Posted on Sun, 03/09/2008 - 09:31 — by backrow
Evidently someone in authority REALLY wants and NEEDS UCLA to be the unfettered champ , #1 Dance seed, of the league. HORRIFIC calls...not one...but consecutive calls....at game conclusions....on BACK to BACK nights lift Ucla to "wins". Bear fans may have approved when Stanford got raped by a non-call at 7 seconds as their guy scores (but no foul call) and compounded at the buzzer w/ a saving foul call by refs against Collison (admitted later) to gain overtime. Youse Bears were okay with that. So the next night against CAL, UCLA is gifted with two MORE STINKING calls at the wire to save the Bruins AGAIN . HELLO ???....this has WAY past coincidence. When Congress gets thru sucking TV facetime on baseball hearings, they should investigate the Bruins.
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There's no coincidence here, that's what happens when you're an Elite basketball program like UCLA. They get all the calls their way. These calls were not only bad calls, they were blatantly biased calls as well. Theses Refs are the ones that should be investigated.
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No reason to investigate ... Bay Area fans ought to just send them a big Thank You card. Both Cal and Stanford are second-tier, at best (well ... Cal is quite a bit below that, but that's a different story), and whining wine-sippers only serve to irritate true sports fans. Those type of people don't just live in southern California, either ... it includes people who saw equally bad calls at different stages of the game called against UCLA. It's called karma, and anyone who knows sports knows it's true ... calls at the end of a close game come under greater scrutiny, but you can't forget the ones that happened earlier that had as much influence as those at the end.
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... actually, it was the spirit of John Wooden working magic in Westwood. Neither Stanford nor Cal have a monkey's chance at the North Pole of winning much of anything ... get over it. If you can't hold a two-digit lead in the final minutes, just pack your bags and go home with tail between legs.
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Invading the Cal forum, because no one is in the news forum anymore?
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Though I am a Pac-10 fan, and support the Golden Bears in any non-conference game in any sport. I have sat in Strawberry Canyon and at Stanford Stadium for Big Games (my grandpa was an alum of Stanford, and I was always the contrary member of the family).
So it goes ... the point I made about bad calls at other points in the game is a true one, however. No one ever remembers them, though.
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Cal men got trounced by UCLA today in the Pacific Life Pac-10 tourney. Granted we had a few quality wins and came close in a lot of games, but we were ranked ninth only ahead of pathetic Oregon State, so we just were not good this year. I guess we were fooled into thinking we would be great because Hardin was staying another year and he and Anderson would put us in the top tier, but that was bad thinking. There's no question Anderson is really special, but other teams seemed to have a lot of Anderson-like stars, and we only had one. We are young though, but other teams have fabulous freshman and sophs too, so I don't think you can use that for an excuse anymore in big time college basketball.
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Now I hear the refs cost AZ State their game against USC today when they made a bad call at the end. They say it might cost AZ State a trip to the NCAA's. What's wrong with the refs and why does it seem the Southern Cal teams are always benefitting from the calls?
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There was a lot of contact under the basket on the call you are questioning. It was, indeed, a questionable call ... in slo-mo, it is pretty clear the Arizona St player did not push too hard on the back of the USC player, but there was a lot of body contact as three guys went up for that rebound. The call could have gone either way, and had it happened somewhere in the middle of the second half, there would have been only minor complaint (maybe), and if at the beginning of the game, then no complaint and it would have set a tone for how the game was going to be called. I watched the entire game, and the refs were pretty consistent.
---> Personally, when it gets down to the final minute of a close game in a tournament between two teams whose ability to move on to the next tournament is at stake (as it was here), I think the refs should lighten up and call only obvious fouls. Arizona State may just lose a bid to the Bid Dance because of that call. Well ... maybe. The game would have been tied, and who knows how the overtime would have gone. But at least they would have had a chance to win the game by playing, instead of losing on a potentially bad call.
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Cal got lucky in their 2 point win over the Lobos tonight when they called a foul with 3.4 seconds that looked pretty questionable on the replay. Boykin made both free throws and that was the difference.
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What goes around comes around.
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I really expected UCLA to slip up because they had some close games and flirted with losing some games if not for questionable calls, but the NCAA selection committee got it right and all four number 1 seeds are in the final 4. The last two days of the tournament are going to be great. I've changed my pick several times as I don't see a clear-cut winner like when Florida dominated.
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Put your money on Memphis ... they only lost once all year, and that was by 2 points to Tennessee (out early, but a fine team, nevertheless). Memphis also played a pretty tough non-conference schedule, and they are experienced. My heart is with the Bruins, and I picked them to win it all with my heart. They may. But they are too reliant on Collason ... when he has a bad game (or fouls are called too closely and he finds himself in foul trouble), so does UCLA. North Carolina is overrated. Kansas is not.
In other words, you're right ... this is going to be one of the most competitive and best Final Four's in a long time!
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Granted, Cal's record this year isn't good, but this has nothing to do with allowing a game-winning basket that was CLEARLY from behind and over the backboard; nor allowing the molestation just before. If the refs are going to act this way, why not just tell us ahead of time who they bet on, or which team has paid them the most money, & we can save ourselves a bunch of time by not playing the game.
Basketball is an entertaining game when the fix isn't in. Otherwise, it's just a waste of time.