality hurts millions of Americans, and tells their children that there families aren't good enough.  Permitting marriage equality hurts NO ONE.  It does not "threaten" traditional marriage (and who's defining "traditional"?  For millenia, the marriage "tradition" included polygamy, incest, pederasty, and business transactions).  Allowing people to have constitutional rights is not going to have any effect on anyone else's marriage.  The biggest threat to marriage is divorce -- why not just outlaw that?

Given that there are no valid, rational arguments in favor of Prop 8, and given that the supporters could only start obtaining favorable poll results when they started DEFRAUDING THE PUBLIC, what are we left with?  Prop 8 is about nothing more than hatred and prejudice.  I pray that it fails, and that it loses by a large margin.  There is no place in this world for bigotry and hatred -- and it would be beyond immoral to enshrine such awful things in the Constitution.

 

 

 

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Pander or Perish - Radical Homosex Hatemongers take only Your Children Prisoner!

The latest report out of (www.massresistance.org) shows how the Parker Case is just the tip of the Cannibal Soup 'pander or perish' Pogrom of the Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex lobby.

The Radical Homosex Agenda follows the plot of George Orwell's book 'Animal Farm' - where the revolution is for everyone, but some animals are going to wind up in charge of other animals (and some sent to the glue factory),all in the name of 'tolerance' of course. Meantime, as on the Animal Farm - the Young are led away for proper political indoctrination by the leaders of the revolution, the better to learn better...

As in how to better hate thier parents and all who fail to show allegiance to the new order.

In the name of 'tolerance' of course.

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US Supreme Court turns down David Parker's appeal. Validates state's right to teach homosexuality to young children over parents' objections! (www.massresistance.org)

At issue was the Lexington Schools' aggressive policy of normalizing homosexual behavior to elementary school children and not allowing parents to be notified before or after, or being able to opt-out their kids from it.

On April 27, 2005 David Parker was arrested and thrown in jail by school officials over his insistence of being notified regarding his son in kindergarten being taught about homosexual relationships by adults...  During that time the school became more hostile to the Parkers, and local liberals and homosexual activists did their best to harass the family.

Outrageous and insulting rulings by lower courts:

The liberal judges in the Boston federal courts reacted harshly. The rulings by the two federal courts on this case were so bizarre that it boggles the mind.  The judges denied the Parkers a trial and stated that schools have the right to teach homosexuality to children without parental interference.

They also pointed out that gay "marriage" in Massachusetts gives the state the right -- and even the obligation -- to promote homosexual relationships to young children.

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Big Financial Donors Oppose Proposition 8 (www.yesonproposition8.com)

It doesn't come as much of a surprise that Hollywood is aligning itself against Proposition 8. Tinsel Town is infamous for its programming that undermines family values. But recently celebrities have been stepping up their anti-family activities with their opposition to Proposition 8 and traditional marriage.

Comedian and talk-show host Ellen DeGeneres appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno recently and appealed to California voters to vote no on Proposition 8. Both DeGeneres and Leno mistakenly lead viewers to believe that same-sex marriage won't have any impact on their lives. In fact, altering the very nature of marriage will have a huge impact on our children and existing marriages.

Pop rock group Fall Out Boy just donated $50,000 to the No on Proposition 8 campaign. They join other entertainment celebrities such as actor Brad Pitt and director Steven Spielberg in their opposition to traditional marriage. But unfortunately, many companies we patronize are also using the dollars we pay them to attack our values.

Jean company Levi's recently donated $250,000 to the No on Proposition 8 campaign. Levi's has become a provocateur in clothing and its new advertizing campaign is shocking middle America. As reported by World Net Daily, Levi's web site features an interactive "Unbutton Your Beast" program that allows visitors to choose from a selection of "beasts" to jump out of the crotch of a pair of Levi's jeans.

A sexually-suggestive, crude message then gives voice to the "beast."

Utility company PG&E has thrown its support behind No on Proposition 8 and AT&T has dedicated itself to defeating the ballot measure. Google, the most popular internet search engine, last week publicly declared its opposition to Proposition 8. Co-founder Sergey Brin stated,"[I]t is the chilling and discriminatory effect of the proposition on many of our employees that brings Google to publicly oppose Proposition 8. While we respect the strongly-held beliefs that people have on both sides of this argument, we see this fundamentally as an issue of equality. We hope that California voters will vote no on Proposition 8 -- we should not eliminate anyone's fundamental rights, whatever their sexuality, to marry the person they love."

As you can see, we have powerful, wealthy opponents in this battle.

But despite the millions of dollars these few elites are spending to destroy traditional marriage, they cannot match the millions of Californians who want to protect traditional marriage.

But to win, we must band together, pool our resources and take a stand. We must draw a line in the sand and say, "Here, and no further will we allow this agenda to advance."

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My husband and I have three children.  What about our family?  Isn't passing Prop 8 and attacking my children "anti-family"?  Point out one family to me that will hurt, in any tangible way, if the Constitutional rights of gays and lesbians are upheld.  Now think of all the families that will be hurt, devalued, and discriminated against if Prop 8 passes.  Think of my eight year old daughter, who people like you are claiming is not in a "real family." 

Prop 8 is not about protecting children, it's about hurting them.  It's not about supporting families, it's about destroying them.  It's not about "values," it's about hatred and bigotry.

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College students condemn 'gay' marriage
Councilman: 'I feel a responsibility to protect our traditional family values'

October 02, 2008 By Chelsea Schilling © 2008 WorldNetDaily

SACRAMENTO – For the first time at a California two-year college, a student council passed a resolution to support a proposed ban on "gay" marriage.

The American River College Student Council, facing fierce opposition and curses
from peers Tuesday, voted 8-3 with three abstentions to support Proposition 8, known as the Marriage Protection Amendment.

Students who support "gay" marriage are furious, claiming they have collected 450 signatures to recall the eight students who voted for the resolution, the Sacramento Bee reported. If the signatures are validated, the college will hold a special election within 10 days to decide whether the students will be recalled.

Former student representative Yuriy Popko spoke in favor of the resolution at American River College, the largest community college in California with 37,500 students. He told WND the student association has a right to take a position on issues that affect education policy.

"We have classes at community colleges that teach about marriage," Popko said. "Some people don't know that. There are psychology classes that teach family dynamics and about everything from childhood to marriage. If Proposition 8 isn't passed, there will be a redefinition of marriage that will be taught in these classes."

Interclub Council President Tim Richney is head of an organization that oversees all campus clubs. He is leading the effort to remove council members who supported the resolution. "We are against discrimination and hatred, and we want them out of office," he said.

However, Popko said Richney's group has had a history of being divisive and pushing homosexuality onto students.

"Even before the California Supreme Court decided for same-sex marriage in California, the Interclub Council put on a Valentine's marriage ceremony where they actually 'married' homosexual couples," he said. "They gave them 'certificates.'"

Also, he said the campus GLBT club has been promoting homosexuality with risqué material. "They put up very obscene posters on campus of pornography," Popko said. "A lot of people didn't like that."

Councilman Vladimir Musorivschi, 25, confirmed that students are experiencing an increase in pressure from homosexual groups. He told the Bee the college's "gay" and lesbian students "influence us here right on campus – they do propaganda for homosexuality in front of the cafeteria." He said of his vote: "It was hard, but it was a really important step. I feel a responsibility to protect our traditional family values – we should think about our future generations."

Before the vote, Councilman Viktor Choban said, "I want to tell the council not to be intimidated by the comments. The homosexuals are masters of presenting themselves as a civil rights issue. It's not a civil rights issue; it's personal choice."

Several of the students in the audience yelled profanities at Choban. "They were cursing, 'F--- you!'" Popko said. "They were people who didn't support Prop. 8. They were disruptive, and they couldn't contain themselves, so they were escorted out of the building during the council meeting."

However, Richey told the paper Christian students condemn homosexuality and "attack anyone who's not straight. You're told you're going to hell." Popko said he has never seen any discrimination or hostility toward the GLBT club, but he said it complains that Christian clubs are anti-"gay" because their fliers contain quotes from scripture.

"They try to paint the opposition as this homophobic, bigoted, prejudiced group of people who are always oppressing them," he said. "Even when they had the same-sex marriage ceremonies, the Christian club never actually addressed that issue specifically. But they just assume that because we're Christian we are opposed to homosexuality, which is a logical assumption to make." "Gay" advocates chanted "2,4,6,8 we are here to stop the hate; 2,4,6,8 we are here to stop Prop. 8!" and one held a sign that said, "Lesbians are My Posse!"

A 19-year-old lesbian named Elizabeth Welsh told the council its resolution "creates a bad environment for students to learn." According to the Bee, student Joy Cordova said, "My heart hurts. How dare you tell someone you can't love another human being!"

A journalism major named Inna Gritsak,19, explained what she believed to be the true pupose of the proposed amendment: "Prop. 8 is about preserving the union between men and women and allows citizens of California to say no to judicial tyranny."

Popko told WND he would like the event to show that young college students can have a voice in politics, and they don't have to give into pressure to support same-sex marriage.

"We just want to encourage the voters of California and show them that the next generation is not completely on the bandwagon of the 'gay' rights movement," he said. "We want to preserve marriage between a man and a woman, and we want education to be what education should be. We encourage any other schools in the state to stand up and fight for what they believe in."

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Is That U - AFink?

Some of the more fanatic Resident Harpies buzzing the boards around here try to stage hissy fits for my attention whenever possible, if only to Mau Mau Me with the rabid, frothing, hind foot thumping Misandry (hatred of Men, Masculinity and Normal Heterosexuality) that defines their alliance between the Twysted Systerhood and the Coprophile Cult.

When I filter one Harpy (like a former nag named Afrank / AFink) another tends to pop up with a different scream name, but a very similar writing style and propaganda message...

Which still amounts to the same old Radical Homosex Tantrum Theater in service of the Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions at the core of their Pogrom.

But then clever they are not - just fanatically vicious, like thier Homo-Nazi predecessors.

Ohso

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I don't know if your comment was directed at me; your writing is so bizarred, perhaps because it is all filtered through your hatred and lack of any rational thought, so it's hard to tell.

Pointing out that Prop 8 hurts families - like mine -- is hardly a tantrum.  And ohso, I guarantee you that this will hurt members of your own family as well.  Does that matter to you at all?  Or is hate thicker than blood?

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time. Ohso we believe is an attorney who lives/used to live in Dublin and spent most of his time railing against women until the past few years. If that is him, he filed a suit against a woman's organization and acted as his own attorney until the case was thrown out of the courts. Now he is obsessed with attacking gays/lesbians at every opportunity. Frankly I hope lots of people read his garbage because they will plainly see in his writings all of the hatred and bigotry that really exists in the hearts of the sponsors of the Hate Proposition 8.

You might want to check out some of the forums under current news on this topic as well. You will find some propagandists there who masquerade under names like 8 but not hate and similar. The reality is these people are most likely members of one of the cults that sponsored this hate proposition and they are telling all of the lies regarding it over and over again. Disgusting how little regard some people have for their immortal souls.

Here is a brief article about the attorney : McDermott, who challenged the trademark as an individual acting on his own behalf, said today he considers the Dykes on Bikes name to be "hostile to men."

Without comment, the justices denied review of an appeal by Michael McDermott of Dublin, who challenged a decision by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to grant the San Francisco Women's Motorcycle Contingent exclusive rights over the commercial use of Dykes on Bikes.

The motorcycle club applied for a trademark in 2003 after using Dykes on Bikes for three decades as the moniker of the motorized unit that leads San Francisco's annual Gay Pride Parade. The club's attorney, Gregory Gilchrist, said the group had no business plans for the phrase but decided to seek legal protection after an offshoot group, now independent, discussed putting the name on T-shirts for sale.

 

 

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Judicial Activists Vote in Favor of "Same-Sex Marriage" at Connecticut Supreme Court
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Hartford, CT - By a single vote, the activist judges on the Connecticut Supreme Court today voted in favor of "same-sex marriage," thus becoming the third state high court to do so - after Massachusetts and California. Circumventing the legislative and executive branches, the will of the people, and the constitutionally mandated process for lawmaking, the four judges ruled that the state cannot deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

The 4-3 decision in Kerrigan v. Connecticut Department of Public Health, states: "Interpreting our state constitutional provisions in accordance with firmly established equal protection principles leads inevitably to the conclusion that gay persons are entitled to marry the otherwise qualified same-sex partner of their choice."

The Connecticut Constitution's equal protection provision, which was amended in 1984, prohibits discrimination on the basis of religion, race, color, ancestry, national origin, sex, and physical or mental disability, but those categories have never included sexual "orientation" or behavior. Constitutional amendment is a two-step process. The legislature must pass a joint resolution proposing the amendment by a two-thirds majority in each chamber and then submit that resolution to the popular vote for ratification in the next election.

Matt Barber, Director of Cultural Affairs with Liberty Counsel, said, "The 'inevitable conclusion' the Connecticut Supreme Court reached today is only inevitable in the minds of judicial activists who are bent on imposing, through judicial fiat, their own skewed and radical ideology on 'we the people.'

Why do we even need the legislative and executive branches of government if the courts are going to brazenly legislate from the bench?

It's ridiculous to imagine that the framers of the Connecticut Constitution could have even imagined the oxymoronic notion of 'gay marriage,' much less considered it a 'constitutional right.'''

Mathew Staver, Founder of Liberty Counsel and Dean of Liberty University School of Law, commented: "The Connecticut Supreme Court has trampled the law by voting to sanction 'same-sex marriage' and elevating practices most societies condemn. Same-sex marriage is not part of our American tradition, nor should it be.

Mothers and fathers are not expendable; children need both parents. Since the court's opinion is not worth the paper it is written on, I urge the executive branch, beginning with the Governor, to ignore the court's ridiculous decision. This ruling violates natural law and common sense, and frankly it should be considered only for what it is - a delusional and misguided opinion of four people who don't know the difference between the judicial and the legislative branches of government."

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'Tolerance Macht Frei' - Tanking!

The Homo-Nazi Propaganda Machine is having trouble getting traction amidst the Coprophile clutter of their own hate driven attacks on marriage and society - Particularly after mayor Gravid Nuisance was fool enough to Publicly Say - What they All Supported: MANDATORY PANDERING - BAMN! (By Any Means Necessary.)

The insistence of the Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex lobby on using only Sanitized and gaily Misleading Euphemisms in place of honest and accurate descriptions of the Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions that are the core of their agenda, has been mangled by Newsome's "Whether You Like it Or Not!" rant, making their Hate Driven Pogroms look worse than the obscene peach fuzz on a steroid abusing dyke drag king mocking Men to act out Misandry.

And even the likes of Slick Willie the Lesser (Brown - former Mayor of Frisco and self proclaimed "Ayatollah of the Assembly") now admit it.

Ohso.

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

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Or as Slick Willie Brown himself said (Sfgate 10/12):

"...Yes on Proposition 8 ad featuring Gavin Newsome is having a devastating effect on the "no" side... It's his impression of Howard Dean. It is absolutely awful.

And it's not out of context - that's the problem for him... At the time he said same sex marriage is here to stay, "Whether You Like it or Not!", it's exactly what he meant."

Brown further opines that the use of the video by Pro-Marriage / www.yesonproposition8.com / www.protectmarriage.com advocates was a coup, as they didn't need to make editorial comment about the Deaniac Yell by Newsome because it was already so very very Ungood they could:

"Let viewers draw their own conclusions. From the looks of the polls they have - and it is not in Gavin's favor."

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Gravid Nuisance Blows Hard:

The Matier & Ross report from the Frisco Paper (SFGate 10/12) talks about a sea change in the Radical Homosex attack on marriage - brougnt about by the hard blowing rant of Sodom by the Sea Mayor Gravid Nuisance.
Ohso.
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At the altar (M&R Report): After months of sailing toward an apparent victory, same-sex marriage advocates suddenly find themselves in choppy waters as opponents outspend and out-organize them in the final fight over Proposition 8 on the Nov. 4 ballot.

"We always knew that the polls would change and that our support would erode, but it is still taking a lot of people in our community by surprise," said Kate Kendell with the National Center for Lesbian Rights.

"It's clear that two things are going to decide this," Kendell said: "Money, and the ability of either side to use that money to get their message out."
Well, thanks to some 62,000 individual donations from Mormons, Catholics, evangelicals (who had a 500-church conference call) and others, proponents of the proposed constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages have amassed about $25 million - $10 million more than Prop. 8 opponents.

The latest campaign finance filing by Yes on 8 was 5,000 pages long and took the secretary of state's office an entire day to upload.
"It certainly shows momentum," said Yes on 8 spokesman Chip White.

As for message
...trumped by the Yes on 8 media blitz featuring a growling San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom telling the world that the door to gay marriage was wide open, "whether you like it or not."

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Radical Homosex Rash Spreads

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(www.Faith-Freedom.com) The latest rash of judicial activism reached Connecticut.  The Connecticut Supreme Court became the third state supreme court, joining California and Massachusetts, to discover a right to same-sex marriage in their state constitution. In doing so, four judges decided they are more qualified to legislate than the Connecticut legislature.  In a 4-3 ruling, the Court stated that denying same-sex couples the right to marry violated equal protection principles despite the fact that same-sex couples in Connecticut are allowed to enter into civil unions providing them the same rights and benefits as traditional marriage.

"Interpreting our state constitutional provisions in accordance with firmly established equal protection principles leads inevitably to the conclusion that gay persons are entitled to marry the otherwise qualified same sex partner of their choice," Justice Richard N. Palmer wrote in the majority opinion that overturned a lower court finding.

"To decide otherwise would require us to apply one set of constitutional principles to gay persons and another to all others," Palmer wrote.

This decision again ignores the will of the people.  In California, the people expressed themselves through the initiative process by passing Proposition 22 defining marriage as being between one man and one woman.  In Connecticut, the people expressed themselves through a democratically elected legislative body.  Fortunately, Californians have the opportunity to overrule the California Supreme Court on November 4, 2008, by voting yes on Proposition 8.

The Marriage Protection Act will place the same 22 words Californians overwhelmingly supported in Proposition 22 into the California Constitution.   For more information, please visit www.protectmarriage.com.

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Gravid Nuisance - Yes On 8 Poster Boy.

Even the propaganda hacks of the Bought and Paid for 'Free Press' have to admit that Old Gravid Nuisance has provided another 'Foot in Mouth Disease' moment - particularly after all the efforts to Spin the Lie that they Won't Immediately Target the Youngest of School Children for Mandatory Indoctrination in to the Radical Misandrist / Homosex Agenda.

When Nuisance officiated at a Hate Rally for Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist Dyke Misandry, in the form of a Feminist-Nazi (but not the shorter / Old Media Censored term "[bleep]")'wedding' at City Hall, he exposed the Lie for All to See - and knocked the foundation out from under the Old Media House of Cards that claimed otherwise.

But then - that is the special talent of Gravid Nuisance - to embody the Sick Hatreds and Viler Perversions of his 'constituents' - and present the face to Weimar Amerika - "Whether You Like it Or Not!"

Ohso

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"Newsom becomes campaign tool for Prop. 8 backers"
Erin Allday, Chronicle Staff Writer October 14, 2008

...The mayor has become the reluctant face of the campaign opposing same-sex unions with the help of a prominent Yes-on-Proposition-8 television ad. Conservative blogs have been atwitter about Newsom last week officiating at the wedding of a lesbian teacher whose class of first-graders took a field trip to celebrate with her.

In many ways, Newsom has become the single best campaign tool for proponents of Prop. 8 - and that might have been inevitable, political experts said.
"His pictures have become the rallying cry for Prop. 8. It's unfortunate for him, and it's unfortunate for the anti-Prop. 8 campaign," said Barbara O'Connor, a professor of political communications at California State University Sacramento. "I don't know that I would change his behavior, because he's representing his constituency, and he's been totally consistent in his position. But he's become everyone's worst nightmare."
Indeed, analysts say the mayor should be trying his best to keep out of the same-sex marriage spotlight - something that Newsom's handlers, and even the mayor himself, say he's been trying to do...

As for Friday's wedding of a lesbian teacher and her longtime partner, Newsom wasn't aware that the first-graders would be skipping school for the event, Jaye said. The mayor performed the ceremony because one of the women was a friend of a friend...

Political insiders say images of children attending a same-sex wedding play right into the hands of the proponents of a same-sex marriage ban. The more proponents can make the issue about protecting children and less about removing people's rights, the better their chances, several people said.
Already, the pro-Prop. 8 campaign Web site is prominently displaying a reaction to Friday's wedding.
Frank Schubert, campaign co-manager of the yes campaign, writes on the Web site, "Taking children out of school for a same-sex wedding is not customary education. This is promoting same-sex marriage and indoctrinating young kids. I doubt the school has ever taken kids on a field trip to a traditional wedding."...

Political consultant Jim Ross agreed that Newsom is not the best No on Prop. 8 spokesman, especially in the Central Valley and other conservative pockets of California. He said the mayor should be working the phones to get Democratic allies in places like Bakersfield, Modesto and Turlock out campaigning.
"What they need is people who can connect with voters in those places," he said. "The mayor of San Francisco, no matter who it is, isn't that person."...

Hoffenblum said Newsom's role in the same-sex marriage campaigns is likely to have a much larger impact on his run for governor than on the fate of the proposition.

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Homosexuals Having a Field Day with CA Schools (www.FRC.org)

"It really is what we call a teachable moment," argued Liz Jaroflow, the interim director of a local California charter school. This is how she and other administrators rationalize the decision to take a class of impressionable first graders on a field trip to their teachers' lesbian "wedding." At the suggestion of a parent, Jaroflow herded the five- and six-year-olds onto a bus during school hours last Friday and surprised Erin Carder and Kerri McCoy at City Hall.

Now the unorthodox excursion is putting San Francisco's school district at the center of a national debate on counterfeit marriage. When asked what educational value the trip had, Jaroflow pointed to the "historical significance of same-sex marriage" and "civil rights." "...[I]t's not controversial..." she told reporters. "It's certainly an issue I would be willing to put my job on the line for." Whether or not the district will ask her to do so is unclear. According to the Chronicle, Jaroflow did ask for parents' permission, and two families opted out. Across California, however, voters are in disbelief. The trip, a disgraceful abuse of school time, is just a preview of the indoctrination to come if Proposition 8 fails.

Ironically, this happened just days after "No on 8" launched ads last week claiming same-sex "marriage" would not be taught in schools, no matter what the outcome on November 4. Not only will it be taught, it's obvious that the lessons are already underway!

On the Chronicle's site, editors posted a video of these first-graders celebrating their teachers' big day. View the video for a snapshot of what homosexual "marriage" will mean for children across America.

Additional Resources
SF Chronicle: Class surprises lesbian teacher on wedding day
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Dyke Misandry Celebrated in Sodom by the Sea...

Mayor Gravid Nuisance added to his luster as chief pimp and procurer for the Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist coven of Dyke Misandry (Hatred of Men, Masculinity & Normal Heterosexuality) when he recently celebrated taking young students from school to join a Radical Homosex Pander Fest.

Particularly gruesom of newsome (who like so many Democrap Feminist Posterboys - Obamacon, Klinnton... Grew Up without a Father) - is the message to Young Boys; who are told that if they are very good little feminists, and never grow up to be evil Heterosexual Men, that someday they too can become anonymous genderless 'dead beat donors' for Dyke Misandrists to act out their hatreds...

Which is far superior in Frisco Politics to actual Male Fathers.

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Baby Steps:

'Naugehide Too' (sycophant disciple of 'honestlyrandymuffy2u") makes several basic Bogus Statements based on Bigoted Assumptions, in the haste to pander to this celebration of the Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist Coven of Dyke Misandry.

One is of course to say that because some parents opted out - This Time... That they will be permitted to Next Time. In January new Draconian Homosex Pandering Laws take effect, in all of Weimar Kalifornia and not just Sodom by the Sea.

Another - even more basic example of the Naugehide Rush to Pander is the assumption that All Parents Were Able to Opt Out their kids... Perhaps some had to work or be elsewhere and had no daycare providers for when the kids should be in school learning - and not at city hall pandering to Dyke Misandrists.

Still - I suppose there is a 'Bright Side' - For Radical Dykes of Course (who else matters in Frisco anywayyy - as their Annual Dyke March / Anti Male Hate Riot shows) - in that Boys Could Be Seriously Harmed, by having the schools teach them to be good feminists and Never Grow Up to be Heterosexual (meaning bruthish raping patriarchal pig) Men...

That way they can know the "Pride" of becoming an anonymous genderless 'dead beat donor' - and produce as many children they want without any responsibility for their offspring.

Oh Brave New World of Dyketopia - Show us your shining Turkey Basters!

Ohso

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

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(www.protectmarriage.com) Whose Side are Teachers Unions on?

Yesterday's campaign finance report from the No on Proposition 8 campaign is startling.

The California Teacher's Association donated $1 million to the campaign. This is in addition to the hundreds of thousands of dollars already pumped in to the campaign by the CTA in the last few months.

Opponents of Proposition 8 claim that it's all lies when we warn that your children will be indoctrinated about same-sex marriage and homosexuality. They claim that you'll be able to opt your child out of class when same-sex marriage is taught or discussed. But we know that the judiciary is actively promoting the homosexual agenda by their overturning Proposition 22 this year.

And case law shows that parents are losing their rights as well.

Last week the US Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal of a father in Massachusetts who tried to opt his kindergarten child out of a classroom discussion about homosexuality. A lower court ruled that parents had no right to be notified when such discussions take place, nor will the children be allowed to opt out of the class.

If this is happening in Massachusetts, where same-sex marriage is legal, it will happen in California.

With the help of the powerful CTA the homosexual agenda will be pushed in every classroom. Parents will be helpless to protect their children-because the government and judiciary have banned them from doing so!

These are not lies, or scare tactics-this is the truth because it's already happening.

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Naugehide Rash - Statements...

Naugehide Too (sycohphant disciple / alter ego of 'honestlyrandymuffy2u) wants to play word games  - by supplying words for incorrect attribution your correspondent, as opposed to Answering or Addressing the Issues...

So much for leftist psuedo liberal lightweights.

Anywayyy... Here is the relevant passage again - From the PARKER CASE in Mass, headed for a Grade School Near You in Weimar Kalifornia, really soon - like in January when the real Draconian Pander or Perish Laws Kick In...

Like I Said.

Ohso

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

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(www.protectmarriage.com) ...a father in Massachusetts who tried to opt his kindergarten child out of a classroom discussion about homosexuality. A lower court ruled that parents had no right to be notified when such discussions take place, nor will the children be allowed to opt out of the class. If this is happening in Massachusetts, where same-sex marriage is legal, it will happen in California. With the help of the powerful CTA the homosexual agenda will be pushed in every classroom. Parents will be helpless to protect their children-because the government and judiciary have banned them from doing so! These are not lies, or scare tactics-this is the truth because it's already

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polls showing Prop 8 moving into the lead, our opponents have sounded the alarm and are seeing millions pour in. What's more, they've taken a 9-to-1 lead in fundraising in just the last week. (www.protectmarriage.com)
But don't just take my word for it. The San Jose Mercury News reports: Equality California, the lead organization for the No on 8 campaign, has raised more than $3 million within California since Oct. 6, including a $1 million contribution Tuesday from the California Teachers Association..

Since Oct. 6, large contributions to ProtectMarriage.com, the lead group supporting Proposition 8, have totaled just $405,969.

The No on 8 campaign has also received commitments for an additional $4 million in donations that have not been received, said Kate Kendell, a member of the campaign's executive committee. Over $3 million vs. $405,969 -- with an extra $4 million on the way.

Because of your generosity, the Yes on 8 campaign enjoyed a fundraising advantage that allowed us to communicate more effectively with voters. Our advertising and other voter communications was a key reason we were able to flip the polls and take a slight lead in this race. But now our fundraising advantage has been eliminated and soon we will be behind our opponents by millions of dollars. We can't risk them stopping our momentum because they have out-raised us in the past few days. Too much is at stake...

Our TV ads telling the truth about Prop 8 have turned this race around... Already, we are receiving reports of the No on 8 campaign increasing their advertising buys in key media markets. The threat is real.

In addition to a $1 million check from the California Teachers Association, the No campaign announced today that Hollywood film producer Steve Bing will personally match up to $1 million in donations to No on 8.

With 19 days to go, the race is too close for you to stay on the sidelines. Our opponents are mobilizing like never before because they know that traditional marriage is on the line.

The question is... will we make sure the fight is joined? Please make sure your voice is heard, and that we are not outgunned in this fight of a lifetime.

Thank you, Steve Linder
www.ProtectMarriage.com - Yes on 8

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The Gentrification of the Extreme (www.FRC.org)

Recent news accounts have been full of expositions of the views of William Ayers, the Illinois professor and former Weatherman whose role in the career of Barack Obama has been the subject of hot debate. A photograph of Ayers standing on the American flag in an urban alleyway has been widely circulated.

It dates not from the perfervid 1960s anti-war era when passions spilled over into violence perpetrated by the Weathermen and other radical groups, but to 2001 when Ayers posed for the cover of Chicago magazine. At that time, Ayers served with Senator Obama on the board of an education reform group called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC). Given the mission of the CAC and Ayers' current role-not as a protestor but as an educator-his views on the classroom deserve more attention.

Writer Linda Harvey has brought some of those views to light in an article detailing a book Ayers endorsed called Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue About Sexualities and Schooling. The book is a collection of essays that advocate such things as "risky teaching," "including ([bleep])sexualities" (sic) in elementary school, and helping children "question the categories and rules that have formed them." The book was published in paperback in 1999. Ayers apparently has an easier time saluting the Rainbow Flag than the red, white, and blue.

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Linda Harvey: Bill Ayers' 'gay' agenda for your kids

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Academentia Funding

It is obvious why 'teachers' in Weimar Kalifornia need such High Pay and Perks for running one of the most disgraceful political indoctrination camp systems ever to pimp schoolkids to the Democrap pervert / hatemonger lobby...

To Pay for Political Ads to Mau Mau the Parents in to Piming their Kids too!

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California Teachers Association donates $1 Million to No on 8! (www.faith-freedom.net)

As many know, the California Teachers Association has a long record of supporting a liberal agenda. Unfortunately, they have recently upheld their reputation by donating $1 million dollars of union dues to the No on Proposition 8 campaign. The CTA is misdirecting dues paid by California’s teachers, many of whom are in support of Prop 8. If Proposition 8 is defeated, school children in public schools will be taught about same-sex marriage. The CTA is not representing the teachers who paid the dues that were misdirected, and it is certainly not protecting California’s school children. Instead, they are inappropriately using funds to support a liberal agenda.

Fortunately, for all of the teachers who are in favor of Prop 8 and do not wish to support the No on 8 campaign, Assemblyman Chuck DeVore has a solution. He states that the first thing one can do is ask the CTA for a refund of his/her dues money that was not used for legitimate collective bargaining purposes. In order to learn how to do this, click here to view the sample letter to CTA members to get the forced dues refund.   Secondly, he states that you can then send the $300 dollar refund to www.Protectmarriage.com.  California’s teachers can also choose to withdraw their membership from the CTA, and become a member of the Christian Educator’s Association. By doing this, you can assure that in the future your dues will not be used in order to support a partisan liberal agenda.

This is not the first time the CTA has misdirected union dues. The CTA intervened in our case involving Chad Farnan on behalf of the teacher who is continuously expressing hostility towards Christianity in a high school classroom and is in violation of the Establishment Clause. In this case, the CTA is again misdirecting both funds and resources away from legitimate collective bargaining purposes.

It is not too late for teachers and everyone else to come together and stand up for traditional marriage by voting Yes on Proposition 8. In doing so, teachers can also take a stand against the CTA for its continued misuse of union dues. Please unite with us and help protect the sanctity of marriage.

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Karen England Debates Marriage on TV Tonight!

Yes on Proposition 8's Karen England will appear on Sacramento television this evening in a debate with the California Teachers Union.

Please tune in at 5pm on ABC 10 to watch Karen debate.  
Also, the debate will continue online after the beginning portion airs live on television. So all supporters can tune in via their computers this evening and participate. Please log in to support Karen this evening.

Join the Debate.


Whose Side are Teachers Unions on?

Yesterday's campaign finance report from the No on Proposition 8 campaign is startling.  
The California Teacher's Association donated $1 million to the campaign. This is in addition to the hundreds of thousands of dollars already pumped in to the campaign by the CTA in the last few months.

Opponents of Proposition 8 claim that it's all lies when we warn that your children will be indoctrinated about same-sex marriage and homosexuality. They claim that you'll be able to opt your child out of class when same-sex marriage is taught or discussed. But we know that the judiciary is actively promoting the homosexual agenda by their overturning Proposition 22 this year. And case law shows that parents are losing their rights as well.

Last week the US Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal of a father in Massachusetts who tried to opt his kindergarten child out of a classroom discussion about homosexuality. A lower court ruled that parents had no right to be notified when such discussions take place, nor will the children be allowed to opt out of the class.

If this is happening in Massachusetts, where same-sex marriage is legal, it will happen in California.

With the help of the powerful CTA the homosexual agenda will be pushed in every classroom. Parents will be helpless to protect their children-because the government and judiciary have banned them from doing so!

These are not lies, or scare tactics-this is the truth because it's already happening. We need your help to stop such craziness before it takes even deeper roots here in California.

Marriage Videos:

CA First Graders Attend Gay Wedding

Massachusetts School teaches about gay marriage in Kindergarten and 2nd grade

Massachusetts Catholic Charities forced to close

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If it weren't dealing with a civil rights issue, it would be ironic that the "religious" right are seeking to protect marriage by lying and misleading the public in their ads.

Let me just say this: K-12 school is not law school.  What the school teaches or doesn't teach about sex comes from the school districts, not from what is legal.  So, for example, my children have NEVER learned the word "abortion" let alone what it is from any school teacher.  This, despite the fact that it is legal.  They haven't been taught (yet) about smoking, even though that is legal.  They haven't been taught about alcoholism, even though that is legal.  They HAVE been taught about street drugs, and those are illegal.

Because something is legal has no bearing on whether or not it is taught in public school.

The argument is a silly lie.

Likewise, abortion is legal yet no churches are losing their tax-exemption from opposing it and refusing to condone it.

That Ohso is a liar is nothing new.  That "religious" groups like the Knights of Columbus (whom I will never donate to again) resort to lying to get their way makes me certain they are not well versed in Christianity. 

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On Marriage, A Supreme Injustice (www.FRC.org)(

Although homosexual activists remain zero for fifty in their efforts to change the definition of marriage by democratic means, Connecticut's Supreme Court on Friday became the third one to judicially mandate recognition of "marriages" of same-sex couples, following the example of Massachusetts in 2003 and California earlier this year.

As with those earlier decisions, this one came by the narrowest of margins, 4-3. Justice Richard Palmer's majority decision suggested that the traditional definition of marriage discriminates on the basis of both sex and sexual orientation. But Justice Peter Zarella's dissent pointed out that the majority failed "even to identify, much less to discuss, the actual purpose of the marriage laws," which is "to privilege and regulate procreative conduct."

Pro-family forces in Connecticut face a long struggle to reverse this judicial activism-according to the Hartford Courant, a ballot question in November would call for a constitutional convention. Fortunately, voters in California, Arizona, and Florida already have marriage amendments on the ballot November 4. We urge them to seize this opportunity and take the definition of marriage out of the hands of activist judges once and for all.

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Hartford Courant: State Supreme Court Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage

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Marriage of Convenience (www.FRC.org)

When Sen. Joe Biden walked onto the "Ellen DeGeneres" stage to David Bowie's song "Changes," the irony wasn't lost on values voters. In the days leading up to his interview, Sen. Barack Obama's running mate has made some significant changes to his position on marriage, namely that he supports redefining it. At the Vice Presidential debate just 18 days ago this was the exchange between the candidates and moderator Gwen Ifill.

GOV. SARAH PALIN: ...I will tell Americans straight up that I don't support defining marriage as anything but between one man and one woman...I'm being as straight up with Americans as I can in my non-support for anything but a traditional definition of marriage...
IFILL: Let's try to avoid nuance, Senator. Do you support gay marriage?
BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that.

Last week, the Democratic candidate took a serious detour from his opposition to same-sex "marriage," telling an IN Los Angeles reporter that he opposes Proposition 8, California's marriage protection amendment. This morning on "Ellen," Biden reiterated that view and added, "If I lived in California, I'd clearly vote against Prop 8." Meanwhile, his GOP counterpart stood by her initial statements and told CBN's David Brody that she supports a federal marriage amendment. In Gov. Palin's one-on-one with Brody, she said, "...I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go because I don't support gay marriage."

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ABC News: Biden Appears on Ellen, Says He'd Vote Against CA Amendment Banning Same-Sex Marriage
Brody File: Palin Signals Support for Federal Marriage Amendment

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8 is Great - and Getting Better

(www.protectmarriage.com) As soon as the polls began showing support for Prop. 8 gaining ground, our opponents sounded the alarm and have seen millions of No on 8 donations pour in. They are using these donations to mislead voters into believing that there are no consequences surrounding the legalization of same-sex marriage.
But we know better! This is why we are launching a Statewide Media Bus Tour Next Week. We’re going from one end of the state to the other to let California know that the majority of voters support Prop. 8.
We need your help to get hundreds of supporters to our bus tour stops to stand up for traditional marriage.
The tour will start in Sacramento on Monday (Oct. 20) at the Riverside Wesleyan Church. We’ll visit 15 locations throughout the state over the course of eight days.
Please help us spread the word.  Plan to arrive 45 minutes before the times listed below and remember to bring along your Yes on Prop 8 signs as well as any other materials you might have. If you make your own signs, be sure to write on both sides for the best visibility!
Below is a list of CONFIRMED dates, times and locations for our bus tour rallies. Additional stops will be added to our bus tour next week so please look for updated tour stop notifications.
Kick off: Monday, October 20
11:15 A.M.
Riverside Wesleyan Church
6449 Riverside Blvd.
Sacramento, CA 95831

Monday, October 20
4:00 P.M.
Pleasant Valley Baptist Church
13539 Garner Lane
Chico, CA 95973

Tuesday, October 21
12:00 P.M.
Foothill Missionary Baptist Church
1530 Foothill Blvd.
Oakland, CA   94606

Wednesday, October 22
4:00 P.M.
First Baptist Church
808 Needham Street
(Bus will be located at 11th Street & Needham Street)
Modesto, CA 95354

Friday, October 24
12:00 P.M.
St. Frances X Cabrini
1440 W. Imperial Hwy.
Los Angeles, CA  90047

Saturday, October 25
12:00 P.M.
St. Mary’s Catholic Church
795 La Brucherie Rd.
El Centro, CA 92243

Saturday, October 25
4:00 P.M.
Central Baptist Church
45520 Clinton St.
Indio, CA 92201

Monday, October 27
3:00 P.M.
Skyline Church
11330 Campo Road
La Mesa, CA  91941

Please join us in what is proving to be the largest grassroots event yet! Help spread the word!

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at 916-446-2956 or email info@protectmarriage.com.

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What same-sex "marriage" has done to Massachusetts - It's far worse than most people realize
by Brian Camenker (www.massresistance.org)

[Note: As the debate on this issue rages in states across the country, most people are unaware of what's really happened here. Get ready for an eye-opener.]

Anyone who thinks that same-sex “marriage” is a benign eccentricity which won’t affect the average person should consider what it has done in Massachusetts. It’s become a hammer to force the acceptance and normalization of homosexuality on everyone. And this train is moving fast. What has happened so far is only the beginning.

On November 18, 2003, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court announced its Goodridge opinion, ruling that it was unconstitutional not to allow same-sex “marriage.” Six months later, homosexual marriages began to be performed.

The public schools

The homosexual “marriage” onslaught in public schools across the state started soon after the November 2003, court decision.

* At my own children's high school there was a school-wide assembly to celebrate same-sex “marriage” in early December, 2003. It featured an array of speakers, including teachers at the school who announced that they would be “marrying” their same-sex partners and starting families either through adoption or artificial insemination. Literature on same-sex marriage – how it is now a normal part of society – was handed out to the students.

* Within months it was brought into the middle schools. In September, 2004, an 8th-grade teacher in Brookline, MA, told National Public Radio that the marriage ruling had opened up the floodgates for teaching homosexuality. “In my mind, I know that, `OK, this is legal now.' If somebody wants to challenge me, I'll say, `Give me a break. It's legal now,'” she told NPR. She added that she now discusses gay sex with her students as explicitly as she desires. For example, she said she tells the kids that lesbians can have [bleep]l intercourse using sex toys.

* By the following year it was in elementary school curricula. Kindergartners were given picture books telling them that same-sex couples are just another kind of family, like their own parents. In 2005, when David Parker of Lexington, MA – a parent of a kindergartner – strongly insisted on being notified when teachers were discussing homosexuality or transgenderism with his son, the school had him arrested and put in jail overnight.

Second graders at the same school were read a book, “King and King”, about two men who have a romance and marry each other, with a picture of them kissing. When parents Rob and Robin Wirthlin complained, they were told that the school had no obligation to notify them or allow them to opt-out their child.

* In 2006 the Parkers and Wirthlins filed a federal Civil Rights lawsuit to force the schools to notify parents and allow them to opt-out their elementary-school children when homosexual-related subjects were taught. The federal judges dismissed the case. The judges ruled that because same-sex marriage is legal in Massachusetts, the school actually had a duty to normalize homosexual relationships to children, and that schools have no obligation to notify parents or let them opt-out their children! Acceptance of homosexuality had become a matter of good citizenship!

Think about that: Because same-sex marriage is “legal”, a federal judge has ruled that the schools now have a duty to portray homosexual relationships as normal to children, despite what parents think or believe!

* In 2006, in the elementary school where my daughter went to Kindergarten, the parents of a third-grader were forced to take their child out of school because a man undergoing a sex-change operation and cross-dressing was being brought into class to teach the children that there are now “different kinds of families.” School officials told the mother that her complaints to the principal were considered “inappropriate behavior.”

* Libraries have also radically changed. School libraries across the state, from elementary school to high school, now have shelves of books to normalize homosexual behavior and the lifestyle in the minds of kids, some of them quite explicit and even pornographic. Parents complaints are ignored or met with hostility.

Over the past year, homosexual groups have been using taxpayer money to distribute a large, slick hardcover book celebrating homosexual marriage titled “Courting Equality” into every school library in the state.

* It’s become commonplace in Massachusetts schools for teachers to prominently display photos of their same-sex “spouses” and occasionally bring them to school functions. Both high schools in my own town now have principals who are “married” to their same-sex partners, whom they bring to school and introduce to the students.

* “Gay days” in schools are considered necessary to fight “intolerance” which may exist against same-sex relationships. Hundreds of high schools and even middle schools across the state now hold “gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender appreciation days”. They “celebrate” homosexual marriage and move forward to other behaviors such as cross-dressing and transsexuality. In my own town, a school committee member recently announced that combating “homophobia” is now a top priority.

Once homosexuality has been normalized, all boundaries will come down. The schools are already moving on to normalizing transgenderism (including cross-dressing and sex changes).

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[bleep]nyms for [bleep]genized Soy Bean Oil Solicited?

Given the Old Media's ongoing Radical [bleep]sex Ban on all words that begin with [bleep], such as [bleep]genous, [bleep]genized, [bleep]nym...

I am seeking suggestions for alternatives to provide a similar sounding experience for the general Lurking Public, with out all the annoying [bleep]s

Ahem.

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Prop 8 Sign Vandalism (www.protectmarriage.com)

Was your Yes on Proposition 8 sign vandalized or stolen?

We're receiving thousands of reports from across the state of voters' signs being destroyed or stolen. To document this intolerance and violence from opponents, the Yes on Proposition 8 web site now features a photo album of pictures sent in to us.

We also posted emails and letters from citizens describing their ordeals.

If you want to share your experience, email stopthehate2008@gmail.com

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Nuisance Sale:

Mayor Gravid Nuisance of Sodom by the Sea may already preside over the most depraved sewer of Ho-mosex Hatreds and Disease in Weimar Kalifornia, but that doesn't stop them from constatntly trying to lower the bar for the rest of us.

Ohso

Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Owrell 1984 on the Thought Police.

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San Francisco to Legalize Prostitution? (CRI)

Perhaps it's no surprise that America's most backwards city is taking even more steps to solidify its reputation as the radically anti-family capital.

In less than two weeks San Francisco residents will consider Proposition K, a local ballot measure that will disallow authorities from enforcing state prostitution laws.

Prop. K calls for legal prostitution in S.F.

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Homogartener Indoctrination - As with Orwell's Animal Farm as well as the National Ho-mosocialists of the Nazi Era and their 'hitler youth' - The Radical Ho-mosex movement wants to separate the young and pound their Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversion home - before allowing them to return home...

Preferably to denounce their parents to the Thought Police for "Ism-Obia"

In the name of 'tolerance' for their Ho-mosex "allies" of course

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School holds surprise 'Gay' Day for kindergartners
Parents outraged at public elementary's secretive 'coming out' event

October 22, 2008 By Chelsea Schilling © 2008 WorldNetDaily

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Some parents are shocked to find their children are learning to be homosexual allies and will participate in "Coming Out Day" at a public elementary school tomorrow – and they claim the school failed to notify parents.

One mother of a kindergartner who attends Faith Ringgold School of Art and Science, a K-8 charter school in Hayward, Calif., said she asked her 5-year-old daughter what she was learning at school. The little girl replied, "We're learning to be allies."
The mother also said a Gay Straight Alliance club regularly meets in the kindergarten classroom during lunch.

According to a Pacific Justice Institute report, Faith Ringgold opted not to inform the parents of its pro-homosexual (Ho-mosexual) activities beforehand. The school is celebrating "Gay and Lesbian History Month" and is in the process of observing "Ally Week," a pro-"gay" occasion usually geared toward high school students.

The school is scheduled to host discussions about families and has posted fliers on school grounds portraying only homosexuals. According to the report, a "TransAction Gender-Bender Read-Aloud" will take place Nov. 20. Students will listen to traditional stories with "gay" or transgender twists, to include "Jane and the Beanstalk."

Some parents only recently noticed posters promoting the school's "Coming Out Day" tomorrow – celebrated 12 days after the national "Coming Out Day" usually observed on Oct. 11. When WND contacted the school to confirm the event, a female representative replied, "Yes, it is scheduled on our calendar." When asked if the school made any efforts to inform parents, she refused to answer and said Hayward Unified School District would have to respond to additional questions. However, the district did not answer its phones or e-mails, and a voicemail recording would not take messages. "Coming Out Day" is not listed on the district's online school calendar.

Some of the parents contacted Pacific Justice Institute for representation when they learned the school was pushing pro-"gay" events for young children without warning.
Brad Dacus, president of Pacific Justice Institute, said opponents of California's proposed ban on same-sex marriage, or Proposition 8, often say the measure would not have an effect on public schools – but this is one of many recent developments that prove otherwise.

"Do we need any further proof that gay activists will target children as early as possible?" he asked. "Opponents of traditional marriage keep telling us that Prop. 8 has nothing to do with education. In reality, they want to push the gay lifestyle on kindergartners, and we can only imagine how much worse it will be if Prop. 8 is defeated. This is not a scenario most Californians want replayed in their elementary schools."
Concerned individuals may contact Faith Ringgold School of Art and Science by calling (510) 889-7399. The Hayward Unified School District can be reached at (510)784-2600 or by filling out the district contact form.

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Utility paying price for homosexual support

Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 10/25/2008

California supporters of Proposition 8 are taking issue with Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E)
.

Proposition 8 is designed to overturn the state Supreme Court decision legalizing homosexual "marriage." Brad Dacus of Pacific Justice Institute tells OneNewsNow why many voters are upset with the utility.

"Pacific Gas & Electric shocked and stunned many of its customers and shareholders when it decided to give $250,000 dollars -- a quarter of a million dollars -- specifically to oppose Proposition 8, which is a pro-marriage amendment to recognize marriage between one man and one woman," he explains.

American Family Association, a pro-family group based in Mississippi, sent its California subscribers an e-mail on the subject and, so far, 4,500 PG&E customers have cancelled service. Dacus expects that number to be 10,000 to 20,000 by Election Day. "People need to understand that there's [sic] two ways they can vote on this issue," he contends. "One is by going to the polls and voting for Prop. 8. The other is by choosing to switch from PG&E to an alternative natural gas provider -- and I think that in the long run, the latter can be just as important."

Dacus suggests those interested in alternative utility providers visit www.NOtoPGE.com.

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Moonbeam Madness:

"The Fix Is In" has already become the motto / summation of the 08 Election sleazon, and we still have time left to race for a deeper bottom.

Q - What is the difference between a Catfish and a Democrap Attorney General?

A - One is a bottom dwelling scum sucker... And the Other, Is a Fish.

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Jerry Brown's wording may trip up Prop. 8

Phillip Matier,Andrew Ross SFGate October 26, 2008
It was Brown's office that decided on the final ballot description for Proposition 8, the proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay and lesbian weddings.

And by changing the way the measure was framed in its title and summary, Brown just might have tipped the balance in what looks to be a close election.

Here's the story:

Prop. 8 asks voters to affirm that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California"
- a concept that voters overwhelmingly backed when they approved Proposition 22 in 2000.

Voters still favor the traditional definition of marriage, 49 to 47 percent, according to the most recent Public Policy Institute of California poll.

However, in the wake of the state Supreme Court decision in May legalizing same-sex marriage, Brown worded Prop. 8's ballot description to specify that it "eliminates the right of same-sex couples to marry."

The proponents' original title for Prop. 8 was "Limit on Marriage." What voters see on their ballot pamphlet, thanks to Brown, is, "Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry."

Prop. 8 supporters accused Brown of playing politics and went to court.

They lost. The new language went on the ballot, and pollsters said support for the ban dropped by eight points - with the most recent PPIC survey showing 52 percent of likely voters now opposing the ban.

"It all depends on how you ask the question," said Sacramento pollster Jim Moore of J. Moore Methods...

As the state's top law enforcer, Brown has taken no official position on Prop. 8.

But it's interesting to note that he joined fellow Democratic gubernatorial hopefuls San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Lt. Gov. John Garamendi at a Hollywood fundraiser for the No on 8 campaign last week.

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Hackers Attack Marriage (www.LC.org)

In Florida, the Yes2Marriage.org web site reported that in
the last week its computer system has been hacked and
infected with viruses. The attacks are obviously designed
to shut down their efforts in these final days before the vote.

The good news is that an Orlando Sentinel poll shows the
amendment gaining support - up 5% in just a few days to
57% supporting. As you know, Florida law requires that
60% of voters must support a constitutional amendment
for it to pass.

+ + Voter turnout will decide the fate of marriage!

It is now clear that voter turnout will decide whether
marriage survives in Florida.

That's why I'm asking you to do two things today:

#1 - Sign our Citizen Pledge to save marriage here:

http://www.libertyaction.org/r.asp?u=12623&RID=17947769

#2 - Forward this message to your Florida friends and urge
them to take a stand for marriage.

Anti-marriage groups will stop at nothing to defeat this
amendment. You literally are the key to saving marriage -
first in Florida and then across the Nation.

Mathew Staver, Founder and Chairman
Liberty Counsel

To sign, go here:

http://www.libertyaction.org

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Teacher outrage over dues money to homosexual agenda

Pete Chagnon - OneNewsNow - 10/27/2008

The president of the Pacific Justice Institute says a large percentage of California public school teachers are outraged over the California Teachers Association's support for homosexual marriage.

According to Pacific Justice Institute president Brad Dacus, the CTA has funneled more than $1.2 million into the fight against California's Proposition 8. That proposition, if passed on November 4, would define marriage as between one man and one woman and amend the state constitution accordingly.

Dacus also stated CTA's opposition to Prop. 8 has angered many public school teachers whose CTA membership fees have been used to fund the opposition campaign. In response, his group has launched a project called www.ChooseCharity.org.

"And what we are doing...is educating and defending the rights of teachers to opt completely out of their union and give all of their union dues, every single penny of it, instead...to a charity that's in agreement with their faith -- and our phone is ringing off the hook," he adds.

Brad Dacus PJIDacus says outrage over the CTA's opposition to Prop. 8 is even being expressed by parents who are also upset over homosexual indoctrination in public schools. That indoctrination includes the "Children Coming Out" program.

"In fact we have some state laws that were passed that actually mandate this kind of indoctrination,
" says the attorney. "But parents are opening their eyes up; they're waking up."

Dacus encourages any teachers who are upset over the activities of their unions to visit ChooseCharity.org.

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Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Anti-Family Tree

With one week to shore up support for Proposition 8, our friends in California got a much-needed boost from best-selling author and pastor Rick Warren. Nationally known for his book The Purpose Driven Life, the popular founder of Saddleback Church announced his unequivocal support for traditional marriage in a video message to supporters. In it he says, "We support Proposition 8. And if you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8. ...[T]he universal, historic definition of marriage [is] one man and one woman, for life. And every culture for 5,000 years and every religion for 5,000 years has said the definition of marriage is between one man and a woman. ...

This is not even just a Christian issue, it is a humanitarian and human issue, that God created marriage for the purpose of family, love and procreation. I urge you to support Proposition 8 and to pass that on." Not to be outdone, same-sex "marriage" advocates celebrated their new alliance with Silicon Valley last week. Technology heavyweights Apple and Google are among the many hopping on the corporate bandwagon to defeat the marriage amendment. Living up to its rainbow logo, Apple joined jean giant Levi Strauss, which already donated $25,000 to the opposition. Mac and iPod lovers will be disappointed to learn that Apple actually quadrupled Levi's gift with a $100,000 check to the "No on Prop 8" campaign last Friday...

Please log on to www.protectmarriage.com to view the group's latest ad warning voters how counterfeit marriage endangers parents' rights. And for more on how California's amendment could change the complexion of marriage across America, check out my quotes in today's New York Times piece, "A Line in the Sand for Same-Sex Marriage Foes."

Additional Resources
Pastor Rick Warren on Prop. 8
NYT: A Line in the Sand for Same-Sex Marriage Foes
www.ProtectMarriage.com

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Yes on 8 Campaign Slams New No Ad with Jack OConnell

O’Connell’s New Ad is only 96% a Lie
October 23, 2008
Contact: Chip White, 916-446-2956

Sacramento—Oct. 23—The ProtectMarriage.com—Yes on 8 campaign today criticized the "No on 8" campaign’s new television ad, released yesterday, which features California Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O’Connell.

The ad raises a new standard for using a small, cleverly worded kernel of truth to foster the Big Lie.

Specifically, the discussed whether schools are "required" to teach anything about marriage, and states that they are not.

By this logic, presumably, they would argue that no one in California is required to have a drivers’ license, only the people who want to drive cars are.

The real fact, as stated clearly in the "Yes on 8" ads, are that, whether it is technically "required" or not, that virtually all schools in California do teach marriage now, and if gay marriage is legal, they will be REQUIRED to teach about gay marriage as well, because that will be the definition of marriage.

"O’Connell’s cleverly worded denials try to trick voters into thinking schools do not teach about marriage," said Chip White, press secretary for Yes on 8. "But for the 96% of public schools that teach sex education, state law requires them to teach about marriage."

The California Department of Education’s own website says that 96 % of public schools provide instruction under the Comprehensive Sexual Health and HIV/AIDS Prevention Act (Educ. Code Sec. 51930, et seq.) and every school that provides instruction under that Act must provide instruction and materials that teach about marriage. Additionally, the Department of Education’s own checklist for instruction under the Act confirms that instruction about marriage is required for the school district to be in compliance with state law.

"There is no foundation for O’Connell’s untruthful statements that nothing in California law requires teaching about marriage," said Andrew Pugno, general counsel for Yes on 8. "The voters deserve to hear the truth. While O’Connell may personally favor gay marriage, as a public official it is his obligation to tell the truth about California’s education laws."

The Yes on 8 campaign sent a letter to O’Connell yesterday demanding that he retract his misstatements. The letter, which is attached, identifies Education Code sections that demonstrate public schools do teach about marriage, at a rate of 96%.

"Perhaps if O’Connell spent less time making false statements in TV ads," said White, "he’d have more time to read his own website."

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Kindergarten Cop-rophile Allies.

This article was buried in the mid section of the Times with an innocuous headline - as opposed to the Front Page with a Pro-Homosex Headline, which is where stories the Old Media likes are printed.

George Orwell discusses the phenomenon of Radical Indoctrination of the yongest and most vulnerable members of soceity by the 'revolution' in both his books. In 1984 we have the 'Womyns Junior Anti (hetero) Sex League' and in Animal Farm we have the young pups taken off for training in politically correct thinking.

Which is almost the same as kindergarten, except for the bit about PLEDGE CARDS...

Ohso

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

BTW - Note how the Message Board CENSORS have Bleeped even articles from their Own Paper, for using Ungood Words like Ho-mosexual.

Thank Goodness that Kindergarteners are no longer allowed to drink Homogenized Milk - In the new National Homosociaist order.

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Ally Week pledge cards draw parents' rebuke

 

HAYWARD CA— School district officials will evaluate lesson plans used to expose students to homosexual ideals after parents raised concerns that materials used in relation to last week's national Ally Week were not appropriate for kindergartners...

"It was designated as Ally Week, but it is still not clear what exactly was taught," he said. "But (the pledge cards) are very specific to trying to turn kids who can barely write their own name into allies for the gay and lesbian cause."

Pledge cards were distributed to classrooms for students to confirm their alliance in promoting safer schools"for all students, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression."

By signing the card, students become allies and pledge to "not use anti-LGBT language intervene — when I feel I can — in situations where others are using anti-LGBT language or slurs, or harassing other students, and actively support safer schools efforts."

Some parents said they interpreted that as forcing youths to take a stand on issues that are inappropriate for their age...

McReynolds said. "But at the kindergarten level, when these students don't know what the phrases mean, is inappropriate.",,,

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Thanks Ohso for giving me an opportunity to let everyone know what Ally week is all about so that others can see just how twisted your so called logic is.

Allies play a vital role in making schools safer for all students, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression. In fact, the first Gay-Straight Alliance was the idea of a straight ally.

Students created Ally Week as a way to build upon the unifying work GSAs do across the country by encouraging people to be allies against anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools. Whether you belong to a GSA or not, Ally Week is the perfect time for you and your friends to sign the Ally Pledge.

What is Ally week?

 Ally Week involves a week of activities designed to encourage students to be Allies against anti-LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) language, bullying and harassment in America’s schools.

What is an Ally?

Often referred to as “straight allies,” allies generally are non-LGBT people who are committed to ending bias and discrimination against LGBT people. While straight allies are an integral part of GLSEN’s Ally Week, the term “ally” is more inclusive within the Safe Schools Movement to refer to anyone who supports ending anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools. For instance, a bisexual adult can be an ally to LGBT students, and a lesbian student can be an ally to a transgender student.

Why do we need an Ally Week?

The unfortunate truth is that anti-LGBT bullying, violence and harassment are commonplace in America’s schools. Actual and perceived sexual orientation and gender expression are two of the top three reasons teens report that students are harassed at their schools, according to From Teasing to Torment: School Climate in America, a GLSEN-commissioned report by Harris Interactive. In other words, all students – LGBT and straight alike – perceive anti-LGBT bullying and harassment as a serious problem in their schools. The vast majority of these same students said their schools would be better of if this issue was better addressed. GLSEN’s 2005 National School Climate Survey found that 4 out of 5 LGBT students report verbal, sexual or physical harassment at school and more than 30% report missing at least a day of school in the past month out of fear for their personal safety. GLSEN’s Ally Week brings us closer to making anti-LGBT bullying, harassment and name-calling unacceptable in America’s schools.

 So anyone can see that what Ohso is ranting about is an organization that is trying to stop people like him from bullying or harassing or intimidating other people who happen to be different from him. Of course he is against it because it is really hard to be a great big bigot in a society that has no tolerance for bigots or the hateful actions of bigots.

For those who are interested in ending prejudice and bigotry in our schools here is where you can get more information. http://www.allyweek.org/about/index.cfm

While you at it please vote NO on hate proposition 8. Let people like Ohso know that California is a pluralistic democracy and that means equal rights for everyone not just the radical right wingers.

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CALIFORNIA'S LARGEST COMMUNITY COLLEGE SUPPORTS TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE
October 24, 2008 www.protectmarriage.com Contact: Chip White, 916-446-2956

The students of American River College, the largest community college in California, rejected an attempt to recall nine student council members in response to their endorsement of Prop. 8.  Results of the vote were released by college officials Thursday afternoon.  All of the student council members targeted survived the recall by a 200-300 vote margin out of the 3,531 ballots cast on Tuesday and Wednesday.

"This is a great development for supporters of traditional marriage.
Despite the efforts of gay activists and a media frenzy, the students themselves have reaffirmed support for traditional marriage,
" said Chip White, press secretary for Yes on 8.

"This is exactly what will happen when voters finally have their say on November 4."

According to the Sacramento Bee, student council member Viktor Choban, 25, said he voted his conscience. "This resolution has everything to do with education because it affects all the public schools and colleges," the Bee quoted Choban as saying. "If Proposition 8 fails, schools will absolutely be required to teach that gay marriage is equal to normal marriage, thereby confusing students and children about the most basic roles of men and women in society."

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Sorry, Gay Folks...Liberals....I know I have to give up my membership after this.

OHSO, LivermoreJoe...Bubbawhatshisname....and the other conspiracy theorists:

You were right. The jig is UP!

We are all after your kids. We want them in our exclusive gay club. We want to convert them ALL! Our evil plan was to teach them in school. First, we wanted to elect an evil Overlord as president - someone anti-American who has terrorist ties. THEN, we wanted to vote down Prop 8 so we could teach all of YOUR children who you so painstakingly taught those wonderful Christian fundementals, the GAY WAY. Because, after all, we have a Gay Agenda. What WILL WE DO with the Gay Agenda, you ask? Why, paint the town pink for the annual dirty diaper flogging festival! Oh, and pass legislation to allow the four (not three!) toed sloth marriages to, you got it! your kids! and such. What else?! Then, we are going to take them to the Planet [bleep], where they will spend the rest of their gay days happily ever after...

Sounds ludicrous, doesnt it? This pretty much sums up the feeling I get when I read the rhetoric you guys spew....

Just thought Id give a little back :) And it's not even Christmas!

 

 

 

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Elementary schools promoting homosexual agenda
Charlie Butts and Marty Cooper - OneNewsNow - 10/29/2008

California parents learned too late that some of their young children were being taught to accept homosexuality.

Gay FamilyBrad Dacus, founder of Pacific Justice Institute (PJI), says the indoctrination at "Coming Out Day" involved children as young as kindergarten at Faith Ringgold School of Art and Science in Hayward, California.

"This is an event where they have pictures [and] posters up, telling stories and encouraging people who feel that they are homosexual or opposite gender to freely express that and articulate and affirm that," Dacus explains.

According to a PJI press release, parents noticed that the posters -- which claimed to promote families -- depicted homosexual "families" only. The legal firm says the school is continuing to celebrate Gay and Lesbian History Month for the rest of October, but parents are being ignored in the process.

"There's been no opportunity for parents to opt out, no consideration and tolerance for the wide diversity of parents' views and perspectives that are different than this," Dacus points out.

Brad Dacus PJIOn November 20, the school will host "TransAction Gender-Bender Read-Aloud," where students will hear adapted tales such as "Jane and the Beanstalk."

"Do we need any further proof that gay activists will target children as early as possible?" the Christian attorney asks.

Dacus is certain there are outraged California parents curious about what they can do to stop the indoctrination. "The parents who would like to contest or would like to fight it should contact us at Pacific Justice Institute," he adds.

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DUCK AND BLUBBER DRILL - "PINK BRICK Posse Rides again:

Some voters may have recently seen Democrap Icon ‘DiFi’ Feinstein Pimping on behalf of the Hatemonger / Pervert lobby currently trashing marriage. I wanted to write this to let people know that it is OK to Feel Sad for DiFi – as she was under a lot of pressure and fearful of Radical Homosex Violence if she failed to pander to their every demand.

You see, Each Year in Sodom by the Sea, just before the annual DYKE MARCH / Anti Male Hate Riot – a committee of the alliance between the SEPARATIST / Neo-Exterminationist coven of Dyke Misandry, and their allies in the Coprophile Cult of Feces Focused Homo-Anal Perversions – get together and decide which public figures they want to intimidate with symbolic violence.

The “Pink Brick” symbol is taken from the Post Judy Garland Funeral – Drag Queen Riots in new york city, when a bunch of Drunken, Drugged Up, Hormone Crazed Male Drag Queens – far gone in competition to see who could stage the ‘best’ friend of Dorothy Hissy Fit…

– decided to attack the Police who had come to quell the tantrum theater outside a bar known as the ‘Stonewall’ – (where these depraved drag queens ho’s used to service their clients in the can and against the wall out back) – by throwing Brown Bricks and other (excrement deleted) at the police, all in keeping with their promotion of ‘tolerance’ for their mainstream homosex ‘lifestyle’.

Poor DiFi – Guess she just had to pander to these Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions – she is probably getting  a bit too old to duck.

No need to worry though, In Weimar Kalifornia -Tolerance Macht Frei!

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Not merely the validity of experience but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. George Orwell – 1984  On the Thought Police.

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PINK BRICK DELIVERED! This year – the recipient is:
Watch Board President Mikayla Connell deliver the Pink Brick to Bill O'Reilly in person on his show on June 4, 2008: Unlike past recipients, Bill O'Reilly's receipt of this award cannot be attributed to any one stance or event...  While there are many instances to which we might refer, his lesbian gang segment...
O'Reilly and his guest mischaracterize the California Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriage. The right to marriage was not created "out of whole cloth," but rather was determined in the 1947 Perez decision.  O'Reilly refers to the decision as an "insult" to the people of California.

ABOUT THE PINK BRICK
The Pink Brick recipient is a person or institution which has done significant harm to the interests of LGBT peoples to receive the Pink Brick. This person is selected by public vote for receipt of the Pink
Brick, a faux “award” that represents the first brick hurled at the Stonewall Rebellion on June 27, 1969.

PAST PINK BRICK RECIPIENTs: The following were the Grand Marshals and Pink Brick Recipients for the 2006 & 2007 San Francisco Pride events:   2007 George W. Bush 2006 CA Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger 2005  Senator Diane Feinstein

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A Note of Desperation - Despite all the Hollywerid Ho-mosex Glamour the Facts are Still Ugly.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

CLAIMS BY NO ON PROP 8 GROW MORE DESPERATE AS POLLING NUMBERS SINK
October 30, 2008 Contact: Chip White, 916-215-4392 www.protectmarraige.com

SACRAMENTO— Polls continue to slide for No on Prop 8 Equity for All, as reports leak out that the campaign’s management structure is in utter disarray. A series of orchestrated, factually false press statements have been issued alleging the sky will fall if Proposition 8 passes on Tuesday.

“Clearly, this is nothing more than a floundering campaign grasping at straws to save its effort,” said Chip White, Protectmarriage.com – Yes on 8 campaign spokesman. “It’s quite sad because those who are hurt most are voters. We invited the No on Prop 8 campaign to debate Proposition 8 this weekend in a live, televised format, but it declined our invitation. If the No campaign is so confident in its arguments, why refuse the debate?”

Claims reporting Proposition 8 has nothing to do with schools, to Proposition 8 will cause a high-tech brain drain, are being passed off as fact. These claims are nothing but noisy rhetoric and last minute campaign stunts aimed at confusing voters instead of educating them.

 

Claim One: Proposition 8 has nothing to do with schools.

Truth: A few weeks ago children in a 1st grade class attended their teacher’s gay wedding in San Francisco on a school-organized field trip. The principal called it a “teachable moment.”  That sure sounds like same-sex marriage instruction in schools.

This week kindergartners at Faith Ringgold School of Arts and Science in Hayward, CA, were asked to sign pledge cards saying they would not use anti-LGBT language. Parents who felt their children were far too young for such a discussion, most at an average age of 5 who are just learning the basics of reading and writing, were not permitted to opt-out, but instead had to keep their children home from school.

As we have clearly demonstrated, California Education Code Section 51933 states schools “shall teach respect for marriage and committed relationships.” According to the California Department of Education website, 96% of schools teach this curriculum.  And under the Supreme Court’s ruling, current California law means teaching about marriage includes instruction on gay marriage. Thus, gay marriage is already part of the curriculum. Perhaps because of these simple facts, Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O’Connell refuses to debate..

 

Claim Two: Proposition 8 would have no effect on a church’s tax-exempt status.

Truth: The No on 8 campaign used a classic lawyer trick, rolled out a group of lawyers yesterday to falsely state our concern about the impact of same sex marriage on religious freedoms, and then saying our concerns are false.  For the record, the Yes on 8 campaign has never said that churches, acting as churches, would be forced to perform gay marriages.  However, it is clear that where churches interact with the public square, in providing social services or even conducting business, their tax exempt status is at risk.

In one well publicized case, Catholic Charities in Boston ran adoption facilities that managed 700 cases since 1987, most involving children with special needs. Catholic Charities placed such children into parents in traditional marriages, according to their faith. After gay marriage was legalized in Massachusetts, the state told Catholic Charities it had to place children with gay marriage couples as well. Faced with such a decision, Catholic Charities reluctantly decided to stop providing adoption services.

Another religious non-profit, Ocean Grove Campground in New Jersey, lost a portion of its tax-exempt status on a rental pavilion because it refused to rent the facility to a lesbian couple for a civil commitment ceremony.

 

Claim Three: Proposition 8 discriminates against gays and lesbians.

Truth: Under California’s current domestic partnership law, (Family Code Section 297), gay couples are awarded the same legal rights and privileges as married couples. California has the strongest civil union/domestic partnership law in the nation, and Proposition 8 does not take away any of those rights.

 

Claim Four: If Proposition 8 passes there will be a brain drain to gay-friendly Massachusetts.

Truth: Gay marriage has been legal in Massachusetts for five years and California still remains the epicenter of technology, biomed and other science-based industries. If a “gay brain-drain” was going to happen, shouldn’t it have started 5 years ago?

“The claims being disseminated by the No on 8 campaign are preposterous,” said White, “and have no basis in fact. We realize the No on 8 has a new team that has to justify their hiring, but cheap campaign stunts and false claims do not serve the public.”

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Battle for Florida Marriage Amendment Heats Up (www.LC.org)
Desperate suit by opponents represented by indicted attorney shows they are in a panic

Orlando, FL - Florida Red and Blue, a front group for the radical homosexual agenda which opposes Amendment 2, the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment, is in a panic as we head to the polls on Tuesday. The group filed a frivolous lawsuit against several people and organizations, including Florida4Marriage.org (the official sponsor of the Amendment), Florida Family Policy Council, Florida Family Action, John Stemberger and Tom Messer.

The attorney representing Florida Red and Blue is Benedict P. Kuehne, who was indicted in February 2008 on charges of conspiracy, money laundering and obstruction of justice, seeking more than 5 million dollars in forfeiture. The federal indictment of Kuehne and two others from Medellin, Columbia, alleges that Kuehne funneled drug money through his law firm trust account from Fabio Ochoa Vazquez (one of the world’s largest cocaine traffickers and a leader of the Medellin Cartel). If convicted, Kuehne could face 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, in addition to the forfeiture.

The lawsuit filed by Kuehne alleges election law violations. Florida Red and Blue's complaint, filed at the Florida Division of Elections, has already been dismissed. Even though Florida law does not allow a private cause of action, Florida Red and Blue retained Kuehne to file this frivolous lawsuit anyway. Liberty Counsel is representing the defendants and will be in court later today in Miami seeking sanctions against Florida Red and Blue.

From the beginning, advocates of same-sex marriage have tried to keep the people from voting on the marriage amendment. The ACLU filed suit in 2005 seeking to block the amendment. Mathew Staver, Founder of Liberty Counsel and Dean of Liberty University School of Law, argued the case at the Florida Supreme Court, which ruled 7-0 in favor of the Amendment. Florida requires a 60 percent margin to pass Amendment 2. The polls show that Amendment 2 is polling close to 60 percent, but the best indicator shows that no more than 34 percent have opposed it. Fearing they will lose, Florida Red and Blue has resorted to lies and frivolous lawsuits.

Other marriage amendments on the ballot tomorrow include Proposition 8 in California and Proposition 102 in Arizona.

Commenting on the marriage amendments, Staver said: "The future of marriage and the well-being of our children are on the line tomorrow. Same-sex marriage advocates have resorted to lies and frivolous lawsuits to prevent the people from having a voice in this important matter.

Despite their frantic attempts to bypass the people, the people will vote 'Yes' on marriage."

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8 Days for Proposition 8: Day 7 9www.protectmarriage.com)

Tomorrow is Election Day.

That means we have just one day left to remind our friends, family and associates about just how important Proposition 8 is to our state and nation. As you call and email your friends, tell them that Proposition 8 will restore the definition of marriage, reaffirm Proposition 22, and reject the judicial activism of four tyrannical judges.

Remind them that those opposing Proposition 8 are lying when they say same-sex marriage won't be taught in our schools. Tell them about the kindergartners in Hayward who were told by their teacher to sign pledges that they will "be an ally" of gays, lesbians and transgenders. Parents were outraged that not only were their innocent children coerced into signing these pledges, they were never informed their children would undergo such indoctrination.

Ask your friends and neighbors if they want their children to be taught about controversial sexual lifestyles at the age of five. That is exactly what will happen if we fail to pass Proposition 8.
We cannot overestimate the importance of passing Proposition 8. Our families and our children depend up on it.

Tomorrow's email: On Day 7 of our campaign, we will call and email friends to remind them to vote Yes on Proposition 8 on Election Day

Read: School Clams Up on 'Gay' Pledge Cards Given to Kindergartners

Read: My school district will teach gay marriage and Jack O'Connell knows it!

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'Gay' threats target Christians over same-sex 'marriage' ban
'Burn their f---ing churches, then tax charred timbers'

November 05, 2008 © 2008 WorldNetDaily

Decisions by voters in Florida, Arizona and California to join residents of 27 other states with constitutional protections for traditional marriage have prompted threats of violence against Christians and their churches.

"Burn their f---ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers,"
wrote "World O Jeff" on the JoeMyGod blogspot today within hours of California officials declaring Proposition 8 had been approved by a margin of 52 percent to 48 percent. Confirmation on voter approval of amendments in Florida and Arizona came earlier.

The amendments in all three states essentially limit marriage to one man and one woman. In California, the measure states the only marriages "valid and recognized" in the state are those between one man and one woman.

Thirty states now have adopted marriage amendments. However, in California, the vitriol appeared especially high since the state Supreme Court in May created same-sex marriage for homosexuals. Proposition 8 overruled the court decision, readopting the marriage definition California voters adopted in 2000.

On a blog website, "Tread" wrote, "I hope the No on 8 people have a long list and long knives."

Another contributor to the JoeMyGod website said, "While financially I supported the Vote No, and was vocal to everyone and anyone who would listen, I have never considered being a violent radical extremist for our equal rights. But now I think maybe I should consider becoming one. Perhaps that is the only thing that will affect the change we so desperately need and deserve."

A contributor identifying himself as "Joe" said, "I swear, I'd murder people with my bare hands this morning." Matt Barber, director of cultural affairs for Liberty Counsel, called the statements "hate crimes" for their intent to create violence against someone based on their beliefs.

"This is not just a matter of some people blowing off steam because they're not happy with a political outcome. This is criminal activity," he said. "The homosexual lobby is always calling for 'tolerance' and 'diversity' and playing the role of victim. They claim to deplore violence and 'hate.' Here we have homosexuals inciting, and directly threatening, violence against Christians."

On the "Queerty" website, "Stenar" asked, "Can someone in CA please go burn down the Mormon temples there, PLEASE. I mean seriously. DO IT."

"I'm going to give them something to be f---ing scared of. … I'm a radical who is now on a mission to make them all pay for what they've done,
" wrote "Jonathan."

Liberty Counsel's Barber said, "This is not free speech; these are 'hate crimes' under the existing definition. Imagine if Christian websites were advocating such violence against homosexuals. There'd be outrage, and rightfully so. It'd be national front-page news. Federal authorities should immediately investigate these threats and prosecute the perpetrators to the fullest extent of the law."

On yet another site, "Americablog," "scottinsf" wrote, "Trust me. I've got a big list of names of mormons and catholics that were big supporters of Prop 8. … As far as mormons and catholics … I warn them to watch their backs."

"I hope they all rot in hell, those servants of a lying, corrupt devil! BAN RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM," wrote Angelo. One contributor went so far as to threaten to take out his frustrations on his own family. "You want me to come back to Idaho for Christmas? Oh wait, my partner and I can't share the same bed? We can't show any affection or any outward sign of our love for each other? Well sorry family ... no Uncle Adam and all his expensive gifts and delicious cooking for you. Your childrens' presents will now be donations in their name to the equal rights organization of my choosing. As will their and your birthday presents, wedding presents, graduation presents, and everything else I give going forward."

The writer continued, "Remember, I'm angry. And I'm strong from my years at the gym and really am ready to take my frustration out on someone or something." Barber said the Human Rights Campaign, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and "other leaders within the homosexual lobby" should call immediately for an end to such threats.

There were suggestions of a different type of violence, too. "Hope the gay waiters at their hotel p---ed in all the drinks they served these cretins," "Jake" wrote about protectors of traditional marriage.

"If you're planning a heterosexual wedding in California
… be prepared for picketers. Designate someone to watch the parking lot … You're going to have lots of unexpected expenses. Add $500 to your budget for security. … Be prepared for the flowers not lasting to the reception or the tuxedos showing up two sizes too small or the music at the reception being a way too loud or the cake tasting a little funny," stated another threat. "Be afraid. Be very afraid. We are everywhere."

Another even listed addresses of Mormon facilities. Mormon, Catholic and other religious groups were active in supporting the marriage definition.

"I do not openly advocate firebombing or vandalism. What you do with the information is your own choice," wrote Jeremy.

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Liberty Counsel Files Initial Argument to Protect California’s Marriage Amendment
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San Francisco, CA – Today Liberty Counsel filed its preliminary opposition summarizing its position regarding why the California Supreme Court should not consider petitions seeking to overturn the California Marriage Protection Act (Proposition 8). The Court has asked each party to provide these today. Liberty Counsel previously filed a motion to intervene on behalf of Campaign for California Families, and Liberty Counsel is submitting its preliminary opposition proposed by interveners.

For the second time in eight years, more than 50 percent of California voters have confirmed that what has been true for thousands of years still remains true today: Marriage is the union of one man and one woman. And, for the second time in eight years, same-sex marriage advocates are seeking to thwart the will of the people by asking the California Supreme Court to overturn Proposition 8.

Liberty Counsel argues that the Court should dismiss the petitions, because Proposition 8 is an amendment that was properly enacted by the voters of California through an initiative and is not a “revision” that needs the legislature’s approval, as same-sex marriage advocates claim. Liberty Counsel also argues that the Court should deny the petitions because they threaten the people’s right to amend the Constitution by initiative, which is a right reserved to the people in the California Constitution.

Proposition 8 does not alter the balance of power between the various branches of government, nor does it undermine or eliminate fundamental rights. Instead, Proposition 8 memorializes the centuries-old definition of a universal social institution by adding 14 words to the Constitution: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” The amendment passed with 52% of California voters. Now that it has been passed, the amendment will nullify the 4-3 ruling of the California Supreme Court issued on May 15.

Overturning Proposition 8 would contravene the Court’s role as protector of the democratic process. It is overturning Proposition 8, not validating Proposition 8, that would wreak havoc on the democratic process.

Mathew D. Staver, Founder of Liberty Counsel and Dean of Liberty University School of Law, commented: “The people of California have spoken by affirming traditional marriage. It is time to move on. Fourteen words that reaffirm the historic and common sense definition of marriage are not a radical revision to the Constitution. It is a simple affirmation of what has been and should always be.”

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Why same-sex 'marriage' matters
Marcia Segelstein - OneNewsNow Columnist - 11/18/2008
Despite the fact that Americans just elected one of the most liberal presidents in history, they also voted to uphold traditional marriage in every state where it was on the ballot...

No law prevents these religious organizations from conducting such rituals, nor would most Americans expect or want the government to dictate doctrine to churches.  But if and when same-sex "marriage" becomes law, it becomes against the law not to follow it.  And that could indeed result in the government not only dictating doctrine to churches, but to religious schools, and to individuals.

Right now, individuals and corporations may choose to treat same-sex unions the same way they treat traditional marriage, or not.  As Karnick writes so succinctly: "This, of course, is the truly liberal and tolerant position."  What's at issue here is government-enforced recognition that same-sex "marriage" is legally identical to traditional marriage, no matter the individuals' or institutions' religious beliefs.

Government intrusion on religion is what's at stake.

Despite what proponents of gay "marriage" argue, there are serious and wide-ranging implications for society by redefining something so fundamental.  Already in Canada and Europe, pastors have been threatened with legal challenges as a result of teaching traditional Christian doctrine on marriage.  And what about parents who want the right to be the ones teaching morality to their children?  Will they have a legal leg to stand on when public schools teach that gay "marriage" is okay?

Already, thanks to GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network), homosexuality is being introduced in schools at younger and younger ages. Just a few days ago, kindergarten students at a California school were given pledge cards produced by GLSEN and asked to sign them to support a "harassment-free school."  Parents protested.  But is there a day coming when such protests would bring charges of discrimination, punishable by law?

"Equality" laws in Great Britain recently forced a Christian adoption agency there out of business.  Like a similar case in Massachusetts (where same-sex "marriage" is law), a Roman Catholic adoption agency in Wales can no longer continue its work of placing abandoned and abused children in homes.  Why?  Based on its Christian beliefs, St. David's Children sought out only homes with a mother and a father.  As one British MP pointed out, there are plenty of other adoption agencies gay couples could have used.  The government, because of innocuous-sounding "equality" laws, has essentially told the agency it can no longer base its work on its Roman Catholic tenets because they are, in effect, discriminatory.  That is frightening.  Exactly who are these laws supposed to be liberating, or for that matter, protecting?

Will it someday be considered hate speech to publicly state what researchers have already determined: that children fare best when raised by their biological father and mother?  By sheer common sense, most people realize that basic fact. We've seen the damage inflicted on children by divorce, for example, in study after study.  The vital role that fathers play in their children's lives has been well documented, and we know that in households without fathers children statistically don't fare nearly as well.

Maggie Gallagher, president of the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy, has written extensively about this issue.  "Marriage as a universal human idea," she says, "has deep roots in three enduring truths about human beings everywhere: Sex between men and women makes babies, society needs babies, and babies need a father as well as a mother."

Same-sex couples who have children (by adoption or other means) are automatically removing either a father or a mother from their children's lives.  Of course children from traditional marriages often end up in less than ideal situations because of divorce or the death of a parent.  But that doesn't mean we should impose on a child from the outset a less-than-ideal scenario.  Shouldn't we be aiming for what's best for children?

Shortly after the California Supreme Court ruled that same-sex "marriage" is a constitutional right, and that sexual orientation is a protected class, it also ruled that a Christian doctor who refused to inseminate a lesbian couple should face legal consequences.  My Roman Catholic obstetrician does not perform abortions, presumably for religious reasons.  The state cannot force him to do so.  It is his choice.  But soon, given the fact that same-sex "marriage" has just been made legal in my home state of Connecticut, he may be forced to act against his religious beliefs when it comes to same-sex couples, or face legal consequences like the doctor in California.

What's at risk in this fight is not the civil rights of homosexuals.  What's at risk is religious freedom for every American.  That and the not-so-small problem of undermining what has been for centuries the very foundation of society.


After ten years as a producer for CBS News, forty-something years as an Episcopalian, and fifteen years as a mother, Marcia Segelstein (mvsegelstein@optonline.net) considers herself a reluctant rebel against the mainstream media, the Episcopal Church (and others which make up the rules instead of obeying them), and the decaying culture her children witness every day. Her pieces have been published in "First Things," "Touchstone: A Journal of Mere Christianity," and "BreakpointOnline," and she is a contributing editor for Salvo magazine.

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Gay is Not the New Black
by Marcia Segelstein  

Protesters opposed to the passing of Proposition 8 in California, when not busy defacing churches, interrupting religious services, targeting Mormons, and mailing envelopes containing white powder to Prop 8 supporters, are likening their fight for gay “marriage” to the civil rights movement.

They carry signs reading “Gay Is the New Black,” and “Gayism is the New Racism.”

As columnist Dennis Prager points out, blacks voted overwhelmingly for Proposition 8 and tend to be socially conservative.  He writes that “the people least impressed with the comparison of the gay struggle to redefine marriage with the black struggle for racial equality are blacks.”  Prager believes that many blacks “find the comparison demeaning and insulting.”

The struggle for black civil rights and the fight to allow a man to “marry” another man are simply “not in the same moral universe.”

The civil rights movement was about the rights of blacks to be treated equally.  It was about not forcing a person to sit at the back of a bus because of his skin color; it was about not stopping a black person from sharing water fountains with whites; it was about allowing blacks and whites to sit together at lunch counters; it was about schools welcoming students regardless of the color of their skin; it was about making sure blacks could exercise their legal right to vote.

“The fact is that states like California already grant people who wish to love a member of the same sex virtually every right that marriage bestows except the word married,” writes Prager.

He’s right.  It’s an insult to blacks to compare the two movements.  They are simply not moral equivalents.

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California Homosexual Activists Rough Up Elderly Woman, Use N-Word Against Blacks, March Through Police Blockades, Pound on Doors of Businesses, and Protest Outside Churches
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Thomasson: "Homosexuals are demonstrating their intense intolerance against people of faith, people of color, and anyone who believes in real marriage between a man and a woman."

Sacramento, California -- Homosexual activists in California have roughed up an elderly woman who believes in traditional marriage. During protests over the past several days, homosexuals angry about the passage of Proposition 8, which reserves marriage licenses for a man and a woman, have hurled the N-word against black persons walking by, marched through police blockades, pounded on doors of businesses, and protested outside churches.

View the dramatic coverage from Palm Springs' KPSP CBS 2 of 69-year-old Phyllis Burgess being assaulted, shouted at, spit at, and her cross destroyed by homosexual activists on November 7, 2008. At the urging of police, Burgess is pressing charges.

"This screaming and shouting, name-calling and pushing by homosexual activists is not unlike a small child throwing a fit because he doesn't get his way," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, a leading California-based pro-family organization that supports marriage for one man and one woman. "The public is getting a clue that homosexual activists don't like democracy and are willing to trample anyone and anything that gets in their way."

"How is it that those who demand tolerance from others are so intolerant of the people's vote to reserve marriage for a man and a woman?" asked Thomasson. "It looks like the No on 8 activists could use some diversity training. Homosexuals are demonstrating their intense intolerance against people of faith, people of color, and anyone who believes in real marriage between a man and a woman."

"Most people are appalled by the violent, in-your-face behavior of homosexual activists," said Thomasson. "This is very different from the peaceful marches of Martin Luther King, Jr. Of course, it has to be different. Then, people of color were asking for natural civil rights; today, homosexual activists are demanding that the public endorse their unnatural sexual behavior."

Click here for documentation of homosexual activists hurling the n-word at blacks

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Turkey Baster Bozo Court to Rule on Radical Ho-mosex Attack on Marriage Again - Another Chance to Trash the Voters and Soceity...

As if they are capable of anything other than Pandering to the Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions of the Radical Ho-mosex agenda...

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Prop. 8 opponents rejecting democracy
Chad Groening - OneNewsNow - 11/21/2008 7:00:00 AM

Prop. 8 legal battleAccording to a conservative media watchdog, the mainstream media is completely ignoring a wave of quasi-fascism that has descended upon California and several other states by radical homosexual activists who don't respect the will of the people.

Brian Fitzpatrick, senior editor at the Culture and Media Institute, recently wrote a column called "Crouching Fascism, Hidden Media." He says on November 4, a majority of voters in liberal California approved Proposition 8, a constitutional amendment declaring that only marriages between a man and a woman are valid in the state. But he points out that militant homosexuals have not respected that decision and have vandalized property, threatened people, and mailed white powder to Mormon churches. Fitzpatrick calls that "fascism."

"Fascism rejects democratic values. We see outright rejection of democracy in California. We see people trying to turn to the courts," he explains. "We see people trying to victimize or punish people who voted against them -- and this is not the American way. It's a very frightening cultural development."

The national media, Fitzpatrick adds, has been AWOL concerning these incidents. "All we've seen is continued coverage of this issue as a civil rights battle or this issue as a blow against homosexuals and homosexual couples. We see emotional pitches," he says. "We see no serious analysis of the significance of homosexual or same-sex marriage, whether it's good or bad for society."

Fitzpatrick, whose columns appear regularly at OneNewsNow, believes America has not yet seen political violence of the kind that led to takeovers of Germany and Italy by fascist elements before World War II. He contends if media outlets do not investigate these current incidents, expose the perpetrators, and pressure the government to press charges, only greater political violence can be anticipated -- even eventually against the media themselves.

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Homosexual scheming... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/opinion/29blow.html

The New York Times 29 November 2008
Op-Ed Columnist - Gay Marriage and a Moral Minority - By Charles M. Blow

We now know that blacks probably didn't tip the balance for Proposition 8.
Myth busted. However, the fact remains that a strikingly high percentage of
blacks said they voted to ban same-sex marriage in California. Why?

There was one very telling (and virtually ignored) statistic in CNN's exit
poll data that may shed some light: There were far more black women than
black men, and a higher percentage of them said that they voted for the
measure than the men. How wide was the gap? According to the exit poll, 70
percent of all blacks said that they voted for the proposition. But 75
percent of black women did. There weren't enough black men in the survey to
provide a reliable percentage for them. However, one can mathematically
deduce that of the raw number of survey respondents, nearly twice as many
black women said that they voted for it than black men.

Why? Here are my theories:

(1) Blacks are much more likely than whites to attend church, according to
a Gallup report, and black women are much more likely to attend church than
black men. Anyone who has ever been to a black church can attest to the
disparity in the pews. And black women's church attendance may be increasing.

According to a report issued this spring by Child Trends, a nonprofit
research center, weekly church attendance among black 12th graders rose 26
percent from 1993 to 2006, while weekly church attendance for white 12th
graders remained virtually flat. In 2006, those black teenagers were nearly
50 percent more likely to attend church once a week than their white
counterparts. And it is probably safe to assume that many of them were
going to church with their mothers since Child Trends reported that around
the time that they were born, nearly 70 percent of all black children were
born to single mothers.

(2) This high rate of church attendance by blacks informs a very
conservative moral view. While blacks vote overwhelmingly Democratic, an
analysis of three years of national data from Gallup polls reveals that
their views on moral issues are virtually indistinguishable from those of
Republicans. Let's just call them Afropublicrats.

(3) Marriage can be a sore subject for black women in general. According to
2007 Census Bureau data, black women are the least likely of all women to
be married and the most likely to be divorced. Women who can't find a man
to marry might not be thrilled about the idea of men marrying each other.

Proponents of gay marriage would do well to focus on these women if they
want to win black votes. A major reason is that black women vote at a
higher rate than black men. In the CNN national exit poll, there were 40
percent more black women than black men, and in California there were 50
percent more. But gay marriage advocates need to hone their strategy to
reach them.

First, comparing the struggles of legalizing interracial marriage with
those to legalize gay marriage is a bad idea. Many black women do not seem
to be big fans of interracial marr