Pres Bush wants to give $1,500 to every taxpayer!
He forgets that FDR and Ike used the money to build roads and city buildings and schools. We have been living off that investment.
"Wall Street ended a painful week with another decline Friday as skittish investors unable to hold on to much optimism about the economy drew little comfort from President Bush's stimulus plan."
Why do they think that giving $1,000 to someone will
1. Save the job of someone else making over $80,000? Or,
2. Get someone to buy a $400,000 home? Or,
3. Cover the Second payment after the $1,000 is used as down payment for a car they cannot afford?
4. Keep someone from driving to Gambling Joints and come back drunk and broke?
5. Increase the efficiency of American-made goods, without increase prices?
6. Improve the education and infrastructure everywhere.
Etc.
Politicians want to buy votes for the next election and Democrats are in a bind, (a) if they vote against the "give-away" they get blame for the worsening recession
and (b) if they vote for it, they will be blamed, when it fails to work and we are driven into a deeper Recession.
Democrats and Republicans willing to "Do the Right Thing" should form a temporary coalition and use the money to give industr incentives to build all the BART extension, and the equivalent in other states, increase the subsidies for windmill farms, increase to 80% the subsidy for solar cell panels, build a freight train tunnel from Oakland and Tracy to meet the North-South train to Stockton and Bakersfield, the tunnel to carry a two-container stack and expedite the rail tunnel enlargement in the Sierra Nevada, and all containers will be carried out of the state by freight train. GE already makes a hybrid train that has a molten salt battery and is charged with an overhead trolley segment.
The power wires would be placed in the most accessible railway segments, the battery powers the train elsewhere.
Many other green and more efficient alternatives could be implemented with the planned $150 Billion. It is the gains in efficiency and the drop in salaries that gives us the opportunity to "START ALL OVER AGAIN, A LITTLE WISER" and not simply "throw money at a problem", like repuclicans used to say.
This is worse than dumb, if verges in a national suicide, I am switching out of the Republican Party.
The Democrats are not trying to destroy our economy.
By the way, the cost of the Iraq War is still about $2 Billion a week, will we have to continue paying for that, too?
MikeSar
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Both Bimbos Buy Into Banking Bailout Buffoonery
Sen.(oritas) Feinstein and Boxer both bought into the financial 'crisis' manufactured by el Presidente Bush last night by voting to approve the bailout of their buddies in banking. This was despite their phones being overloaded by the 2/3 of their constituents who disapproved of the bailout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7pNr_Pz3js
Note that not a word of the vote was presented by the CCTimes, even though it has the potential of doubling the national debt, which is ALREADY larger than the national budget. So instead of every man, woman and child in America owing over $32k, expect that figure to double.
And no, there were no provisions in the bill to increase jobs for Americans, decrease the trade deficit with China, or increase the value of the dollar. One of the Congresscritters (not from Calif) came up with the idea of making a profit from the deal and putting it into a separate locked account for Social Security payouts, but that got laughed off the floor.
So it's time to call our House representatives, who, with the exception of Stark and Lee, approved the bailout on the first go-around.
McCain, Obama,Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi, Miller -
The Best Politicians Money Can Buy
RealAmerica
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This raises a good point - why doesn't the Banking Buddies Bailout have a provision to exempt loans to illegal aliens from? We know remittances are down somewhat with the American economy going south, but remittances are still near $2 Billion dollars a month. Yes, that is the 'B' word.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=272366
McCain, Obama,Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi, Miller -
The Best Politicians Money Can Buy
RealAmerica
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For those of you naive enough to think that illegal aliens do not contribute to the source of the Banking Buddies Bailout problem, read this article and ask - where did they get the money for their house? Is it the result of illegal gains? What happens to it when they are deported? Will it be foreclosed and added to the list of 'excess' properties the taxpayers will 'buy'?
http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_10618520
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=272366
McCain, Obama,Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi, Miller -
Selling Out America's Middle Class - CHEAP!
RealAmerica
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Threat of Martial Law Made 2 Congress!
This is one of thse "how things work that you won't read in the news" articles. It mentions how el Presidente Bush and his cronies threatened to declare martial law if the bill didn't pass the House. If our Reps had any principles they would have started impeachment proceedings right after killing the bill.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5061
Oh, and yes, part of the recent Homeland Security legislation gives the President such power. And the Army unit around Washington D.C. was deployed Oct. 1. It was mentioned in an article in the Nation & World forum.
McCain, Obama, Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi, Tauscher, Miller -
Selling America To Their Corporate Keepers
RealAmerica
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$10 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT
The first casualty of the $10,000,000,000,000 National Debt is the debt clock in NYC -
http://www.contracostatimes.com/weird/ci_10671855
If you want to know how much you owe, divide 10,000,000 by 300 and multiply that by every member in your family. And good luck finding a high enough paying job now that Bush, McCain, and Obama have thrown in with the globalists.
RealAmerica
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Thank you for your letter expressing concern about Congress' recent consideration of a plan to meet our Nation's credit crisis with financial help from the Federal Government.
This is a difficult situation for which there are no perfect solutions, and I would like to share my thoughts and concerns with you. Please find attached two statements that I have given on the Senate floor detailing my reasons for supporting the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-343), which the President signed into law on October 3, 2008.
Once again, thank you for writing. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841. Best regards.
Statement of U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein
In Support of the Economic Rescue Package
October 1, 2008
"Mr. President, I rise today to support the bipartisan economic rescue legislation.
It has been said that Senators have six-year terms for a reason. And that reason is to be able to take tough votes because it's right for the nation, and take tough votes when at times they may be adverse to the beliefs of your constituency.
This today is indeed a tough vote.
I want to thank the Banking Committee, particularly its chairman, Chris Dodd, and members on both sides of the aisle for their work on this.
So let me quickly begin.
This bill is not the bill that was put forward by Secretary Paulson on September 20th. His bill was essentially a non-starter - startling in its unbridled allocation of power to one man: the Secretary of Treasury whom we know now, and to a Secretary of Treasury after January whom we do not know.
It placed this man above the law, above administrative oversight and above Congressional action and essentially gave him $700 billion to do with what he thought best.
This bill didn't fly with virtually anyone who looked at it, particularly constituents, who have called in the tens of thousands all across this land.
My office has received over 91,000 calls and emails with over 86,000 opposed. The bill before us is not Paulson's three-page proposal. Rather, it is a bipartisan effort that adds oversight, accountability, assistance to homeowners, executive compensation limits and other measures to protect taxpayers.
But there still is a lot of misinformation on this bill.
This is not a $700 billion gift for Wall Street.
Rather, the federal government will buy equity in certain assets - both good and bad - to pump liquidity into the marketplace and unfreeze credit which is increasingly freezing and unavailable.
Over time, these assets will be sold and the federal government will be the first paid back on the investment.
The belief is that by doing this the federal government will clear much of the bad debt on the books of certain strategic financial institutions, restoring stability, adding liquidity and unfreezing credit.
Recently, we have seen major U.S. institutions fail:
Bear Stearns
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
Lehman Brothers
Merrill Lynch
AIG
And, two retail banks - not investment banks:
Washington Mutual, and Wachovia
If we do nothing, more institutions will fail.
Now, you may say: what does this mean to me? I work hard, I pay my bills, I pay cash.
Here's what it will mean to you: it will be harder for most Americans to get any credit. Therefore, jobs will be lost.
And we may well face a deep recession.
California has 3.75 million small businesses with an average of 5.6 employees. That adds up to over 20 million jobs.
Some of these businesses are funded with cash, but most are funded with credit. When credit freezes, payrolls cannot be met. And when payrolls cannot be met, pink slips are sent out.
And this will happen to retailers, grocery stores, restaurants, electrical and plumbing contractors, apparel manufacturers, computer and electronics stores, and auto dealerships.
Sales at auto dealerships have fallen dramatically in the past year.
Ford sales are down 34 percent,
Chrysler sales are down 33 percent,
Toyota sales are down 29 percent, and
GM sales are down 16 percent.
The list will go on and on.
Importantly, there have now been several improvements to this bill. First, The FDIC insurance rate covering bank deposits has been increased from $100,000 to $250,000. Americans will know that their deposits are secure up to $250,000.
The legislation will provide tax relief to working families.
One example: the Alternative Minimum tax is a real problem. It was meant to apply only to 200 wealthy people, but it was never adjusted for inflation and it has crept down the income scale to the point where more than 25 million taxpayers today may well have to pay an Alternative Minimum Tax.
In California, 700,000 people paid this tax last year. But 4 million Californians will pay that tax this year unless we take action.
This bill takes that action. For one year it will prevent this tax increase.
The Congressional Budget Office has reviewed this bill and concluded that the net cost to taxpayers is "likely to be substantially less than $700 billion."
Again, these investments are first in line to be paid back.
It must be remembered that there was a great deal of criticism when the U.S. government bailed out Mexico in 1996 with $20 billion. The fact is, the money was paid back ahead of time and $600 million in profit was made.
Let me give you the following points.
This bill mandates that the government provide loan modifications for the subprime mortgages it acquires. This will help keep families in homes rather than foreclosing and putting the house on a deteriorating housing market where property values drop and homes are looted.
The bill limits executive compensation.
It provides strong oversight and accountability, including a financial stability oversight board, a five-member Congressional oversight panel, an Inspector General, and a constant presence at Treasury by the Government Accountability Office.
This is the only choice Congress can make.
One can rail against it and vote no on it, but that's not going to solve the problem. We have one chance, and one chance only, to solve the problem, and it is this bill.
I wish I could write it differently. Others wish they could write it differently, but the fact is that we are faced with this. Again, there is no question this is a tough vote.
But there's no question that this is a vote that I believe has to be made."
U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein
Floor Statement on the Economic Rescue Proposal
September 26, 2008
"Mr. President, to date I have received from Californians more than 50,000 calls and letters, the great bulk of them in opposition to any form of meeting this crisis with financial help from the Federal Government. I wanted to come to the floor to very simply state how I see this and some of the principles that I hope will be forthcoming in this draft. Before I do so, I wish to pay particular commendation to Senator Dodd, Senator Schumer, Senator Bennett, and others who have been working so hard on this issue. I have tried to keep in touch -- I am not a negotiator; I am not on the committee -- but California is the biggest State, the largest economic engine, and people are really concerned.
We face the most significant economic crisis in 75 years right now. Swift and comprehensive action is crucial to the overall health of our economy. None of us wants to be in this position, and there are no good options here. Nobody likes the idea of spending massive sums of Government money to rescue major corporations from their bad financial decisions. But no one also should be fooled into thinking this problem only belongs to the banks and that it is a good idea to let them fail. The pain felt by Wall Street one day is felt there, and then 2,3,4 weeks down the pike, it is felt on Main Street.
The turbulence in our financial sector has already resulted in thousands of layoffs in the banking and finance sectors, and that number will skyrocket if there is a full collapse. The shock waves of failure will extend far beyond the banking and finance sectors. A shrinking pool of credit would affect the home loans, credit card limits, auto loans, and insurance policies of average Americans. I am receiving calls from people who tell me they want to buy a house, but they can't get the credit or the mortgage to do so. Why? Because that market of credit is drying up more rapidly one day after the other. It would have a major impact on State and local governments which would lose tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars.
Hurricane Ike shut down refineries on the gulf coast 2 weeks ago, and now, today, people are waiting hours in lines for gasoline in the South. Similarly, the collapse of the financial sector would have severe consequences for Americans all across the economic spectrum: for the person who owns the grocery store, the laundry, the bank, the insurance company. Then, if the worst happens, layoffs. And even more than that, somebody shows up for work and finds their business has closed because the owner of that business can't get credit to buy the goods he hopes to sell that week or that month. Wages and employment rates have already fallen even as the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed. Our Nation is facing the highest unemployment rate in 5 years, at 6.1 percent. Over 605,000 jobs have been lost nationwide this year. My own State of California, a state of 38 million people, has the third highest unemployment rate in the Nation at 7.7 percent. That is 1.4 million people out of work today. One and a half million people -- that is bigger than some States. We have 1.5 million people out of work, and one-half million have had their unemployment insurance expire and have nothing today.
Congress is faced with a situation where we have to act and we have to do two things. We have to provide some reform in the system of regulation and oversight that is supposed to protect our economy. We also have to find a permanent and effective solution to keep liquidity and credit functioning so that markets can recover and make profit. The situation, I believe, is grave, and timely, prudent action is needed.
Just last night, the sixth largest bank in America -- Washington Mutual-- was seized by government regulators and most of its assets will be sold to JPMorgan Chase. This follows on the heels of bankruptcies and takeovers of Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. If nothing is done, the crisis will continue to spread and one by one the dominos will fall.
Now, this isn't just about Wall Street. Because we are this credit society, the financial troubles facing major economic institutions will ricochet throughout this Nation and affect everyone. So I believe the need for action is clear. But that doesn't mean Congress should simply be a rubberstamp for an unprecedented and unbridled program.
My constituents by the thousands have made their views clear. I believe they are responding to the original 3-page proposal by the Secretary of the Treasury. It is clear by now that that 3-page proposal is a nonstarter. It is dead on arrival and that is good. Secretary Paulson's proposal asked Congress to write a $700 billion check to an economic czar who would have been empowered to spend it without any administrative oversight, legal requirements, or legislative review. Decisions made by the Treasury Secretary would be nonreviewable by any court or agency, and the fate of our entire economy would be committed to the sole discretion of one man alone -- the man we know today, and the man whom we don't know after January.
Additionally, the lack of governance or oversight in this plan was matched by the lack of a requirement for regular reports to Congress. This proposal stipulated that the economic czar, newly created, would report to Congress after the first three months with reports once every 6 months after that. This was untenable. Six months is an eternity when you are spending billions a week. The Treasury Secretary asked Congress to approve this massive program without delay or interference. It is hard to think of any other time in our history when Congress has been asked for so much money and so much power to be concentrated in the hands of one person. It is a nonstarter.
Yesterday, shortly before we met for the Democratic Policy Committee lunch, we were told there had been a bipartisan agreement on principles of a possible solution, and many of us rejoiced. We know that our Members, both Republican and Democrat, have been working hard to try to produce something that was positive. Then, all of a sudden, it changed. One Presidential candidate parachuted into town which proved to be enormously destructive to the process. Now, negotiations are back on the table, and as I say, we have just received a draft bill of certain principles.
I would like to outline quickly those principles that I think are important. First is a phase-in. No one wants to put $700 billion immediately at the discretion of one person or even a group of a very few people, no matter how bright, how skilled, how informed they might be on banking or finance principles. The funding should come in phases and Congress should have the opportunity to make its voice heard if the program isn't working or needs to be adjusted.
The second point: Oversight, accountability, and governance. The Treasury Secretary should not and must not have unbridled authority to determine winners and losers, essentially choosing which struggling financial institution will survive and which will not. The original plan placed all authority in the hands of this one man, and this is why I say it was DOA -- dead on arrival -- at the Congress. We must assure that controls are in place to watch taxpayer dollars and make sure they are well-spent fixing the problem, and that oversight by a governance committee and the Banking Committees are strong, and that they give the best opportunity for the American people to recover their investment and, yes, even eventually make a profit from that investment. That can be done and it has been done in the past.
I believe that frequent reporting to Congress is critical. Transparency, sunlight on this, is critical. So Congress should receive regular, timely briefings, perhaps weekly for the first quarter, on a program of this magnitude. A proposal should mandate frequent reporting and the public should be ensured of transparency to the maximum extent possible.
I also believe that within the first quarter -- and this, to me, is key -- a comprehensive legislative proposal for reform must be put forward. We must reform those speculative practices that impact price function of markets. We must deal with the unregulated practices that have furthered this crisis. Look. I represent a State that was cost $40 billion in the Enron episode during 1999 and 2000 by speculation, by manipulation, and by fraud. There still is inadequate regulation of energy commodities sold on the futures market. And that is just one point in all of this. We must prevent these things from happening. The only way to do it is to improve the transparency of all markets. No hidden deals. Swaps, in my view, should be ended. The London loophole should be ended.
We have to outline rules for increasing regulation of the mortgage-backed securities market, along with comprehensive oversight of the mortgage industry and lending practices for both prime and subprime lending.
Senator Martinez of Florida and I had a part in the earlier housing bill, which included our legislation entitled the SAFE Mortgage Licensing Act. We found that the market was rife with fraud. We found there was one company that hired hairdressers and others who sold mortgages in their spare time. We found there were unscrupulous mortgage brokers out there unlicensed, preying upon people, walking off with tens of thousands of dollars of cash. This has to end. It has to be controlled. It has to be regulated.
So I believe the crisis of 2008 stems from the failure of Federal regulators to rein in this Wild West mentality of those Wall Street executives who led those firms and who thought that nothing was out of bounds. Every quick scheme was worth the time, and worth a try. Congress cannot ignore this as the root cause of the crisis. It was inherent in the subprime marketplace, and it has now spread to the prime mortgage marketplace.
It is also critical that accurate assessments of the value of these illiquid mortgage-related assets be performed to limit the taxpayers' exposure to risk and structure purchases to ensure the greatest possible return on investment.
Taxpayer money must be shielded at all costs from risk to the greatest extent possible.
Reciprocity is not a bad concept if you can carry it out. The Government must not simply act as a repository for risky investments that have gone bad. An economic rescue effort that serves taxpayers well must allow them to benefit from the potential profits of rescued entities. So a model -- and it may well be in these new principles -- must be developed to ensure the taxpayers are not only the first paid back but have an opportunity to share in future profits through warrants and/or stocks.
As to executive compensation limits, simply put, Californians are frosted by the absence of controls on executive compensation. Virtually all of the 50,000 phone calls and letters mentioned this one way or another. There must be limits. I am told that the reason the Treasury Secretary does not want limits on executive compensation is because he believes that an executive then will not bring his company in to partake in any program that is set up. Here is my response to that: We can put that executive on his boat, take that boat out in the ocean, and set it on fire. If that is how he feels, that is what should happen, or his company doesn't come in. But to say that the Federal Government is going to be responsible for tens of millions of dollars of executive salaries, golden parachutes, whether they are a matter of contract right or not, is not acceptable to the average person whose taxpayer dollars are used in this bailout. That is just fact.
The one proposal that was made by one of the Presidential candidates that I agree with is that there should be a limit of $400,000 on executive compensation. If they don't like it, too bad, don't participate in the program. As I have talked with people on Wall Street and otherwise, they don't believe it is true that an executive, if his pay is tailored down, will not bring a company in that needs help. I hope that is true. I believe there should be precise limits set on executive pay.
Finally, as to tangible benefits for Main Street in the form of mortgage relief, there have been more than 500,000 foreclosures in my home State of California so far this year. In the second quarter of this year, foreclosures were up 300 percent over the second quarter of 2007. More than 800,000 are predicted before this year is over.
I have a city in California where one out of every 25 homes is in foreclosure. This is new housing in subdivisions. As you look at it, you will see garage doors kicked in. You will see houses vandalized. You will see the grass and grounds dry. You will see the street sprinkled with "For Sale" signs, and nobody buys because the market has become so depressed.
This crisis has roots in the subprime housing boom that went bust, and it would be unconscionable for us to simply bailout Wall Street while leaving these homeowners to fend for themselves.
Everything I have been told, and I have talked to people in this business, here is what they tell me: It is more cost-effective to renegotiate a subprime loan and keep a family in a house than it is to foreclose and run the risks of what happens to that home on a depressed market as credit is drying up, as vandals loot it, as landscaping dries up, as more homes in the area become foreclosed upon; the way to go is to renegotiate these mortgages with the exiting homeowner wherever possible. I feel very strongly that should be the case.
I don't know what I or any of us will do if we authorize this kind of expenditure and we find down the pike in my State that the rest of the year, 800,000 to 1 million Americans are being thrown out of their homes despite this form of rescue effort. Think of what it means, Mr. President, in your State. You vote for this, any other Senator votes for it, and these foreclosures continue to take place and individual families continue to be thrown out of their homes. It is not a tenable situation.
I hope, if anybody is listening at all, that in the negotiating team, they will make a real effort to mandate in some way that subprime foreclosures be renegotiated, that families, wherever possible, who have an ability to pay, have that ability to pay met with a renegotiated loan. I have done this now in cases with families who were taken advantage of. We called the CEO of the bank, and the bank has seen that the loan was renegotiated, in one case in Los Angeles down to 2 percent. That is better than foreclosing and running the uncertainty of the sale of the asset in a very depressed housing market.
These are my thoughts. Again, it is easy to come to the floor and give your thoughts. It is much more difficult to sit at that negotiating table.
I once again thank those Senators on both sides of the aisle who really understand the nature of this crisis -- that it isn't only Wall Street, that it does involve Main Street, and if there is a serious crash, it will hurt tens of millions of Americans, many of them in irreparable ways. So we must do what we must do, and we must do it prudently and carefully.
I yield the floor. I suggest the absence of quorum."
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Further information about my position on issues of concern to California and the Nation are available at my website http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/. You can also receive electronic e-mail updates by subscribing to my e-mail list at http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?
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I would like to make a few rejoinders in response to Sen. Feinstein's letter to constituents regarding the Banking Buddies Bailout Bill.
Her analysis that the original bill rewarded the people responsible for the problem and then gave them oversight to correct it was shared by 70% of Americans.
So the Senate was presented with a 'fixed' bill. I take issue with her statement "Over time, these assets will be sold and the federal government will be the first paid back on the investment." In the version of the bill I saw 30%+ of the profits would first go to La Raza and ACORN, which represent 'social' issues that benefit the numbers of Democrats voting. There was one Representative who suggested that the profits go into a separate 'locked' account to pay future Social Security entitlements from, but she was laughed off the floor of Congress.
She then notes that she is paid well enough to pay cash for everything, but most Americans are trained to live on credit, and instills fear of what happens when credit is not forthcoming. But she inadvertently touched on a root cause of the problem - the loss of jobs that allow Americans to create wealth. She has consistently voted to increase the presence of foreign labor through trade treaties and laws that support the invasion of illegal aliens, which has driven wages down in our low end jobs. Of course her corporate sponsors thank her for her efforts. Even today there is a push to increase the H1-b visas, which have had no oversight by the Secretary of Labor in the past 10 years.
She then points out that the AMT is given a temporary reprieve in this bill, but the question is, why did she vote against sunsetting the AMT earlier in the year? Suddenly its a good thing now, but not back then?
This is particularly choice - "It must be remembered that there was a great deal of criticism when the U.S. government bailed out Mexico in 1996 with $20 billion. The fact is, the money was paid back ahead of time and $600 million in profit was made." And for the past 10 years Mexico has received $1B A MONTH average in remittances (tax free money transfers) from legal and illegal aliens. I'll leave it for you to do the math. Don't forget to carry the loss of manufacturing jobs due to NAFTA.
And then there may be a tiger in the middle of the room, which she uncovers when she talks about 'renegotiating' the bad loans. What happens if the loan was given to an illegal alien? And what is the fiscal impact? If the problem is primarily with the number of sub-prime loans, it stands to reason that those would include most of the loans made to illegal aliens. Part of the reason loans were made to illegal aliens is that an aggressive law was passed that mandated some number of low-income home loans be made available, then lawyers like Obama sued financial instutitions, forcing them to make bad loans.
And her argument that no one saw this coming is totally bogus. Congresspersons were PAID WELL not to see this coming.
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After reading the hundreds of irrational posts from single issue people like ohso (Soso) and the so called Real America it is refreshing to read one of your well thought out comments.
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ACORN - CRA - Democrats - Obama
Here's a nice synopsis of the cause of the 'disappearance' of trillions of dollars and the underhanded tactics employed by the Democrats to set up the financial 'crisis'.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1455/pub_detail.asp
Obama was an attorney suing financial institutions on behalf of ACORN and other organizations to increase the number of substandard loans.
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What Happens When Foxes Guard The Henhouse
The Banking Buddies Bailout is coming home to roost. This article is a perspective of the stupidity of listening to the same people who got us into a mess tell us how to get out.
http://moneynews.newsmax.com/streettalk/faber_bailout_stock_crash/2008/1...
RealAmerica
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Billions to Banking Buddies in Bailout
Lou Dobbs had a few unkind words for our 'representatives' in Congress and their 'oversight' of the billions of dollars paid for bonuses for bank executives. Then the oops is brought up - the banks are banking the government cash to pay their stockholders over the next three years!!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/30/ldt.01.html
What's interesting is that even though the money isn't being used to free up credit, the economy is suddenly getting 'better'.
RealAmerica
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gas prices plummet. coincidence?
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If I were able to I would appoint you as the Secretary of the Department of Transportation and have you shepherd passage of bills to accomplish what you recommended when you started this topic.
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Time for a New Voice?
This article points out the changes to the rules that Congress made to the Banking Buddies Bailout and calls for the demise of Paulson as a primary advisor. (After all, he got us into this mess in the first place - WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???)
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1760/pub_detail.asp
RealAmerica
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he could sell one of his four multi million dollar houses. he'll save $10k a month on utility and lawn keeper expenses at the same time as doing this charity work to save the world
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Martial Law Correction
Earlier I reported that President Bush threatened martial law if the Banking Buddies Bailout Bill was not passed. It turns out that it was his Secretary of the Treasury, Henry M. Paulson, Jr., who was the source of that threat. The following article explains further ...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/paulson-was-behind-bailout-martial-law-threa...
RealAmerica
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Auto Bailout - For Brazil and China?
Remember the phrase 'Think Globally, Act Locally"? Under el Presidente Bush's regime the corporate sponsors have turned that into "Reap Globally, Rape Locally". According to sources in Brazil, $1B of any bailout given to GM will be spent to improve plants there.
<http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20081119/838/tbs-general-motors-to-invest-1-bn-in-bra.html>
<http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aUULJgE6.ly8&refer=news>
I think GM and other corporations who outsource jobs overseas should be listed as foreign corporations and not be allowed to contribute to U.S. candidates' campaigns. Add a provision that profits or losses cannot be converted to American currency for income tax purposes. Add an income tax surtax of 20, 30, and 40% for employees who make over 20, 30, and 40 times the lowest paid worker, contractor, or subcontractor (regardless of job location) involved in the manufacture of any product protected by any patent or copyright in the U.S. registry. Use the surtax to bolster the U.S. retirement insurance fund. (Inspired by W. Edwards Deming, a Freemason who revived Japan's economy after WWII)
RealAmerica
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GM = LACK OF QUALITY
I think GM should be forced to declare bankruptcy, like other companies that simply suck. The workers are all lazy. the cars are stupid, and fall apart. because of unions. unions are the devil, and are killing our country. this is the problem.
nothing should be wasted on these fools. let them not take salaries for three years if they are so confident in their product. they won't do it. maybe guys that get $10M bonuses will/can, others won't
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Banking Bailout - $400M 2 Name Stadium?!
That's right. Citi plans to use $400M of their bailout money to purchase the right to name a baseball stadium. That's even worse than the auto execs taking private jets to ask for their handouts!
http://www.americasright.com/
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Foxes in the Henhouse
Here's an article that contradicts the fear posed by Paulson and everyone else buying into the Banking Buddies Bailout, including Obama. It seems to indicate that like a magician, the first step to a successful trick is misdirection. In this case, naming the 'lack of credit' as the culprit, while hiding the real intent - hyperinflation by overprinting the money supply. Ya gotta remember this was the same device that destabilized Germany and allowed Hitler to rise to power.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2033/pub_detail.asp
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No Idea Where It's Going ...
This is disturbing enough, but when Obama adds his voice to that of Bush that we need to act so quickly that the damage is done and irreversible before we get a clue is despicable.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/09/head-oversight-panel-says-tre...
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No Idea Where It's Gone ...
So let's throw more money at our banking buddies and corporate handlers, and just trust the man who refuses to show us his birth certificate to make stricter oversight.
Looks like DC must have caught some overspray of that high altitude aerial spraying of Kool-aid ...
http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/111/senate/1/5
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Who's Laughing Now?
Dr. Ron Paul was portrayed as a joke by the MSM in the Presidential primaries. Obama promised change, yet drew his economic advisors from the same pool of advisors that put us in this economic distress. Obama expects congress to trust him, but how can results be measured of a system where its actions aren't allowed to be measured? In other words, if we don't know where the money is going and its proposed use, why do we think we will get the results we expect? We'll get the results we deserve, of course, ... that of any Ponzi scheme.
http://www.ronpaul.com/
Looks like DC must have caught some overspray of that high altitude aerial spraying of Kool-aid, so watch for Rangel to introduce more laws to disarm Americans shortly. Maybe even while DC is still in its declared 'state of emergency' and martial law ...
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Tax Dollars At Work ...
Who sez there's no accountability for funds from the Banking Buddies Bailout? Here's where $7M of it went - executive pay contributed to Obama via his inauguration expenses.
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_inuaguration/2009/01/17/172446.ht...
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to buy all the banks which are all bankrupt
of course our lame government can't run anything, all systems broken. IRS, social security, medicare all corrupt and broken yet want to add MORE responsibility to these losers???
america is full of idiots. most states are BANKRUPT now this???? fools!
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How Bigga Bailout?
How big is the Banking Buddies Bailout Boondoggle? Bigger than the cost of ... well, read it yourself and weep -
http://www.rockcreekfreepress.com/
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Presidents' Day Message
Here's an interesting link to an article about Lincoln, Kennedy, and the Federal Reserve, and banks in general. It's interesting that Lincoln's greenbacks program motivated the bankers to establish the Federal Reserve in retaliation.
http://www.trosch.org/law/fed-paper-money.html
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He Said This, He Did That ...
I found the following on another forum. But it is germane both to the election and the National Debt Debacle. Bear in mind one of his campaign promises was to allow every bill 5 days before a vote so the public could examine, reflect, and react.
Obama and his henchmen said the stimulus bill was so urgent that there was not the time to allow the Congress to read it. It had to be passed even before the 48 hours required by the Senate rules to study the bill.
So it was passed, and Obama went on a three day vacation rather than sign it into law. Now, if ever there was a blatant lie.
Before the latest pick pocket bill, ..."[T]his year's deficit is already at about $1.7 trillion -- almost $19,000 per taxpayer." --economist John Lott
This bill adds "$8,700 to the average tax bill ".
So, not counting the taxes we really will pay, the average taxpayer actually will go in the hole over $27,000 this year.
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Indentured Servitude Signing Photo-Op
I especially liked reading the comments from the kids from the school. I especially liked the protest sign found above my signature ...
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135656
http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/2009/02/18/20090218prez...
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Indentured Servitude to Support Invasion
It doesn't get more stupid than this. The recent Porkulus bill that sold our grandkids into indentured servitude included nearly a million dollars for the racist organization, La Raza. No wonder the 'Boy Wonder' in Washington was in such a hurry to run this thru Congress before they had a chance to read it.
http://iowaindependent.com/12068/king-critical-of-spending-for-pro-amnes...
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What the Globalists Think of Your Economic Misery
Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.
http://www.infowars.com/volcker-and-the-mother-of-all-finanical-crises/
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Miller On The ARRA
I just returned from George Miller's Town Hall meeting in Martinez and would like to pass on a few observations.
First, Hon. George Miller always gives a great presentation; in this case to an overflowing city chamber meeting room. Of the hour he was there approximately 40 minutes were spent on praising Obama and the talking points he wanted to make about ARRA. After that he only took live questions from the crowd and as a result, many of them were along the lines of ” … how are we going to spend the money …”. The hard questions of identifying how we got here and what to do to fix it were addressed with the argument we have to borrow money to fix it, and only the Federal government could do it. He scored big points by his assurances that the federal funds to schools would bypass raiding by the California government. And he mentioned the solar manufacturing plant in Fremont as a source of American technology and jobs and that we had given other countries an 8 year head start.
There was one oblique question about violence along our southern border by the drug cartels and George was aware of the enormity of the problems in Mexico. He knew that Phoenix has the second highest kidnapping rate while noting the number of gun shops along the southern border and avoiding the upcoming Amnesty II. At this point a small but vocal contingent of gun rights made themselves known, and found themselves greatly outnumbered in a response which drowned out the murmur about illegal ‘immigration’ that rippled through the crowd.
Overall he seemed to project that we need to return to being a consumption based economy living on credit, but maybe getting used to consuming a little less. One person did ask what would happen if China didn’t loan us money, and the response was that China can’t afford not to loan us money in order to remain a net exporter while were were expected to be a net importer and net loser in the balance of trade accounts. His one comment was that our recent turn to savings instead of credit was bad for the banks and exacerbated the problem.
I was surprised how few people there knew about the TEA (Taxed Enough Already) parties held and planned across the nation. And I would like to note that Tom Torlakson(D) and Mark DeSaulnier(D) were in the crowd. Unfortunately George was scheduled to speak shortly in Benicia so there were no conversations afterward to eavesdrop on and report.
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Isn't it strange that after 8 months no one from Congress seems to have identified the cause of the monetary meltdown yet we have a 'solution'? Watch what the Inspector General has to say about Federal Reserve actions in the past 8 months. And remember that Miller has not signed on as a sponsor to Ron Paul's bill to audit the Fed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlxBeAvsB8&feature=player_embedded
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MSNBC Endorsing Ron Paul?!
I think I found Obama's birth certificate. Watch the videos.
http://www.infowars.com/congress-to-fed-whats-in-the-bag/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlxBeAvsB8&feature=player_embedded
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Gloom And Doom
Trust, but verify ....
This article gets into the plan Obama has for us to decimate the U.S. economy in order to usher in his marxist socialist agenda. It does echo George Washington's advice - you can't borrow your way out of debt. This exposure of the mechanics of our economy, coupled with the presumptive motivations of political aggrandizement, is a worthwhile read.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1091-Ten-Things-You-Must-Do....
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Distractions From the Beltway
After reading this article my thought was that the only reason this program is being introduced is to provide emotional fodder for the 'main stream muddia' to distract Americans from the upcoming Amnesty II debacle. It provides an excellent 'state of the Treasury', or how much do you owe NOW?!
http://linder.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Newsroom.FloorStatements&Co...
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If you ask me I think that Obama was a bad desicion. I think Romney would have been a good candidate. When you look at it, Romney pulled the 2002 Olympics in Park City, UT out of bankruptcy and got them going. Budgeting and expenses are his area of expertise. If Obama sees a problem he throws money at it. "Oh no, North Korea is building bombs! Quick throw money!" Our government is severly corrupt.
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Redactions - the 'Blue Screen' of Documents?
Remember the web site that was going to allow anyone to see where the stimulus monies were going? In the proposal available due to a FOIA action 25 pages of a 69 page document were totally redacted. Another 14 pages were more than 1/2 redacted.
http://www.propublica.org/ion/stimulus/item/stimulus-transparency-watchd...
I wonder is this is so can do the equivalent of 'blue screen' special effects on the finished document? Or is this Obama's real definition of 'transparency' in government?
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Fading Federal Currency
This may interest (bad pun) you - the FDIC has approx $13B of its typical $52B remaining in its account to insure your bank deposits. Of the 30 - 70 banks underfunded or expected to fail this year, only 14 have been addressed by the Federal Reserve.
If the failed banks are not bought by remaining banks, then the FDIC is tapped within published limitations to return your money. If there are outstanding demands after that, the Fed turns to our (bankrupt) Treasury for funds. The problem there is 1) the Treasury must set interest and both parties agree (no problem, unless, say, China decides to dump its Treasury notes), and 2) a maximum of $30B may be 'loaned'. The assets insured by the FDIC exceed $8 trillion. The non-insured assets of banks are composed of mortgage instruments that have been recently de-valued and contain an undisclosed of 'toxic waste', both in home and commercial loans. And I can't see their value increasing in the event of bank failures.
So the plan is for Congress to throw an additional $300B from the TARP bill to stave off the problem. One medium-size bank failure that can't be sold will easily consume those funds. No wonder the Fed is pushing hard to have a Federal judge prevent the exposure of the names of the failing banks (acquried under the FOIA) to the public.
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ACORN Finance in Jeopardy?
What was virtually improbable a week ago, the Senate voted 83 - 7 to add an amendment to H.R.3288 (Title: Making appropriations for the Departments of Transportation, and Housing and Urban Development, and related agencies)that would cut funding to ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
The amendment will now go before Nancy Pelosi and the House of Representatives. Will they bury the amendment, turn it down, ignore it or do the right thing: Pass it by an overwhelming majority. I can't wait to see who votes against this.
Or will "the powers that be" kill the whole thing, like he/they did when Rep. John Conyers tried to investigate these crooked organization earlier this year?
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Borrow U.S. Out of Debt?
When I look into kids faces today, I see the $32,000 debt the government has already imposed on them. So now we have Congress proposing an even higher level of debt - $13,000,000,000,000. But don't worry. Congress is working behind closed doors to add taxes to the middle class as part of ObamaCare to pay for it.
(cutNpaste:) politico.com/news/stories/1009/28586.html
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America's green jobs are finally showing up ... in Europe. Funds can be used to pay European shareholders. How much dumber can this Congress get?
"Estimates that for every 1,000 megawatts of wind energy that is developed, 4,300 jobs are created: 600 for operation and maintenance of the wind farms; 700 for the installation of new turbines; and 3,000 for manufacturing."
Remember the 4 ways to create wealth? Well the 3,000 manufacturing jobs are in Europe. The service jobs are here. And ObamaCare just increased the national debt by 10%, so every grandchild, child, and adult in America now owes $35,000 instead of $32,000.
(cutNpaste:) investigativereportingworkshop.org/investigations/wind-energy-funds-going-overseas/
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...and I 'll say it again and again.
Vote out ALL of the incumbents. We don't need any more career politicians that are concerned with feathering their own nests - despite their ongoing pious cries of "serving the public."
Although there is starting to be a backlash, it's not happening quick enough - witness Garamendi's election. That only shows that there are too many voters that are willing to blame the (read all the other) politicians, yet continue to hire/elect those annointed by the Democratic party.
Whatever happened to representation??? It's time to take our country back NOW!