Posted on Wed, 11/23/2005 - 15:04 — by asoglin
What are your thoughts on today's story about the Vatican's policy on the priesthood?
Vatican to issue gay priest policy
The Vatican is ordering seminaries to bar candidates for the priesthood who "practice homosexuality," have "deeply rooted homosexual tendencies" or support "gay culture," according to a document published Tuesday by Adista, a Catholic news agency in Rome.
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Cannibal Soup For the Soul
The attack on society by those pushing the Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions of the Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex agenda is not just confined to Weimar Amerika, but is a world wide phenomenon.
In Ireland (ironically once referred to as the land of Saints & Scholars - where the 'priest' in question was shipped here from) there is Only One Catholic Seminary still in operation, the rest having been shut in response to infiltration and defilement by the Coprophile Cult of Feces Focused Homo-Anal Behaviors.
As was the case with other organizations that were infiltrated by perverts and dstrtoyed from within (the German Military, the English Public Schools...)- Homo-Anal Perverts only needed to put one of their own in a position of Power - in order to eventually corrupt the system and instill a cult of perversions by recruiting others of a similarly depraved ilk in to positions where they may then in turn prey on new initiates and younger boys.
The truly sad irony of the growing scandal in Pleasanton under Mr. Danielson is that he has already driven away many good parishioners of faith, as a direct result of his constant activism on behalf of pushing such sick hatreds and vile perversions on the congregation - including giving his 'blessing' to those who defile and degrade the most basic Teachings and Sacraments of the Church - such as Dyke Hatemongers staging sham 'wedding / commitment' farces as a means of soiling the Church to the point that it fails from its own corruption, having driven away the faithful in service of the perverted.
In a classic case of the cart before the horse, many Church 'leaders' have made 'allowances' for such Homo-Anal Restroom Romeos and Ephebophile / Chicken Hawks (such as Nambla spokesman / Homo-Anal 'priest' Paul Shanley, who preached Boy Buggery from the Pulpit) because of a "shortage" of Priests and Seminarians.
This bass ackwards thinking is condoned under the sham pretense of an ersatz 'Christian Tolerance' - when in fact Many Good Men who would make Fine Priests have been so repulsed by the Depravity Instituted by these Homo-Anal Perverts that they left the Seminary rather than be a party to such Evil.
Like a few rotten apples dropped in to a barrel of good, such depraved perverts have worked very hard to destroy the principals and vows they had publicly pledged to God and the Faithful to Uphold. In order to feed their own sick perverted desires they have tried to turn Holy Communion in to a Pander or Perish sham of mandatory Cannibal Soup for the Soul - where those who object to pandering to Homo-Anal Boy Rapists and Crapper Casanovas are fed to the new lions of the Thought Police, as an example of those who fail in 'tolerance' of the lifestyles of Homo-Anal Casanovas of the Crapper.
Who knows, if this toilet stall stallion proves adept at mau mauing the remaining parishioners in to pandering to his bathroom buggery lifestyle, he may yet become the next bishop of flushing... And plunging too no doubt.
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Click Here: Check out "ContraCostaTimes.com - Group protests Pleasanton church bringing in priest with prior arrest"
Group protests Pleasanton church bringing in priest with prior arrest - By Scott Marshall STAFF WRITER 11/11/2007
A group distributed fliers Sunday morning at a Pleasanton Catholic Church because the priest selected to lead the parish was arrested several years ago in a case involving a lewdness allegation.
The Rev. Padraig Greene takes over Jan. 1 at the Catholic Communities of Pleasanton, which includes St. Augustine Catholic Church and St. Elizabeth Seton Catholic Church.
Oakland police arrested Greene in 1999, alleging he acted lewdly in a restroom, said Joey Piscitelli, director of the Northern California chapter of Survival Network of Those Abused by Priests. Piscitelli and others visited St. Augustine on Sunday to alert parishioners, the director said Sunday.
"It's a red flag for us as a survival group," Piscitelli said. "We're also worried the bishop of Oakland would make him the top man in Pleasanton.
Greene agreed to undergo counseling in St. Louis, according to Piscitelli and the Rev. Dan Danielson, who is retiring as head of Catholic Communities of Pleasanton.
...Danielson said Sunday. "There's no minors involved. What there is is a lewd act."
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Yet more fallout from the attack on the Church by Homo-Anal Ephebophiles masquerading as 'priests' and acting as Chicken Hawk Judas...
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Convicted priest faces new abuse charge
By MIKE ROBINSON Associated Press Writer 11/03/2007
CHICAGO—A retired Jesuit priest convicted of molesting two boys was taken into custody Friday on a charge that he molested a boy he took on a trip to Switzerland and Austria seven years ago, prosecutors announced.
The Rev. Donald J. McGuire, 77, has been free on bond while appealing his conviction last year in Wisconsin that he molested two high school students in the 1960s.
McGuire was taken into custody Thursday by Wisconsin authorities who said that he failed to keep his sex offender registry updated. He was turned over to Immigration and Customs agents Friday on the new charge of traveling overseas to engage in sex with a minor.
McGuire specialized in organizing religious retreats...
The 24-page affidavit said the Jesuit order as early as 1991 placed restrictions on his contacts with minor boys and young men, but McGuire continued to travel alone with teen boys, including one who was 13 years old when the alleged abuse began in 1999. McGuire then traveled with the boy to Switzerland and Austria in 2000.
His abuse of the boy ended in 2003 when the Jesuits ordered McGuire to move out of a religious house in Evanston in 2003, the affidavit said.
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The following quotes are from Tammy Bruce
Author of the book "The Death of Right and Wrong"
On How Homosex Abuse Creates Homosex Abusers
Although regularly censored by the 'mainstream' media, author Tammy Bruce (www.Tammy Bruce ) long ago provided the essential insights in to the Catholic Church's problems with Ephebophile Chicken Hawks targeting Boys for Homosex Rape - in her book THE DEATH OF RIGHT AND WRONG:
"If the Catholic Church had been as eager to defend its principles as the Boy Scouts have been, so many lives would not have been damaged or destroyed. Frankly, even before the depth of the Catholic Church's problem became known, it was common knowledge that many gay men pursue sexual relationships with adolescent boys. Why? Based on my experience in the gay community, I believe it's due to the fact that so many gay men had their first sexual experience as an adolescent with an adult male.
That is a traumatic experience, and as long as the wound remains untreated, the victim feels compelled to continually reenact the experience so as to master it or project it on to others...
The other reason actually discussed in the community is that, because of the Aids crisis and the emergence of drug resistant strains of contagions like herpes and gonorrhea, gay men are compelled to seek new, untouched young men."
"Almost without exception, the gay men I know (and that's too many to count) have a story of some kind of sexual trauma or abuse in their childhood - molestation by a parent or an authority figure, or seduction as an adolescent at the hands of an adult.
The gay community must face the truth and see sexual molestation of an adolescent for the abuse it is, instead of the 'coming of age' experience many regard it as being." Tammy Bruce.
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Indulgent Forgiveness of Perversion
All but one Seminary in Ireland have closed and that Emerald Aisle of 'saints & scholars' has to import Priests - yet they have enough spare to send to Us Homosex Perverts who will Haunt our PUBLIC TOILETS like Rest Room Romeos.
Mr. Danielson was quoted as saying that No Minors (Meaning BOYS - Already the Target of Homosex Ephebophile 'Chicken Hawks') were involved in these Sick Perverted Public Acts.... Yet How he can maintain this position about Who Did and Did Not attempt to use the PUBLIC TOILET when Mr. Greene was Holding Court as chief Stallion of the Stalls, and How Young they were, Is impossible to fathom unless Mr. Danielson also claims that he was acting as a lookout at the time and no Boys needed to use the facilities while his Protege was Acting Lewdley.
Forgiveness is Fine - but that is not the Political Agenda at work here. Elevating someone to a position of Public Trust & Leadership after LEWD PUBLIC ACTS IN THE LOO - Makes a Mockery of the Concept, and is in fact simply Pandering to Homosex Perversions!
One of the Darkest times of the Catholic Church, and a direct cause of the Protestant Movement, was the practice of "Selling Indulgences". No matter what heinous act was committed, it could be Forgiven in return for a Donation to the Bull of Indulgence, and you could literally Pay for your Sins in coins of the day.
While the practice of 'indulgences' remains, the new coin required is Political Pandering to the Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions or the Radical Gender Feminist / Homosex agenda - and those willing to donate their conscience to the cause of pimping children to such sickness will now be labeled 'tolerant' by Homosex Activists masquerading as 'priests' and acting as Judas.
Further - the notion that this is Mr.Greene's First Offense is simply ludicrous - one does not engage in such LEWD PUBLIC ACTS as a one time whim, but as a part of a Deep Personal / Mental Flaw that knowingly seeks to Harm Others with their INTENTIONAL PUBLIC ACTS. There needs to be further questioning as to Mr.Greene's behaviors in Ireland prior to his arrival, and whether he was transferred as a result of 'troubles'...
Mr. Greene should be Forgiven, provided he is truly repentant - and not using the Faith of Others as a tool to fool the gullible - Which unfortunately Seems To Be the Case Up Until Others Exposed Him. Mr. Greene may indeed even be able to contribute and lead a pious and productive life on a continuing Church Salary - but placing a Known Homosex Pervert as Pastor in a Parish - at the same time one Diocese after another goes Bankrupt to Pay for the Attack on the Church and its Boys by Homosex Perverts, is an Insult and an Outrage to the Faithful and Disgrace to the Whole Church.
Mr. Danielson has shown his true political colors as a Radical Gender Feminist 'Homosex Political Activist, who would rather see the entire body defiled than allow anyone to escape his Cannibal Soup ' communion' of Pandering to Homosex Hatreds and Perversions. Shame on them all.
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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• Posted by: Theresa Aimar: The police report reads: March 2, 1999 . I (Officer) was assigned to work in plain clothes at the North Oakland Sports Center. I entered the boysroom and observed the suspect (Greene) standing facing the urinal. Mr. Greene was masterbating with his left hand. Mr Greens penis was erect and he was not urinating. I asked Greene if he had come there for an "afternoon delight" He said he was just relaxing.(still masterbating) Mr. Greene asked what I was doing there for and turned to face me he continued to masterbate. I responded "whatever comes up." He replied "whatever goes up must come down." I then took Mr. Greene into custody. Father Greene was jailed for 2 days. Should this Man be a Pastor? Hold power over children? Why did they withhold this information? • Posted by: Theresa Aimar
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Diocese reiterates support for priest
# PLEASANTON: Critics want to block clergyman with lewdness arrest from leading parish; officials defend selection
By Meera Pal STAFF WRITER 11/17/2007
A small but emotional group gathered outside the Catholic Diocese of Oakland headquarters Friday to question why a priest with a public lewdness arrest was chosen to oversee the Pleasanton parish...
But Joey Piscitelli and other members of the Survival Network of Those Abused by Priests say Greene's past behavior should be considered a warning sign. "This man committed a deviant sex act and wanted to be seen,"
Piscitelli handed out copies of Greene's police and court records ent two days in custody. The Alameda County district attorney later dismissed the charges against him after Greene agreed to six months of counseling.
Pleasanton resident Theresa Aimar, one of several parishioners who have renounced the Catholic Church entirely after Greene's past was made public, cautioned that the diocese should err on the side of caution and appoint a pastor with a clean slate -- someone without a history of sexual misconduct in public.
Piscitelli disagrees and plans to be at St. Elizabeth Seton Church on Sunday to hand out copies of the police and court records. "The bishop of Oakland is trying to force parishioners of Pleasanton to accept a lewd priest,"
Edited 11/17/2007 11:19 am ET by Ohso1
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Speaking of Rest Room Romeos - like the new 'Pastor' of the P-Town Potties...
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IVA:
Sen. Larry Craig's arrest in Minneapolis for soliciting gay sex in an airport restroom drew the attention of the nation to what homosexuals call "the tea-room trade," the widely spread practice in the gay community of engaging in anonymous sexual encounters in public places.
Anonymous homosexual trysts have gotten to be such a problem in Jensen Beach, Florida, that officials there are looking to install solar-powered "talking" video cameras along local beaches.
Sheriffs arrested six men at two county beaches in July for exposure or solicitation, and just a week ago a local teacher was charged with exposing himself to an undercover deputy in public park.
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FRC:
The Rouge Baron
Recently FRC, working with the Louisiana Family Forum, was involved in successful efforts to defeat a pro-homosexual resolution in my home town of Baton Rouge, called One Baton Rouge. As the measure was going down in defeat the mayor, Kip Holden, lashed out in anger at area pastors who had opposed the measure.
According to news reports and council meeting transcripts, Mayor Kip Holden accused Pastor Dennis Eenigenburg of the Chapel on the Campus of "not speaking as Godly person," saying Pastor Eenigenburg "is someone who has hatred in his heart." (You can read about the Mayor's comments at the link below.)
Increasingly government officials are trying to intimidate into silence pastors who speak out against the advancement of the homosexual agenda. When we asked folks in Baton Rouge to contact the Mayor and ask him to apologize to the pastors of the city, his office was overwhelmed with calls--and to our surprise, the Mayor is insisting he never said anything about Pastor Eenigenburg.
Whenever something like this happens we, as religious people, need to come together as a community. So I ask you to call the Mayor at (225) 389-3100 to let him know he needs to stop trying to dodge the facts and start apologizing.
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Peekaboo Bathroom Buggery
At present it is unknown if Pleasanton's own 'Pastor Paddy the Pervert' was caught on film playing Restroom Romeo in this particular PUBLIC TOILET - but rest assured he will not only be forgiven by the Mary Ruthless Mau Mau Artistes of this world - but Exhalted for his Public Example to others of 'Christian Tolerance' - for Sick Homosex Perversions of course...
Ohso
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Gay sex sting under investigation
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/view.php?id=6173
Covert Operation Winchester used hidden cameras to detect whether men were engaging in sexual activity in the men's toilets at Harrison Drive, New Brighton...
Covert Operation Winchester used hidden cameras to detect whether men were engaging in sexual activity in the men's toilets at Harrison Drive, New Brighton.
More than 120 men were filmed carrying out sexual acts in the urinal area during the three-month operation...
Bathroom Buggery 'Lifestyle'
But, according to the Wirral Globe the operation has been criticised by the gay community...
The toilets came under surveillance after complaints from the public that men were meeting for anonymous gay sex...
Cllr Adrian Jones, Wirral's spokesman on the Merseyside Police Authority added: "All decent people will be grateful that the abuse of a public lavatory, which should be safe for children and adults to use without stumbling into this sort of activity, has been stopped...
"I don't think many Wirral people will have anything but contempt for those who abuse public conveniences for sex, whatever their orientation."
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Temperance Permit
Note That the Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex / Drag Hag Thought Police who will determine what language critical of their Cannibal Soup agenda is Naughty or Nice (or to use their sanitized euphemisms: Temperate & Polite")...
...And thus the limits of Free Speech for All others, who otherwise face Seven Years in Jail for Ungood Talk...
Will be determined (using as yet unknown means) by the Radical Mau Mau Artistes of the "Gay Pressure Group Stonewall" - appropriately named after the Post Judy Garland Funeral Drag Queen Riots at the stonewall bar (and the 'ladies' can too) in NY.
No need to worry about their impartiality, right - old sods?
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Gay hate law 'threat to Christian free speech'
By Steve Doughty http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?
in_article_id=496871&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow
Church leaders yesterday warned that new gay hate laws threaten to
stop Christians speaking of their beliefs. Both Church of England and Roman Catholic bishops backed a call for any new law to protect freedom of speech.
Christians should be allowed to hold open discussions about sexuality
and they must be permitted to criticise homosexual behaviour and
lifestyles, they said... churches called for a clause which would remove any threat of prosecution from those who condemn or satirise gay beliefs and practices - the same right that was guaranteed to critics of religion when Labour brought in rules that make it a crime to stir up hatred on religious grounds...
Straw's law would make it a crime to stir up hatred on grounds of
sexual orientation. It would carry a maximum penalty of seven years
in jail for those found guilty - a longer sentence than the five
years handed down to a typical rapist.
If the gay hate law goes through, the bishops said, "People holding
firm opinions on sexuality will generally be reluctant to risk the
emotional and financial costs of being challenged by a neighbour or
colleague and being investigated by the police.
"We are not encouraged by some examples of over-zealous action by the police under current legislation against Christians who have publicly
expressed traditional views on sexuality," the bishops said.
Leaders of the gay pressure group Stonewall, which has been highly influential in drawing up the new law, have said that it will permit religious leaders to continue to express their views on homosexuality
provided they are "temperate" and "polite".
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Splitsville
Now that the Episcopal Schism is in full bloom, with a Church in CA leading the way out from under the Political 'Pander or Perish' dogma enforced by the Radical Minority of the Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex Power Structure now claiming to control its assets...
The attack against them by said Radical Homosex Power Structure, particularly in Weimar Kalifornia, will be swift and merciless. In addition to bankrupting the leaders and supporters, the Radical Homosex agenda will also be to take over the Schools and Churches - and either convert them to Political Indoctrination Centers, or sell them for $$$ to fund political indoctrination.
Eventually - the example of Hyper Zealous Thought Policing now found in Canada & 'great' England, will be used to supplant the Former First Amendment in Weimar Amerika (it is already a myth in the peoples republik of Weimar Kalifornia, Der Arnold - Uber Kommandant, Inc.) in favor of mandatory 'tolerance' training.
Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
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Pro-Gay Legislation Fuels Concerns Over England's Anti-Faith Trend
By Ethan Cole, Christian Post Reporter 9/9/07 - http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070909/29237_Pro-Gay_Legislation_Fuels_Concerns_Over_England%27s_Anti-Faith_Trend.htm>
The Church of England has expressed fear over a newly proposed law that could allow homosexuals to sue the church if they felt discriminated against by religious authorities. Under the proposal, a gay individual could sue the church if he heard a sermon that condemned homosexuality. The law is meant to protect homosexuals from hostile or humiliating "environments" as part of a revision of discrimination legislations.
"To deny Christians (and followers of other faiths which take a similar view) such a right (to preach on the sin of homosexuality) would amount to an unjustified interference with the right to manifest religious belief," read a statement by the Church of England, according to the Telegraph.
The Church of England in its official statement to the government regarding the bill has said the proposed harassment laws are unnecessary. The Church also said that Christian schools and believers should retain the right to teach on homosexuality according to the school's religious beliefs. The Lawyers' Christian Fellowship in England further warned that an unrepentant, practicing homosexual could sue the church if it refused him membership under the proposed law.
"We have been concerned at what has seemed in some recent debates to be trend towards regarding religion and belief as deserving of a lesser priority in discrimination legislation than the other strands where the law seeks to bring protection," expressed the Church. "This does not amount to, or achieve, equal respect for different religious
groups and those of no religion; rather it amounts to an enforced secularism that fails to respect religious belief at all," according to the Telegraph...
England's anti-discriminatory proposal is similar to the hate crimes debate raging in the United States...
In Europe and Canada, pastors have already been charged and even threatened with imprisonment for preaching against homosexuality under these countries' hate crimes laws.
"This kind of head-on collision occurs when anti-discrimination laws include sexual orientation and behavioral issues," commented Dr. R. Albert Mohler Jr., the president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and one of America's pre-eminent evangelical leaders, in response to England's proposed discriminatory law.
. "This is where the inevitable collision occurs – when religious liberty is sacrificed on the altar of political correctness. This is what the Church of England sees when it speaks of 'a trend towards regarding
religion and belief as deserving of a lesser priority in discrimination legislation,'" he added.
"Religious liberty is meaningless if the pulpit is not free to preach the Word of God, if churches cannot determine their own membership, and if Christians are silenced in their Christian testimony."
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Mass Resistance:
Has it come to this? Episcopal Bishop of New Hampshire to "marry" another man. Tells audience, "I always wanted to be a June bride."
Mitt Romney's leading role in the crisis that created same-sex "marriage" in Massachusetts starting to come under scrutiny across the country. ==="I always wanted to be a June bride," gushed Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson of New Hampshire recently at a speech in Florida. Robinson is going to be legally joined to his long-time partner next June.
How can one even comment on something like this?
Read more on our MassResistance blog.
http://massresistance.blogspot.com/2007/12/bishop-gene-robinson-i-always-wanted-to.html
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Just two days after the infamous Nov. 18, 2003 Goodridge court decision on same-sex marriage, conservative talk-show host Hugh Hewitt wrote a scathing article in The Weekly Standard reflecting the belief of much of America's conservative movement -- that Gov. Mitt Romney should stand up tall and "Just Say No."
Just Say "No"
Calling Governor Romney and the elected representatives of Massachusetts.
by Hugh Hewitt
11/20/2003
"JOHN MARSHALL has made his decision," Andrew Jackson is said to have remarked in the aftermath of a Supreme Court decision he disliked, "now let him enforce it."
Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney would be well advised to ponder that line long and hard over the Thanksgiving holidays. . .Romney should seriously consider indifference. ...The decision is illegitimate, and the appropriate response will be to ignore it. Some law professors will shudder (though two well know in the blogosphere, Eugene Volokh and Glenn Reynolds did not when the subject was kicked around on my program Tuesday; Volokh in fact thinks such inter-branch confrontations are useful in the life of constitutional republics). Editorial writers will shout. Senator Kennedy may even brand Romney a Neanderthal, as he did Justices Brown, Owen, and Judge Kuhl earlier this month. . .
Read entire article here
It's now hard to believe those words were written at all. Romney did just the opposite. The Court had "ordered" the Legislature to "take appropriate action" within six months, but they gave no directive at all to the governor. However, when the six months passed and the Legislature did nothing, Gov. Romney completely caved in. He went ahead and (1) had bogus "Party A and Party B" marriage licenses printed, (2) ordered Justices of the Peace and Town Clerks to perform same-sex "marriages" when asked or be fired, and (3) set up training sessions for Justices of the Peace and Town Clerks on how to perform same-sex marriages. Romney got it started, and it hasn't stopped since.
MassResistance report on How Mitt Romney started same-sex "marriage" in Massachusetts
Hitting the airwaves
Over the last several weeks this subject seems to have caught fire. We have been on radio stations across America talking about this and educating people about the issue. People are eager to hear about this. And the more they hear, the more they want to know.
For example, on Nov. 6, our own John Haskins did a blockbuster interview on the Sandy Rios show, on WYLL, which covers the Chicago area and surrounding states. John has done a massive amount of legal research on Romney's implementation of same-sex "marriage" in Massachusetts and has worked with several legal scholars on it. He has a wealth of knowledge on that subject. This is a particularly powerful interview - you can click the link below to listen:
Listen to the show -- JOHN HASKINS INTERVIEW on Sandy Riow Show -- here.
Download the podcast
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U.S. House Passes Resolution Supporting Christmas and Christianity (LC)
Yesterday, we informed you that the U.S. House was considering a resolution recognizing the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith. We are pleased to report that the Resolution passed by a vote of 732 to 9. Nine members voted against the resolution, ten refused to support it by voting "present," and 40 others members did not vote.
The nine members who voted against the Christmas Resolution were all Democrats: Ackerman (NY), Clarke (NY), DeGette (CO), Hastings (FL), Lee (CA), McDermott (WA), Scott (VA), Stark (CA) and Woolsey (CA). The 10 who answered “present†without entering a vote were also Democrats except one: Conyers (MI), Frank (MA), Holt (NJ), Payne (NJ), Pence (Republican from IN), Schakowsky (PA), Schwartz (PA), Wasserman-Schultz (FL), Welch (VT) and Yarmuth (KY).
To find our how your representative voted on the Christmas Resolution, see the roll call vote which is posted online at http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1143.xml.
Amazingly, all but two of the representatives who answered "present" or voted against the Christmas resolution voted in favor of a resolution recognizing Ramadan, which passed by a 376-0 vote in October! You can see the vote on Ramadan which is posted online at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll928.xml.
Below is some of the Ramadan resolution.
Notice that the Christmas Resolution uses similar language. It is astonishing that those who supported the Ramadan Resolution would vote against the Christmas Resolution!
You can read the entire text of the Christmas Resolution on our web site in PDF format.
Check the lists to see how your representative voted, then let them know that you support Christmas and they should, too. If they voted against Christmas and in favor of Ramadan, respectfully point out their hypocricy.
Find your representative's contact information online at: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Read our News Release on this vote at www.LC.org.
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IVA:
Today's data point in answering the question as to whether America was founded as a Christian nation:
"Each member of the legislature, before he takes his seat, shall make and subscribe the following declaration:
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Priest sued over seminar 'curing' homosexuality
By Mike Elkin in Madrid 12/28/07
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2232653,00.html
A Spanish clergyman is to be investigated after complaints that he is holding seminars which aim to "rehabilitate homosexuals".
Protestant minister Marcos Zapata, head of an organisation running youth centres for troubled children in Galicia, prompted the row after reports surfaced of a recent seminar he led entitled "How to Raise Heterosexual Children".
According to a journalist who attended the seminar, Zapata likened homosexuality to alcoholism and called it an illness, but said healing was possible through family therapy...
Yesterday the Galician regional government said it would investigate Zapata...
Spain's gay and lesbian groups are planning legal action...
Esposibleelcambio.org ("Change is possible") is run by Grupo Juan Pablo II, a lay group in Cadiz in southern Spain.
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Bishop left in dark over secret gay service
By Dominic Kennedy 12/31/07 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3111435.ece
The Archbishop of Canterbury kept a special communion service for gays so secret that he failed to tell the Bishop of London it was happening in his diocese, The Times has learnt.
Dr Rowan Williams inflamed the row over homosexuality which is tearing apart the Anglican Church when it was reported that he had agreed to hold a eucharist for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender clergy.
But even his critics have been taken aback to learn that he did so by making an incursion on to the patch of the Bishop of London, the Right Rev Richard Chartres, without giving notice or seeking permission.
Dr Williams now risks being seen as, at best, discourteous and at worst, in breach of canon law, for sneaking into a church near the Tower of London under the Bishop's nose....
Such security surrounded the communion service for priests, monks and nuns organised by the Clergy Consultation support group that the
guestlist was shredded by Lambeth Palace.
The location was changed after the original venue, the liberal St Peter's Church in Eaton Square, was "outed" on a hostile website.
Dr Williams's covert methods are a gift to opponents threatening schism at next year's Lambeth Conference.
The Times emailed the previous Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey, a more conservative primate, to ask if such a thing would have happened in his day.
The 72-year-old replied promptly by Blackberry: "I am sure that Rowan was acting for the very best of reasons viz. to show that he cares for all and wishes to hold minorities in the church. What would I have done?
I would not have agreed to a private Eucharist; after all, the Eucharist, by definition, is open to all Christians...
The Bishop of London now has the drastic option of reporting Dr Williams to the Archbishop of York who could order a tribunal hearing with ultimate powers of removal from office. Nobody is suggesting that the Bishop would exercise these rights but those familiar with him say he would be disappointed to have been kept in the dark.
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Tens of thousands rally in Spain in defense of traditional family
The Associated Press The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com 12/30/07
MADRID, Spain: Tens of thousands of people in predominantly Roman Catholic Spain rallied Sunday in defense of the traditional family in a country where the government has legalized gay marriage and facilitated divorce.
The crowd roared when Pope Benedict XVI appeared on giant TV screens in a live hookup from St. Peter's Square in Vatican City, praising the crowd.
The pope, speaking during the traditional noon Sunday Angelus prayer, said the family is "based on the unbreakable union of man and woman and represents the privileged environment where human life is welcomed and protected from the beginning to its natural end."
"It is worthwhile to work for the family and marriage because it is worthwhile to work for the human being, the most precious being created by God," the pope said, speaking in Spanish. He urged parents to bring up their children with respect for the moral values that give dignity to human life.
It was Benedict's latest appeal for the traditional family, a central theme of his papacy. The Vatican has campaigned against proposals to legalize gay marriage, and denounced Prime Minister Jose Luis rodriguez Zapatero's government for passing a law recognizing gay marriage.
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Foster couple challenges homosexuality laws By Andrew Pierce 23/02/2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news
Lawyers are to seek a judicial review of a decision by social workers to ban a Christian couple from fostering young children because they refused to sign up to new gay equality laws...
The action against Labour-controlled Derby City Council is likely to become a test case for the Government's Sexual Orientation Regulations. Social workers rejected an application by Eunice and Owen Johns, who have four grown-up children, to be foster parents because they refused to agree to tell any children in their care that homosexual lifestyles were acceptable.
The couple, who have been married for 39 years, had applied to offer weekend respite care for foster children under the age of 10.
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Secret plan to avoid church gay split By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent 23/02/2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new
The Archbishop of Canterbury is backing secret plans to create a "parallel" Church for American conservatives to avert fresh splits over homosexuality...
According to insiders, Dr Williams has given his blessing to the plans to create an en[bleep]e for up to 20 conservative American bishops that would insulate them from their liberal colleagues. The scheme would allow them to remain technically within the Episcopal Church but under the care of like-minded archbishops from abroad...
Dr Williams, whose leadership has been under growing attack from conservatives, has been privately encouraging such a development for a number of years. So far, however, he has failed to broker a deal with Bishop Jefferts Schori, a feminist who backed the 2003 consecration of Gene Robinson as Anglicanism's first openly gay bishop.
With several hundred of the world's 880 bishops expected to boycott the Lambeth Conference in Canterbury, a schism is looking inevitable unless Dr Williams can paper over the cracks.
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How much does it cost to have someone dress up as the spiritual leader of your choice and abuse you? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Pastor in Microsoft 'gay rights' share bid
By Toby Harnden in Redmond, Washington
6/11/2007
A black conservative Christian pastor of an evangelical megachurch has vowed to take over Microsoft by packing it with new shareholders who will vote against the company's policy of championing gay rights.
The Reverend Ken Hutcherson, a former Dallas Cowboys linebacker, heads the Antioch Bible Church in Redmond, home of Microsoft...
An advocate of a "biblical stance" against divorce and homosexuality, Mr Hutcherson, 55, is asking millions of evangelical activists, as well as Orthodox Jewish and other allies, to buy up Microsoft shares and demand a return to traditional values.
Microsoft, he declares, will be just the first company targeted in an escalation of the culture wars between evangelicals and corporate America.
"There are 256 Fortune 500 companies alone pouring millions upon millions of dollars into pushing the homosexual agenda," he told The Daily Telegraph.
His ambitious plan signals a new offensive in his two-year battle with Microsoft after it abandoned its neutral stance on gay rights legislation, which he says he helped secretly negotiate before
outraged gay employees intervened.
"They tried to turn their policy into state policy, making their policy something I had to submit to. And my playbook [the bible] tells me you don't submit to sin."...
Mr Hutcherson, who grew up in segregated Alabama and played football to "hurt whites" before he became a Christian, believes homosexuality is a sin rather than a biological phenomenon.
He rejects comparisons between the black civil rights movement and calls for gay rights...
"I've never seen an ex-black. Michael Jackson couldn't even achieve that. But I've seen ex-gays. We minister to them every day. We talk to them about how to get out of that sin."
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Vanity Search
Run a Search on the CCTimes / MediaNews / AP Wirehead / Frisco Crock websites using the term "Priest" - and the majority of stories you will find are about Sex Abuse (albeit with the Homosex Ephebophile angle played down), crime and betrayal of the Faithful...
Positive Images of Priests or Christian Churches in the Old Media are about as difficult to find as Opposing Viewpoints to their Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex 'Pander or Perish' ideology...
The following is just another example of the truth told by Tammy Bruce in her book "The Death of Right and Wrong"... Ohso
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Large settlement reached in priest sexual abuse cases
11/18/2007 - By MARY PEMBERTON Associated Press Writer
ANCHORAGE, Alaska—A Roman Catholic religious order has agreed to pay $50 million to dozens of Alaska Natives who were victims of sexual abuse by Jesuit priests, their lawyer said Sunday...
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The following quotes are from Tammy Bruce -Author of the book "The Death of Right and Wrong" On How Homosex Abuse Creates Homosex Abusers
Although regularly censored by the 'mainstream' media, author Tammy Bruce (www.Tammy Bruce ) long ago provided the essential insights in to the Catholic Church's problems with Ephebophile Chicken Hawks targeting Boys for Homosex Rape - in her book THE DEATH OF RIGHT AND WRONG:
"If the Catholic Church had been as eager to defend its principles as the Boy Scouts have been, so many lives would not have been damaged or destroyed. Frankly, even before the depth of the Catholic Church's problem became known, it was common knowledge that many gay men pursue sexual relationships with adolescent boys. Why? Based on my experience in the gay community, I believe it's due to the fact that so many gay men had their first sexual experience as an adolescent with an adult male.
That is a traumatic experience, and as long as the wound remains untreated, the victim feels compelled to continually reenact the experience so as to master it or project it on to others...
The other reason actually discussed in the community is that, because of the Aids crisis and the emergence of drug resistant strains of contagions like herpes and gonorrhea, gay men are compelled to seek new, untouched young men."
"Almost without exception, the gay men I know (and that's too many to count) have a story of some kind of sexual trauma or abuse in their childhood - molestation by a parent or an authority figure, or seduction as an adolescent at the hands of an adult.
The gay community must face the truth and see sexual molestation of an adolescent for the abuse it is, instead of the 'coming of age' experience many regard it as being." Tammy Bruce.
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God's Grace And The Homosexual Next Doorn (LC)
Author Alan Chambers (a former homosexual) and four of his colleagues at Exodus International offer practical and biblical insights on how both individuals and churches can become a haven for homosexuals seeking freedom from same-sex attraction.
In this comprehensive guide to helping homosexuals, readers will learn about the roots of homosexuality, God's radical grace for sexual sinners, how to reach youth both within and outside the church, dealing with fear and ignorance in the church, leading homosexuals to Christ, mentoring homosexuals in the church,
three degrees of homosexuality: militant, moderate or repentant, what not to do in reaching out to homosexuals and much more about this often perplexing subject.
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Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, warns American church
leaders to curb their pro-gay agenda
Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent 12/15/07 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3054277.ece
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams,... spelt out in his long-awaited Advent Letter to the Church's 38 Primates and other leaders, could lead to The Episcopal Church of the US and the Anglican Church of Canada forfeiting their
seats at the top tables of the Anglican Church if they do not curtail
their liberal pro-gay agenda...
Arguing that the debates about sexuality were "symptoms" of Anglican
confusion, Dr Williams said that it was far too easy to make the
debate a stand-off between those who were "for" and those who
were "against" homosexual people in the church.
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Catholic Activist "Banned for life" From Publicly Criticising Homosexuality
Saskatchewan Court Upholds Human Rights Commission Ruling
By Hilary White REGINA, Saskatchewan, December 13, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) -
The Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission's decision to impose a "lifetime" ban on a local Catholic's freedom to publicly criticise homosexuality, was upheld this week in its entirety by Saskatchewan Court of Queens Bench.
Bill Whatcott, a licensed practical nurse who lives in Saskatchewan, is a campaigner against the homosexual political movement that is sweeping the Canadian legal system. In 2006, the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission (SHRC) ordered Whatcott to pay $17,500 Cn. to four complainants who complained that their "feelings" and "self-respect" were "injured" by Whatcott's pamphlets denouncing the "gay lifestyle" as immoral and dangerous.
Whatcott responded to the decision, "This fine is for telling the truth [that] homosexual sodomites can change their behaviour and be set free from their sin and depravity through the forgiveness of sins and shed blood of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ."
He added, "Shame on the Saskatchewan Court of Queens Bench for pandering to homosexual activism and ignoring the truth."
In its 2005-2006 Annual Report, the Commission noted that Whatcott was "ordered to discontinue distributing any materials that promote hatred against people because of their sexual orientation."
The tribunal held that "preventing the distribution of such materials was a reasonable limit on Whatcott's right to freedom of religion and expression as guaranteed by section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms".
Whatcott appealed the decision to the Court of Queen's Bench and received the news on Tuesday that the court would not overturn the HRC's ruling.
Whatcott himself says he was fined for his pamphlets that used "verbatim" a text from a classified personal advertisement in a local homosexual publication that ran, "Man seeking boys.... age not so relevant".
Canadians concerned about what they see as the erosion of basic democratic freedoms are calling for a stop to the extra-judicial powers of the Human Rights Commissions in which the usual rules for due process of law do not apply.
In connection to a similar Human Rights Commission case currently levelled by the Canadian Islamic Congress against the popular conservative political author Mark Steyn, Ottawa Citizen columnist David Warren wrote this week that freedom of speech is "the most fundamental right," and that the Human Rights Tribunals represent a significant threat to democratic freedoms.
Freedom of speech, he wrote, is "the queen bee in the hive, as it were. Every other freedom depends on this freedom. Take it away, and we no longer have a free country".
"Like so much in civil society, we put up with it because the alternative is worse, and we'd rather cope with free speech, than with the free intimidation that results from its suppression."
Warren voiced the concerns of many in Canada who believe the Human Rights Commissions' powers and zeal for the far left ideological position makes them an ideal vehicle for the suppression of basic democratic freedoms.
Warren blasted the Human Rights Tribunals, calling them "kangaroo courts" and "star chambers" with "quasi-legal powers that should be offensive to the citizens of any free country... in which the defendant's right to due process is withdrawn."
"They reach judgements on the basis of no fixed law. Moreover, 'the process is the punishment' in these star chambers -- for simply by agreeing to hear a case, they tie up the defendant in bureaucracy and paperwork, and bleed him for the cost of lawyers, while the person who brings the complaint, however frivolous, stands to lose nothing."
Conservatives in Canada are supporting a petition, addressed to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, to abolish or at least curtail the powers of the Human Rights Commissions.
Sign the petition to stop the Human Rights Commissions:
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/a-free-dominion-against-...
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CRI:
The Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin based in Fresno took a bold stand earlier this month, proving that when it comes to Truth, there can be no compromises.
At its annual convention the diocese voted 173-22 to leave the Episcopal Church, becoming the first full Anglican diocese to secede from the denomination over the issue of homosexuality and the Bible.
The diocese, which has more than 9,000 members, has chosen to realign itself with the more like-minded Anglican Province of Southern Cone, based in South America.
The disagreement over homosexuality and the Bible can be traced back to 2003 when the Episcopal Church first consecrated an openly homosexual bishop.
"We have leadership in the Episcopal Church that has drastically and radically changed directions," said Reverend Van McCalister, a diocesan spokesman. "They have pulled the rug out from under us. They've started teaching something very different, something very new and novel, and it's impossible for us to follow a leadership that has so drastically reinvented itself."
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** Note the Standard Old Media - Pro Homosex Spin... the Bishops are against 'happy people' - at least according to the radical activists pushing the sick hatreds and vile perversions of the real homosex agenda... Like the Ole Media Propagandists at the Times / MediaNews.
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Anti-gay bishops on crusade to Jerusalem
By Barney Zwartz http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/01/03/1198949986488
The outspoken Anglican Archbishop of Sydney, Peter Jensen, is galvanising opposition to homosexuality in the church in preparation for an unofficial meeting of conservative bishops in Jerusalem in June.
As rifts in the worldwide Anglican Church threaten to become rupture, Dr Jensen said American Anglicans had become missionaries for homosexuality in defiance of the Bible and Anglican teaching...
Earlier in a statement Dr Jensen said: "Some American Anglicans are as committed to their new sexual ethics as to the Gospel itself, and they intend to act as missionaries for this faith, wishing to persuade the rest of us."... "The problems posed by the American church are not going to remain in America."
Dr Jensen told the Herald the worldwide church had changed
irreversibly. Since the Americans had defied the world's bishops in 1998 by endorsing same-sex unions and consecrating a gay bishop, Lambeth had lost its authority, he said.
The 1998 Lambeth conference endorsed the traditional view that sexual relationships are reserved for marriage between a man and a woman...
Many conservative bishops have declined to attend Lambeth this year because the American bishops have been invited.
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Spanish Socialism's Anti-Social Assault on Speech
When well over a million Spaniards marched in defense of marriage and family December 30, it seems they had good reason. Skyrocketing abortion rates, a new same-sex "marriage" law, and school indoctrination programs are all contributing to the growing outrage against Spain's socialist regime.
Under President Jose Rodriguez Zapatero, the attacks against traditional marriage and family have become increasingly intense. Unfortunately, a new investigation of clergyman Marcos Zapata means that demonstrators can add another grievance to their list--religious intolerance.
In a seminar sponsored by the Evangelical Council of Aragon, Zapata delivered a speech titled, "How to Raise Heterosexual Children."
Among other things, he urged fathers to "reinforce their sons' masculinity" and show them affection. "If you don't [hug your kids]," he warned, "perhaps another man will."
When the agency of Equality and Welfare learned of the talk, it moved quickly to investigate "any type of proselytism or homophobic attitude" on Zapata's part.
It is utterly ridiculous that this government agency would punish a minister for proselytizing.
After all, isn't that the sole purpose of the pastorate? Zapata, who faces disciplinary action, says that while he believes the church should love and embrace homosexuals, there is an "environmental aspect" of the behavior that parents can and should influence.
However, it's abundantly clear that the only influence socialist Spain cares to exert is its ability to unjustly censor and intimidate religious leaders.
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Ambassador complains to Vatican about election statement.. PinkNews
Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos revealed on Saturday that
Ambassador Francisco Vazquez expressed his "perplexity and surprise" at statement issued last week by the Spanish Bishop's Conference.
"Catholics may support and join different parties it is also true
that not all (electoral) programmes are equally compatible with the
faith and Christian demands in life," the bishops said. This was widely interpreted as an instruction to the faithful not to
vote for parties that support gay marriage or negotiate with Basque
terrorists.
The Zapatero government introduced full gay marriage in Spain in 2005 and the main opposition party, Partido Popular, has said it does not intend to overturn it. However, some PP politicians have hinted they may "return" to the issue...
The rift between church and government in Spain shows no signs of
healing. Last month Deputy Prime Minister Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega said that the Church could no longer impose its morality on the country.
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Fury over new gay hate laws which 'threaten free speech'
By Simon Caldwell 1/7/08 www.dailymail.co.uk/A coalition of MPs is hoping to halt a gay hate law which will stop Christians pronouncing their beliefs about marriage and family life. The Tory, Labour and Lib-Dem MPs are demanding an amendment be introduced to the