Date line yesterday (I think) The notorious Barack Obama was overheard calling a female reporter "sweetie" this date. Of course you know, this is a preliminary report as you can count on your faithful “Fox News Channel” to smugly spend ungodly hours investigating the “truth” to this unspeakable travesty.
People, are we going to stand for this? Yo, you legions of Obama bashers..... where is the outrage? Can we count on you to do you duty? Ohso, Clayton, Madcali4nian, et al. Step forward, and be a foot solider for democracy . Uncle Sam needs you. Can we count on you noble citizens to text message your Senator with your indignation and DEMAND that a republican “Special Prosecutor” be appointed to investigate this “abomination”?
Thank you for your time and thank you for your patients. Don’t forget to vote.
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Chewy,
Who was it that said, “Words matter”? :)
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You know even Jesus Christ lost his cool in the temple. If your looking to elect the perfect representation of mankind ......a paragon of virtue, don't hold your breathe. McCain has anger management issues to resolve, and Hillary tends to exaggerate a bit. I could go on for hours.
Obama has had to live his life in a fish bowl for the past year. (Yes I know, "the pound of flesh" one must endure to run for President). Since many people would rather choose to scrutinized every aspect of his personal life, and choose instead to not discuss the issues…… and after a year of this BS, I think my man is holding up pretty well. Kind of affirms his resilient and patient character.
Ronald Reagan, the iconic symbol of the perfect Republican President, had a White House astrologer. How’s that for a test of character?
Nice talking to you , TinRoof, have a good day.
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Chewy,
I read your posting on the “sweetie” scandal and since I always appreciate a sarcastic sense of humor I wanted to respond in a lighthearted way and get a dialogue going.
Because I like to hear different perspectives I watch both Fox News and the mainstream media news. I hold diversity of thought in high esteem. I am aware that this story started a couple days before your posting and the day you posted, I heard that the senator had called the female reporter and apologized. And that is as it should be. I haven’t heard any more since on Fox News.
As a woman I can certainly understand how the reporter could feel that Obama’s sweetie comment was disrespectful and dismissive. This can be an extremely sensitive issue to women, with each woman responding differently. Some women would seethe quietly, some would respond the way the reporter did, by reporting, or a wise s a s s would say loudly, “Ok, SUGAR COOKIE, but don’t forget I want an answer!” Since he is the one who said that words matter he should have been more careful with the words he selected and it is fair of people to expect that.
I personally do not think that Obama is a sexist, nor do I believe he meant to be disrespectful to the female reporter. Had she been someone he knew better, I am sure no offense would have been taken. He did successfully avoid answering her question though. He has apologized for calling her sweetie and this issue is over.
As voters it is our job to analyze each candidate. Each of the three willingly stepped into the fishbowl, making them fair game. It seems to me that Fox News gives all three a hard time on both issues and their gaffes, whereas mainstream news does tend to handle Obama more delicately as if he couldn’t take rough handling. He seems more than capable of handling the verbal blows that will come his way, and if I were he, I would be insulted by the mainstream media coddling.
Quite frankly, I don’t favor any of the three candidates. They all have their flaws. When the time comes I will vote for the person whose platform best matches my views. But that is all I will say. As a registered DTS (Declined to State) I fully endorse the secret ballot.
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Appreciate your thoughtful reply. Give me some time to respond, as I'm not as quick to creative thinking as I use to be, and you gave me a lot to deal with.
By the way, when I find myself at a restaurant and the waitress calls me "Luv" or "Sweetie" she gets an extra tip. (I know it’s dumb; must be a guy thing.) I'm probably being schmoozed, but that's alright. My wife dislikes the familiarity of it all, and I being more simple minded, eat it up. It was right that Obama apologized though.
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"Quite frankly, I don’t favor any of the three candidates. They all have their flaws. When the time comes I will vote for the person whose platform best matches my views. But that is all I will say. As a registered DTS (Declined to State) I fully endorse the secret ballot."
I'm with you there sister. As a former democrat, I vowed years ago to never vote for one, and McCain has some points I may agree with, but I will most likely leave all of the above blank on election day. All three of these characters can and will hurt the country for the worse.
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I agree that they all can hurt the country. I hate to not vote, so I am going to vote for the one that I think will do the least damage. It is a shame that politicians don’t take an oath like doctors to, “…first do no harm”. I am really looking forward to the debates after the Democrats formally select their candidate.
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TinRoof,
I think all the candidates have a distain for most reporters both male and female, and most of their news organizations. Generally speaking, I certainly do. They are only a small step up from their poor cousins the paparazzi. They’re just prettier and dress nicer, but just as crude and predatory.
It all seems to be about infotainment and “gotcha” journalism. And our female reporter is no exception. The cable news channel has to take 2 hours of real-time news, and somehow spread it out over a 24 hour day. How do you keep your viewers? You have to give them “shock and awe” to keep them on channel, lest you lose them to Oprah or the competition.
I was watching this news channel recently, and they had tape of Obama addressing an audience. While he was speaking, he reached up to his face with his hand and scratched his cheek with his middle finger. One of the newscasters blurted out that he appeared to be “flipping off” someone. They played the tape over and over. They just delighted themselves with this nonsense. As there was no news to be had, they decided to create some. Some of these so called pundits, do best to test your patients. I certainly can forgive Obama for losing his.
I like Obama. I know he can’t deliver on all he says, and I may be guilty of a little bit of wishful thinking. But certainly, he can start by ending this insane war. The latest poll says 82% of the American people want change, and I’m one of them. True, he is lacking a history, but I think experience is a little over rated; give me people with good judgment, when they know all or most of the facts. One of the perks of the Presidency is that you can surround yourself with the greatest minds in America; arrive at a consensus, and make an enlighten decision. Good American politics is all about compromise.
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LOL. I never thought of the news media as upscale paparazzi. I love it. They are prettier because they get paid so much more than the paparazzi, that they can afford to spend more on their looks. The news is all so negative. Have you heard the phrase, “If it bleeds, it leads”? There is a song by Don Henley, called "Dirty Laundry", about the news media. Here is the last stanza:
We can do “The Innuendo”
We can dance and sing
When it’s said and done we haven’t told you a thing
We all know that C r a p is King
Give us dirty laundry.
I saw the tape of Obama scratching his face with his bird finger and I agree that it was really silly of the news to present that.
I think McCain and Obama’s age is both their strength and weakness. The benefit of McCain’s age translates into life experience in combat and in Congress, (ie. connections). But one year functioning as US President ages a person in dog years. So, if McCain were seventy by the end of the four years he essentially would be a ninety-eight year old man. Obama, on the other hand, has less life experience and fewer connections in Congress. However, after four years as President his age would be about what McCain’s is now. But with youth there is a higher level of energy. I’m looking forward to the debates for the general election. They should be interesting.
Clinton and Obama must be exhausted. At least McCain can take things a little slower until there is a definitive Democrat selected.
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Sorry to jump in on this friendly little chat ... but a couple of comments are deserving of a slightly different perspective ...
McCain needs to "take things a little slower". I have spent the better part of the last two years with my aging father (whose health is declining rapidly) and lots of other senior senior citizens (and I place John McCain close to that category). When I watch McCain closely, and listen carefully to how he constructs responses to questions (or even attempts to share a prepared comment), I see lots of signs of lapses and disconnects in his thought processes. This does not translate to lapses in judgment (I think he has enough of those, as it is), but is a precursor to same. The man is getting old, and with age comes potential impairment.
As to experience, there are many kinds of experience. Just because you have had experiences does not make you automatically better suited to be a leader. Dick Cheney is about as "experienced" as you can get ... he's held several high offices in multiple administrations, dealt with powerful and important people from around the world in multiple contexts, lead and/or directed major corporations. He is, as you say, well "connected". Has that extensive "experience", or those valuable "connections", worked to our advantage over the last 7.5 years?
I watched the oil CEOs testify yesterday on CSPAN. My god, talk about "experience". And yet they sat there and lied their little fannies off, staring directly into the cameras and sharing their experiences and their connections and their view of the world ... all of which is shaped by the distant positions of power that the occupy, the world in which they work every day, and the shared values of the all the people to whom they are "connected". This includes Dick Cheney. Remember, when this administration first formulated its Top Secret energy plan, it was oil executive Cheney who met 1 time with environmental groups and 46 times with fellow oil guys (as far as we know, since he still refuses to release the names and dates and times he spent with various people) to develop a policy, directly connected to the upcoming invasion of Iraq, that secured American dependence on foreign sources of oil for another generation. And so these five guys, in their expensive suits and total disconnect with the average American citizen, sat up there and had the gall to say that it is America's oil companies that hold the key to "fixing" our energy problems.
Oil is not the solution to our dependence on oil. I don't care if we quadruple refining capacity, strip mine the entire north shore of Alaska to a depth of 10,000 feet, and fill up the entire Caribbean with wall to wall drilling platforms ... the petroleum reserves are finite and our focus must now be on finding some other source of energy to drive our machines. And yet, it is precisely these men's experiences that limit their vision, preclude other solutions, and to think outside the box.
Personally, I think there are two fundamental problems in our country (well, at least in regards to this discussion ... there are many other important fundamental problems, to be sure) that are related to "experience". The first is that an awful lot of Americans have abrogated their responsibilities as citizens ... they don't vote, they don't pay attention to the issues, they do not educate themselves and stay informed about what is going on, they do not participate, and they allow someone else to do all the work of governance for them. "That's just the government, and it's not my business" they seem to say. Incidentally, this broad brush stereotype does not apply to anyone on this list, because to go out of your way to express your opinion -- however well thought out it is -- is a participatory act. That said ... we have grown lazy, and we have failed in our number one duty as citizens to monitor (at least) and participate in our governance. This, in turn, has allowed a professional class of politicians to step in and take care of stuff "for us". How nice of them. Many are well-motivated (on both sides of the aisle). But the majority are not. They are for sale. They can be for sale because we are not watching.
And, besides being for sale, they are all "well-connected". The network is frighteningly intricate. A "good" Congressman ... whether he or she serves for just two years or serves for forty ... is guaranteed a job with one of the groups/companies/industries/lobbyists/think tanks upon retirement and then might move back into government as an appointed aid or director of an agency. There is a revolving door of "well-connected" people up there whose exclusive club is blinded to the plight of common people. In some situations, such a network works well ... it gets business done quickly and efficiently, and the business it does is for the benefit of all. That is not the case at the moment, as far as I am concerned. Our government is broken.
One of the primary attractions of Barack Obama is that he is not connected. The good old boys will try to exclude him from their inner circle ... and they might succeed. Then again, they may not. "Outsiders", "new comers" ... visionaries, if you will ... sometimes have a way of stepping around good old boy networks and leaving them in the dust. I'm willing to take a chance, because the current network has stopped fulfilling its purpose, and is not serving us well.
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Good points. The bottom line is something needs to change regarding the way business is being done in Washington and I use the word business instead of governance intentionally.
As to McCain's lapses.....unfortunately it reminds me of Reagan's searching for words every now and then when he didn't have a teleprompter or cue cards. The danger sign will be when Cindy starts whispering the ends of sentences in his ear ala Nancy.
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He was just a little fuzzy on that one.
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Hi shays. Sorry about your Dad. Outstanding piece, and I couldn't agree more. Age does make a difference, because the Presidency is a 4 year test of endurance. Maybe, 12 to 14 hour days, 7 days a week for the job to be done correctly. (Oh well, take sunday morning off for Church.) Anyway, congrats to you and Stoney for some nice thought provoking ideas.
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Chewy, you exaggerate the rigors of the presidency. Both Bush 43 and Ronald Reagan demonstrated that 14 hour days are not necessary. Bush has never missed a day's vacation, not even while warnings of an imminent terrorist attack lay on his desk. And despite always taking it easy, Reagan has been anointed a "great" president, and he has even had an airport named after him. Shoot, Reagan even proved you can suffer serious mental decline and still do a bang-up job in the White House. As long as the stars are aligned properly.
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bucksavage, I thought that was requirement number one to even run for the job. Not that I'm cynical of all national politicians.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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... and the script writers do their jobs ...
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But I thought 'associates' didn't matter. Sorry, but in Chicago politics you have to be "More connected" than in most places. Most are bought and sold. What was the attraction to a white guy like Wm Ayers? Political (hard Left) connections plain and simple. What was the attraction of Rev. Wrights church. It was Big...and offered local connections. Which Oprah didn't need and thought better of.
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The point being ...?